WikiLeaks and Assange lawyer decides not to represent Snowden, claims his “whereabouts are unknown
Source: The Next Web. com
Baltasar Garzón, the lawyer who represents both WikiLeaks and Julian Assange, has released a new statement claiming that his firm, ILOCAD, has decided not to represent PRISM whistleblower Edward Snowden. Most interestingly, however, is Garzóns claim that Snowdens whereabouts are unknown....
Writing on the official WikiLeaks site, Garzón referenced a recent draft resolution by the Committee Legal Affairs and Human Rights of the Council of Europe Parliamentary Assembly [SIC], which he indicated was written in both WikiLeaks and Snowdens interest. Beyond that, it appears WikiLeaks is looking to distance itself from Snowden entirely at least in the public eye....
Read more: http://thenextweb.com/insider/2013/06/26/wikileaks-and-assange-lawyer-decides-not-to-represent-snowden-claims-his-whereabouts-are-unknown/
According to a google search, this news story above was posted 9 hours ago:
WikiLeaks and Assange lawyer decides not to represent Snowden, claims his whereabouts are unknown
The Next Web - by Harrison Weber - 9 hours ago
Baltasar Garzón, the lawyer who represents both WikiLeaks and Julian Assange, has released a new statement claiming that his firm, ILOCAD, ...
anobserver2
(836 posts)Very creepy, this "whereabouts unknown"
But, I would guess: accurate.
However, not a time one would want a lawyer to announce: don't call me.
anobserver2
(836 posts)WikiLeaks @wikileaks 8h
WikiLeaks has acquired a US attorney for Mr. Snowden who will be named in due course.
WikiLeaks WikiLeaksVerified account @wikileaks
https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/349951460819210241
WikiLeaks has acquired a US attorney for Mr. Snowden who will be named in due course.
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anobserver2
(836 posts)WikiLeaks @wikileaks 7h
WikiLeaks is still assisting Edward Snowden's asylum process. The comments by Baltasar Garzon only reflect preventing a legal conflict.
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I am wondering if Edward Snowden is even alive. Does Wikileaks have any comment on that? Have they talked to Snowden lately?
OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)Reads, clumsily:
"Too much liability."
treestar
(82,383 posts)in representing Wikileaks and Snowden. It's like saying I represented a plaintiff in an auto accident case, now I can't represent any other plaintiffs.
OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)It's one thing to represent his defense. Quite another to help him avoid prosecution.
Probably not the biggest risk an attorney can take, but likely not worth it - especially when there might be limited bennies involved.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Talk about 15 minutes of fame. But likely he'd be one of those pain in the ass clients.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)Never heard of it.
anobserver2
(836 posts)WSJ is reporting the same info.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324328204578569540564167724.html
anobserver2
(836 posts)From a google search:
WikiLeaks Lawyer Turns Down Request to Defend Snowden - WSJ ...
online.wsj.com/.../SB10001424127887324328204578569540564167724....
9 hours ago The Spanish lawyer Baltasar Garzóon said he would continue to serve as senior legal counsel for Julian Assange.
From WSJ:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324328204578569540564167724.html
EUROPE NEWS
June 26, 2013, 12:19 p.m. ET
WikiLeaks Lawyer Turns Down Request to Defend Snowden
Baltasar Garzón, a former judge in Spain, gave no reason for his decision....
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)Snowden Is In One Of Three States:
1) Already rendered and in custody,
2) Safely tucked away in a secluded place, or
3) No Longer among the living.
anobserver2
(836 posts)Agree with your assessment.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)Or if he'd been grabbed by Russian or the US and taken into custody?
Earlier, Wikileaks said Harrison was with Snowden at all times. When did that change?
cynzke
(1,254 posts)With the US. Its temporary. Snowden is a hot potato for Russia and they want him out before he get too much attention there by their citizens.
anobserver2
(836 posts)From wikileaks:
http://wikileaks.org/Further-Statement-From-Baltasar.html
Further Statement From Baltasar Garzón
Wednesday June 26, 15:00 BST
Madrid, 25 June 2013
PRESS RELEASE FOR MEDIA AND OTHER INTERESTED PARTIES
This serves to state that the Law firm ILOCAD has decided not to represent Mr. Snowden, whose whereabouts are unknown. We continue to represent Mr. Assange and WikiLeaks as senior legal counsel in the defence of the fundamental right to freedom of information and expression. In this vein, we are satisfied with the recently approved draft resolution by the Committee Legal Affairs and Human Rights of the Council of Europe Parliamentary Assembly. It states that those who disclose criminal acts in the public interest should be protected from retaliation and persecution from those who commit them.
Baltasar Garzón
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)rendering their services unnecessary?
hack89
(39,171 posts)Wikileaks would be fools to get dragged into that mess.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)accompanying Snowden in Russia at every moment.
They didn't get dragged into the mess -- they jumped in with both feet. But now they seem to be having second thoughts.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)Snowden, like Manning, is beyond the help of mere lawyers. Assange did not break the law in his role releasing U.S. state secrets, and a good lawyer is essential to keeping him out of jail. On the other hand, not much can be done legally for other two except, perhaps, mitigation.
struggle4progress
(118,309 posts)leveymg
(36,418 posts)particularly where (as I believe is the case with Manning) the defense raises international human right law as an issue.
struggle4progress
(118,309 posts)anobserver2
(836 posts)...and no one has said they have talked with Snowden lately. Very odd; very very odd and very very creepy, this whole thing.
Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)Odd, yes.
anobserver2
(836 posts)I find that creepy: The lawyer saying Snowden's "whereabouts are unknown."
It sounds like he's saying: I can't contact the guy, so, I can't represent him.
It would not have been so creepy if he said, "I spoke to Snowden and he decided to get an American lawyer [as per Wikileaks announcement,]."
The "whereabouts unknown" plus the "I'm no longer his lawyer" announcement, are, together, creepy, in my book.
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OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)The Traitor Snowden, is too hot to handle, even for Assange.
Hilarious!
Narkos
(1,185 posts)Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)It's easier to take seriously if you state it as speculation than as fact.
Narkos
(1,185 posts)on the part of the Snowden fan club on this board, that I am going to actually take the liberty to assume that Russian intelligence is going to try to pry everything they can out of our little friend. Crazy, isn't it?
anobserver2
(836 posts)Re: "I am going to actually take the liberty to assume that Russian intelligence is going to try to pry everything they can'
Yeah, I think you are exactly correct. Does anyone really believe he is just sitting around in an airport in Moscow, doing absolutely nothing
but twiddling his thumbs, waiting to hear from a country? I don't think so.
Narkos
(1,185 posts)and is just trying to do what is right.
Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)Just keep making shit up, hunh?
Narkos
(1,185 posts)Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)Making shit up without a clue.
Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)Or what the FSB is doing.
Narkos
(1,185 posts)The evil US surveillance apparatus, no ?
Anything you else you want to make up in your head?
I think we're good. I'll just make sure posts are up to your standards next time. Thanks.
Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)I didn't say it wasn't o.k. to speculate, now did I?
Narkos
(1,185 posts)leveymg
(36,418 posts)So, what does that prove about Snowden - except that intel agencies will always try to exploit any opportunity to gain information. Duh and Da.
Narkos
(1,185 posts)leveymg
(36,418 posts)for better or worse. That comment proves you have no grasp of the situation, and not much substance to contribute on the topic.
Narkos
(1,185 posts)leveymg
(36,418 posts)You know who you sound like, don't you?
Narkos
(1,185 posts)leveymg
(36,418 posts)He may be a commodity but can anyone believe where he is now was part of his plan? I don't, so its not unreasonable for some people to think he is an "idiot" considering the current news. Tomorrow things may change.
marble falls
(57,124 posts)railsback
(1,881 posts)blackspade
(10,056 posts)cynzke
(1,254 posts)On this thread. Both are issues and we are certainly capable of discussing both. Sometimes at the SAME time.
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anobserver2
(836 posts)Interesting Reuters article here:
Russia spies may be chatting with 'tasty morsel' Snowden
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/25/us-usa-security-snowden-russia-idUSBRE95O1DG20130625
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This whole thing just reads like a spy novel to me, except that: it's happening in real time.
okaawhatever
(9,462 posts)programs the u.s. is running. They will come up with all kinds of fun stuff they claim the government is doing to breed distrust. These countries are first class operators in that kind of work.
I'll bet Snowden is in hiding somewhere. We can't very well blame a country for harboring him if we can't prove they're harboring him can we? Russia wants us to turn over their guy, the one we put in jail on weapons charges, Ecuador wants a trade deal, Cuba wants their guys, and Venezuela wants toilet paper. LOL.
Historic NY
(37,451 posts)is it me or are people suddenly disowning any connection to him...really wikileaks..aren't you the same ganogy that can't get a sunbathing event for your leader.
fasttense
(17,301 posts)Despite the pro-spy-on-me crowd here on DU, many of us know Snowden is a hero and we wish him safety from the whistle blower hunt and kill brigade.
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)Last weekend Garzon was all blustery about representing Snowden.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)he was supposedly in the Moscow airport and supposedly with a representative of Wiki.
Then Wiki said only that he was in a safe place with same Wiki rep. I suspected then he was whisked out of the airport and into deeper hiding.
Because Wiki's lawyer says he doesn't know where Snowden is doe not mean that other people from Wiki don't know where he is. The rep he was with hasn't piped up and said he's no longer with her or that she lost him. Nor has Wiki piped up and mentioned that their rep has gone missing.
The fact is that anybody and everybody could be lying, or withholding info, at this point. If he's been taken into Russian custody without actually disclosing where he's being held to Putin, than he can legitimately say he doesn't know where he is. Likewise with everybody else in this drama.
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)An alternate spelling for wikileaks is "Honey pot"