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Poll_Blind

(23,864 posts)
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 07:59 AM Jun 2013

EU demands explanation after reports of NSA spying

Source: CNN

(CNN) -- European officials reacted with fury Sunday after a report that the U.S. National Security Agency spied on EU offices.

The European Union warned that if the report is accurate, it will have tremendous repercussions.


"I am deeply worried and shocked about the allegations," European Parliament President Martin Schulz said in a statement. "If the allegations prove to be true, it would be an extremely serious matter which will have a severe impact on EU-US relations. On behalf of the European Parliament, I demand full clarification and require further information speedily from the U.S. authorities with regard to these allegations."

German Justice Minister Sabine Leutheusser-Schnarrenberger "said if the accusations were true it was reminiscent of the Cold War," ministry spokesman Anders Mertzlufft said, adding that the minister "has asked for an immediate explanation from the United States."

The German newspaper Der Spiegel reported that "the U.S. placed bugs in the EU representation in Washington and infiltrated its computer network. Cyberattacks were also perpetrated against Brussels in New York and Washington."

--SNIP--

European Union spokeswoman Marlene Holzner, in a e-mail to CNN, said, "We have immediately been in contact with the U.S. authorities in Washington DC and in Brussels and have confronted them with the press reports. They have told us they are checking on the accuracy of the information released yesterday and will come back to us."

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/30/world/europe/eu-nsa/



See that bit I underlined? Check this out:
The White House and Pentagon Deem Cyber-Attacks "An Act of War"

If true, talk about hypocritical...



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EU demands explanation after reports of NSA spying (Original Post) Poll_Blind Jun 2013 OP
"Make No Mistake... only by spying on our allies can MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #1
INAAOWWWDI DeSwiss Jun 2013 #2
By spying upon the Europeans, the super-rich will be able to increase their wealth even more. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2013 #3
BAH, Endgame, etc. - All Previoulsy Reported - The True Impact Of Privatizing Everything Government cantbeserious Jun 2013 #4
And they can confirm the validity of all that info...... DeSwiss Jun 2013 #5
America has become a pariah nation. dotymed Jun 2013 #8
The EU is obviously racist. Tseko Jun 2013 #6
Only in respect to dipsydoodle Jun 2013 #7
In this case the 'we love spies' folks are using 'Oh, come on! Everbody does it!' Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #9
Just like Zimmerman...nt Enthusiast Jun 2013 #12
Its wierd to see the EU complaining when some of their own member countries were also cstanleytech Jun 2013 #10
Nice try. 'Some members' = UK. Your link doesn't even mention the EU. Celefin Jun 2013 #13
It's funny b/c they all spy on each other and us! Dustlawyer Jun 2013 #11
Hahahahahahaha!!!! DeSwiss Jun 2013 #15
Maybe secondvariety Jun 2013 #14
+1 Ash_F Jun 2013 #16
If what your are doing is going to embarass you, don't do it CanonRay Jun 2013 #17
Your mother offered some sound advice, there. +1 nt Poll_Blind Jun 2013 #19
Also puts the EU / US trade deal in doubt. dipsydoodle Jun 2013 #18
Using a secret gov't surveillance apparatus for ... $$$? DirkGently Jun 2013 #20
 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
1. "Make No Mistake... only by spying on our allies can
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 08:07 AM
Jun 2013

we ensure that their information is kept private..."

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
3. By spying upon the Europeans, the super-rich will be able to increase their wealth even more.
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 08:14 AM
Jun 2013

There's several ways for the super-rich to have access to the information. One way is to control a company that contracts with the government to spy upon everyone.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
5. And they can confirm the validity of all that info......
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 08:20 AM
Jun 2013

...they've gathered in this way, from independent contractors.

- AKA: ''Our elected officials......''

dotymed

(5,610 posts)
8. America has become a pariah nation.
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 09:11 AM
Jun 2013

This will have world wide repercussions. This spying on a world-wide basis can only be interpreted as an act of aggression in TPTB's
attempt at world dominance.
Other nations will have no alternative but to shun America.
America has, in the past, adopted isolationist policies on it's own. IMO, our future will be one of isolation imposed by other nations.

Yes, this is obviously a scheme of the wealthy to increase their profits, yet again it will be those who can least afford it who will have to pay for this intrusion.

Undoubtedly this is an Orwellian move.

We have always been at war with Eurasia.
If we do not act soon to stop these spying sociopaths, we will be behind the iron curtain.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
9. In this case the 'we love spies' folks are using 'Oh, come on! Everbody does it!'
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 09:15 AM
Jun 2013

As the excuse. 'If you think this is news' they say 'you are really a special kind of special'.
The 'special' remark is OFA patented wisecrackery at the disabled. They adore that sort of thing.

cstanleytech

(26,292 posts)
10. Its wierd to see the EU complaining when some of their own member countries were also
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 09:23 AM
Jun 2013

involved in doing the same themselves http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/06/07/verizon-data-shared-with-u-k.html and it makes me wonder why they arent demanding an explanation from them.

Celefin

(532 posts)
13. Nice try. 'Some members' = UK. Your link doesn't even mention the EU.
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 10:32 AM
Jun 2013

Article at link is headlined Phone Records Shared With U.K

From that article:
At least one foreign government has gained access to sensitive data collected by the National Security Agency from U.S. telecommunications companies in dragnet court warrants demanding the secret transfer of U.S. customers’ calling records.

'At least one' still means UK as the only verified country; which is hardly surprising as the UK has been sharing all their surveillance data with the US, without knowledge by the EU. The UK has quite the special relationship with the EU in pretty much the absolutely opposite way than then special relationship with the US.

Since you're not looking at EU level with your link, here's one on Germany demanding an explanation from the UK.
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/germany-demands-explanation-over-uk-surveillance-programme/1133530/

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
15. Hahahahahahaha!!!!
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 10:52 AM
Jun 2013

Ain't it funny when you're rights get trashed!?!?! And since they've been doin' it all this time, and we've been doin' it all this time, and everybody else has been doin' it all this time, well.... then it must be OKAY, right!?!?!

I don't know what we were goin' on about. Huh? I mean it's just a little surveillance and privacy rights violations, okay? I mean it's not like it was anything that's really important. Right?

- At least not yet anyways......






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Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
16. +1
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 11:02 AM
Jun 2013

The US government won't even answer to its own people. Hell, it won't even answer it's own Senate. I have no doubt the NSA and the Justice department do not even feel the need to answer to the President.

The USA has become a dysfunctional Banana Republic.

CanonRay

(14,103 posts)
17. If what your are doing is going to embarass you, don't do it
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 11:15 AM
Jun 2013

At least that's what my mother always told me.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
20. Using a secret gov't surveillance apparatus for ... $$$?
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 02:03 PM
Jun 2013

Inconceivable! All those private contractors have only the War on Terrrrrrroorrrrr in their hearts, surely.
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