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alp227

(32,025 posts)
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 02:01 PM Jun 2013

Obama Visits Prison Where Mandela Was Jailed

Source: nyt

CAPE TOWN — In the foreword to Nelson Mandela’s 2010 book of letters, President Obama wrote that “even when little sunlight shined into that Robben Island cell, he could see a better future — one worthy of sacrifice.”

On Sunday, Mr. Obama stood in that same, tiny prison cell — now a monument to Mr. Mandela, South Africa’s first black president — and showed his wife and two daughters the place where Mr. Mandela was incarcerated for 18 years during his long campaign to end the policies of racial apartheid and oppression in his country.

Later, Mr. Obama again invoked the legacy of Mr. Mandela, 94, who remained in critical condition at a Pretoria, South Africa, hospital, during a speech to the African people he delivered from the University of Cape Town.

In the speech, he called Mr. Mandela the ultimate testament to the process of peaceful change and said his daughters now understood his legacy better. “Seeing them stand within the walls that once surrounded Nelson Mandela, I knew this was an experience they would never forget,” Mr. Obama said.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/01/world/africa/obama-visits-prison-where-mandela-was-jailed.html?pagewanted=all





President Obama toured the prison cell where Nelson Mandela was held on Robben Island, South Africa, on Sunday. The prison is now a monument in honor of Mr. Mandela. (Doug Mills/The New York Times)
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Obama Visits Prison Where Mandela Was Jailed (Original Post) alp227 Jun 2013 OP
Just think if the Us didn't support South African aprtheid. Arctic Dave Jun 2013 #1
I wonder if it was as bad as Guantanamo. Towlie Jun 2013 #2
That's the prison he should have visited. DeSwiss Jun 2013 #8
Excellent article, thanks for bringing it, alp. Obama, Mandela, Kennedy, all. freshwest Jun 2013 #3
Kick pinto Jun 2013 #4
He'd already seen it in 2006 dipsydoodle Jun 2013 #5
Damn, I'm still at awe Iliyah Jun 2013 #6
Republicans used to call Mandela a terrorist. Ash_F Jun 2013 #7
He was in jail for leading an organization XemaSab Jun 2013 #9
Oh hey there it is. /nt Ash_F Jun 2013 #10
You have a source that says otherwise? XemaSab Jun 2013 #11
I'm not going to engage you in conversation about this Ash_F Jun 2013 #12
I like Mandela and I think he's a modern hero XemaSab Jun 2013 #13
 

Arctic Dave

(13,812 posts)
1. Just think if the Us didn't support South African aprtheid.
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 03:01 PM
Jun 2013

That little nugget of information gets lost in the "we did it to defeat the evil commies" blather.

Other Western countries adopted a more ambivalent position. In Switzerland the Swiss-South African Association lobbied on behalf of the South African government. In the 1980s both the US Reagan and UK Thatcher administrations, followed a 'constructive engagement' policy with the apartheid government, vetoing the imposition of UN economic sanctions on South Africa, justified by a belief in free trade and a vision of South Africa as a bastion against Marxist forces in Southern Africa. Thatcher declared the ANC a terrorist organisation,[104] and in 1987 her spokesman, Bernard Ingham, famously said that anyone who believed that the ANC would ever form the government of South Africa was "living in cloud cuckoo land".[105]

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
8. That's the prison he should have visited.
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 08:48 PM
Jun 2013

Go and see the 86 prisoners that can't be charged since there's no evidence against them? Take them a fruit basket?

- I guess Congress won't let him do that either......

K&R

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
6. Damn, I'm still at awe
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 06:54 PM
Jun 2013

when I visit in DC the Vietnam Wall. Mandela spent 27 years in prison, and I myself would still be in awe visit after visit because its history.

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
9. He was in jail for leading an organization
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 09:23 PM
Jun 2013

that went on a bombing campaign.

It's not a totally crazy assertion.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
12. I'm not going to engage you in conversation about this
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 09:30 PM
Jun 2013

It's good enough for me that you showed yourself in this thread.

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
13. I like Mandela and I think he's a modern hero
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 09:45 PM
Jun 2013

but he isn't a saint, and pretending that he is is disrespectful to his legacy.

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