Nanny cam beating suspect often went into other apartments uninvited: neighbors

[Omaha Steve]

Source: NY Daily News

By Alfred Ng , Denis Slattery AND Corinne Lestch

The hulking monster arrested Friday for breaking into a New Jersey home and assaulting a mom in plain sight of her 3-year-old daughter was an unwelcome guest in other residences, neighbors said Saturday.

Nancy Hernandez, who lives next door to Shawn Custis’ girlfriend and her daughters at Dyckman Houses in the New York City neighborhod of Inwood, said the alleged attacker twice walked into her apartment, believing no one was home.

“I walked out into my living room, and he was just standing there,” Hernandez told The News. “I was scared. Why would he just walk into my home like that? He gave me the creeps.”

The second time he let himself inside, Hernandez’s husband was in the shower.

FULL story and photos at link.


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/alleged-nanny-cam-beater-entered-homes-neighbors-article-1.1386099

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[AnotherMcIntosh]

1. Let's hope that this comes to the attention of Gov Christie and the New Jersey legislature

which some anti-gun advocates are trying to stampede in the direction of reducing gun ownership by law abiding citizens in their own homes.

In the District of Columbia, before the 2008 Heller decision, the law even prohibited an off-duty law enforcement officer from owning and possessing a firearm in his home.

Likewise in Chicago, even after the Heller decision, the law, with certain exceptions, generally prohibited law-abiding citizens from owning firearms in their own homes for self defense. Even when an elderly veteran used a rifle for self-defense in his home, the first instinct of some Chicago officials was to prosecute him.

If anything, this particular situation shows why homeowners should have to choice to either own or not own firearms in their own homes.

[brentspeak]

2. Got lies with that?

There is no proposed NJ legislation of any kind which would prohibit gun ownership in NJ resident's homes. God knows where you pulled that one from.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

4. Did you have to misrepresent what was said? My words speak for themselves and don't require

any interpretation (and misinterpretation) by you.

No one other than you referred to

"proposed NJ legislation" ... "which would prohibit gun ownership in NJ resident's homes" (emphasis added)

Here's what I actually said:

"some anti-gun advocates are trying to stampede in the direction of reducing gun ownership by law abiding citizens in their own homes" (emphasis added)

Go find somebody else's statements to misrepresent.

[brentspeak]

7. Ok, tell us what NJ gun laws

are "reducing" or will "reduce" law-abiding NJ resident home gun ownership.

If you can't tell us, maybe you should find some other website to propagandize your tin-foil gun-nuttery.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

8. Do your own homework. If you haven't noticed, you aren't the DU hall monitor.

[Le Taz Hot]

12. You made the claim.

It's up to you to back it up.

[onehandle]

3. Well, you earned your NRA allowance today. nt

[NYC_SKP]

15. That sure sounds like you're accusing the OP of being an NRA shill.

This is never helpful.

[Omaha Steve]

5. So you want the daughter to pull the trigger?

Mom was on the floor with the suspect on top of her. The daughter was the only free hand to aim and pull the trigger. Is that really what you want?

[AnotherMcIntosh]

6. My words speak for themselves. So why did you make up this bullshit?

I expressly said:

Let's hope that this comes to the attention of Gov Christie and the New Jersey legislature
which some anti-gun advocates are trying to stampede in the direction of reducing gun ownership by law abiding citizens in their own homes.

In the District of Columbia, before the 2008 Heller decision, the law even prohibited an off-duty law enforcement officer from owning and possessing a firearm in his home.

Likewise in Chicago, even after the Heller decision, the law, with certain exceptions, generally prohibited law-abiding citizens from owning firearms in their own homes for self defense. Even when an elderly veteran used a rifle for self-defense in his home, the first instinct of some Chicago officials was to prosecute him.

If anything, this particular situation shows why homeowners should have to choice to either own or not own firearms in their own homes.

No one other than you said anything about a desire for the daughter to pull the trigger. You just made that up.

No one other than you said anything about "The daughter was the only free hand to aim and pull the trigger."

Quite frankly, it's a stupid argument. Misstating what others have said is exactly what I expect from those who want to deprive homeowners of a choice to either or or not own firearms in their own homes for self-defense.

How's that working out for you? If you haven't noticed, the AWB expired and it was not renewed. Because Dianne Feinstein and others overreached, her Bill was not passed. What you are now left with is misstating what other posters have said.

[Omaha Steve]

9. Made up?

A gun in every home isn't an answer until owners take responsibility for safe handling and storage.

Watch the video. Mom didn't have time to get her safely stored (out of her daughters reach with a trigger lock perhaps) firearm. And with the suspect on top of her, if she had a firearm in her hand would her aim be good enough to be sure she would not shoot her daughter instead by accident???

My point is she didn't have time to use a firearm if she had one in the house. Maybe a defensive CS gas would have been better. It's not lethal to anybody that gets sprayed, unlike a firearm. It is painful.

I do own firearms in my home. One rifle, one revolver, and one old collectible over and under derringer. They are stored in a safe manner. I don't have to worry about grandkids finding one and killing somebody. Maybe your not up on current news? There are several dead kids a week. New Orleans last Saturday. Mom was charged. Oregon in LBN this week. It goes on and on.

As far as cops with firearms at home, in Omaha a teenager took his dad's service weapon and killed an assistant principle: Omaha School Shooting: Millard South High School Assistant Principal Dr. Vicki Kaspar Dies: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20027583-504083.html


And I don't use the type of language you do because the DU is family friendly! I've used a few once or twice. But I have a few words in mind for you.

[flt rsk]

14. No CS gas needed.

A can of wasp spray will do better. The wasp spray can shoots a stream 15ft to 20ft and doesn't have a lot of mist to come back at the sprayer. The person being sprayed is blinded until the spray can be neutralized.

[Omaha Steve]

17. Excellent idea

Thanks for the post.

My wife does carry a small CS when she is out of the house. When Kerry was running for President, just before the convention we went to see him. Secret Service took it away. Our youngest was upset because as long as she could remember, Marta always had it. We figured we wouldn't see it again. All items like that were on a table when we left. So she still has it. As old as it is, it probably isn't operative. I offered to get her a new one several times. She just wants this one as is.

Even has ultraviolet dye to mark the suspect laying on the ground doubled over in pain.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

19. No one other than you referred to "A gun in every home". I referred to a CHOICE.

My words:

"If anything, this particular situation shows why homeowners should have to choice to either own or not own firearms in their own homes."

[toby jo]

10. Why promote gun ownership if pepper spray would work?

Neighbor should have called cops after first incident, guy's got a problem.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

20. The only thing being promoted, if at all, is CHOICE.

My words:

If anything, this particular situation shows why homeowners should have to choice to either own or not own firearms in their own homes.

Tell me, what's wrong with CHOICE?

[Omaha Steve]

23. My mistake

I posted right after waking up before coffee. (Sun Jun 30, 2013, 05:53 AM) I misunderstood your intent on choice. Public apology. I've only made a few of these in my years here on the DU.

OS

[AnotherMcIntosh]

24. Thanks.

[RVN VET]

11. This story is NOT about gun control

Repeat: not about gun control. Given the non-connection, NRA guy might as well have said "I hope Governor Christi realizes the dangers of nuclear disarmament," because there are peaceniks in Trenton who are advocating such a dangerous move. Or, maybe, "I hope the Governor understands there are people in Trenton who smoke marijuana and that there are bank robberies in Trenton."


The problem with your statement -- and the reason it is being attacked -- is not that there is no basis in truth in what you are saying, and it is not that your statement is not worthy of argument. It's that it is totally and obviously irrelevant to the issue at hand.

Sheeesh!

[Omaha Steve]

13. "some anti-gun advocates are trying to stampede in the direction of reducing gun ownership"

Sounds to me like it went straight to gun control.

I don't feel I'm being attacked. I didn't care for his language.

I also feel his attitude of a gun in every home forgets there are so many irresponsible owners. I simply pointed out there was no time to react in the situation when he implied a gun would have stopped the suspect.

Yes the neighbors should have called after the first incident. Why didn't they lock the door AFTER that I have no idea.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

21. You are the only one referring to a "gun in every home". I referred to CHOICE.

[NYC_SKP]

16. K/R. People need to know the kinds of things that can happen to ANYONE...

And I hope people are ready to respond-- with some form of self-defense.

Because, especially if you aren't in a "good" neighborhood, the police aren't likely to be able to help you.

You gotta defend yourself.

[surrealAmerican]

22. I'm not sure I'm following you line of reasoning here.

What exactly do you think the nanny should have had at her disposal here?

Is this about martial arts training, because, surely, any weapon she might have had would have been too much of a hazard to have around a young child?

Is it realistic to train everybody in martial arts? Wouldn't that training also have been taught to potential attackers as well as potential victims in that case?

[easychoice]

18. Well, this works for home defense and it is immediately effective.

The big plus is that it doesn't have all the legal hassles of discharging a firearm.
Enjoy!

[Beacool]

25. Here lies the problem:

"The 42-year-old brute, whose lengthy criminal record dates back to the early 1990s"

Why was this guy out on the streets? How long of a record does a criminal has to have before they let him rot for life?

He was only out a short time and look what he did. This guy will never change.

[geek tragedy]

26. Why is this trogolodyte still in society with a "lengthy criminal record?"

This can't be his first violent assault.

Hopefully, this one gets him put in a cage for the rest of his life.

[RebelOne]

28. What is important is that he was arrested and wll be off the streets for a long time. n/t

[kelliekat44]

27. Throw away the key!!! He deserves the highest penalty allowed. nt