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IDemo

(16,926 posts)
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 09:27 PM Jul 2013

Man arrested in stolen truck carrying weapons, explosives, body armor in Seattle

Source: NBC News

The FBI and Seattle authorities were investigating a 21-year-old Nevada man who was spotted on the University of Washington campus in a stolen truck carrying multiple Molotov cocktails, stolen firearms and body armor, police said Thursday.

The man, whose identity wasn't released, was arrested a few blocks away after a police pursuit near Seattle Children's Hospital late Wednesday, said John Vinson, chief of the University of Washington police. He gave no further details of the pursuit, but he described the arrest as "high-risk."

He said investigators "have no idea what his intentions are."

Campus police first encountered the man Tuesday when they found him sleeping in the truck, Vinson said. A records check turned up empty, so the man was sent on his way.

Read more: http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/07/04/19291222-man-arrested-in-stolen-truck-carrying-weapons-explosives-body-armor-in-seattle?lite

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Man arrested in stolen truck carrying weapons, explosives, body armor in Seattle (Original Post) IDemo Jul 2013 OP
Best way to stop a bad guy with a molotov cocktail? Orrex Jul 2013 #1
Throw a lit match at him? DJ13 Jul 2013 #2
That was supposed to be a response to #1 DJ13 Jul 2013 #10
"have no idea what his intentions are." Lasher Jul 2013 #3
Just another citizen exercising his 2nd Amendment rights. mbperrin Jul 2013 #4
Nah, this was a criminal with stolen and homemade weapons. nt Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #5
Wow what would have happened if we didn't have our awesome surveillance state!!! dkf Jul 2013 #6
Scary-he was arrested less than 4 miles from my home freeplessinseattle Jul 2013 #7
about 2 miles from mine maxsolomon Jul 2013 #22
Glad you're okay! nt okaawhatever Jul 2013 #25
Seattle PD and Seattle Times links uppityperson Jul 2013 #8
Thanks NRA DallasNE Jul 2013 #9
'A records check turned up empty, so the man was sent on his way.' freshwest Jul 2013 #11
Odd bird. Wonder if this is his blog: Robb Jul 2013 #12
blueguts needs an introduction to snopes... Johnyawl Jul 2013 #14
This has been circulating Nevernose Jul 2013 #18
Snopes says it first showed up on the internet in 1999 Johnyawl Jul 2013 #19
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #27
Arrested for what? jberryhill Jul 2013 #13
Stolen truck, possibly? Johnyawl Jul 2013 #15
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #28
The truck's owner reported the truck stolen after the person who had the truck emailed the owner struggle4progress Jul 2013 #31
"The guns & ammo were already in truck"---Justin didn't see them there? Rrriiight... wordpix Jul 2013 #34
Went to the blog and the holes in JJ's story are glaring wordpix Jul 2013 #35
Just another gun culturist. nt onehandle Jul 2013 #16
I would just like to point out that PRISM had no role in stopping this person. Ash_F Jul 2013 #17
There's no way you could possibly know just how involved PRISM or the NSA was involved bushisanidiot Jul 2013 #21
That's adorable. /nt Ash_F Jul 2013 #24
Probably some right wing militia terrorist wanting to do something on the 4th of July. bushisanidiot Jul 2013 #20
Give him a fair trial... flying rabbit Jul 2013 #23
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #29
"He was there to support Prop 8/DOMA"? Behind the Aegis Jul 2013 #30
Well, let's not jump to any hasty conclusions here. Lessee. According to posts in this thread: struggle4progress Jul 2013 #32
I know! How ironic JJ ran out of gas when he had all those molotov cocktails filled with the stuff! wordpix Jul 2013 #36
the sister is confused. She thinks DU is a RW site b/c it has the word "Democratic" in it wordpix Jul 2013 #39
If he was there to support prop 8 and DOMA then he fits the hateful, bigoted bushisanidiot Jul 2013 #33
A fun question is ManiacJoe Jul 2013 #26
Another question: WAS the truck stolen? I doubt it wordpix Jul 2013 #37
Also had maps to 3 Seattle colleges suffragette Jul 2013 #38

mbperrin

(7,672 posts)
4. Just another citizen exercising his 2nd Amendment rights.
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 09:35 PM
Jul 2013

Move along, these aren't the weapons you're looking for.

Just thought I'd beat the apologists to it.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
22. about 2 miles from mine
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 11:05 AM
Jul 2013

right in front of China Village restaurant. and there's more crazy this morning in Capitol Hill with a SWAT standoff.

i think he was just on the run - probably few plans if any.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
11. 'A records check turned up empty, so the man was sent on his way.'
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 10:00 PM
Jul 2013
All your data base are belong to...



Data base FAIL!

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
18. This has been circulating
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 11:23 PM
Jul 2013

Pretty heavily in the black community for the last year or two. It was mentioned in a popular conspiracy-theory-quality of black history (stuff that would make the SciFi channel blush at the absurdity); I suspect the film makers got it from the email chain. I've had many people mention it to me in person over the last year or so.

Johnyawl

(3,205 posts)
19. Snopes says it first showed up on the internet in 1999
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 04:03 AM
Jul 2013


Following that link this morning was the first time I'd seen it. I guess I need to "get out" more. lol

Response to Robb (Reply #12)

Johnyawl

(3,205 posts)
15. Stolen truck, possibly?
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 10:35 PM
Jul 2013

Maybe the stolen guns found in the stolen truck?

What I don't understand is why it took the State of Montana 24 hrs to alert the UW Police that the truck was stolen. You would think with computers that knowledge would be immediatly availabe.

Response to Johnyawl (Reply #15)

struggle4progress

(118,290 posts)
31. The truck's owner reported the truck stolen after the person who had the truck emailed the owner
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 02:02 AM
Jul 2013

to say that he had run out of gas?

Did the Molotov cocktails in the truck belong to the truck owner, too, or just all the guns and ammo?

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
34. "The guns & ammo were already in truck"---Justin didn't see them there? Rrriiight...
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 11:55 AM
Jul 2013

I'm sure he's completely innocent and had no idea the truck was full of guns, ammo, body armor and bombs. All that stuff is so hard to see when it's all piled into a truck cab

Even if one does see guns, ammo, bombs and body armor piled high inside a truck, it's so common an occurrence that of course, no one would think twice about it and call authorities.

Sounds like maybe Erik is involved but Justin is the guy who was in the truck with the WMD so I'm certainly not jumping on the "free Justin" bandwagon with you. Besides, you've already admitted Justin is a RW nutjob, supporting DOMA and the like. Let justice be served.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
35. Went to the blog and the holes in JJ's story are glaring
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 12:25 PM
Jul 2013

He never admits he knew or didn't know he was driving around with all those guns/bombs, etc. in the truck. Hard to believe he didn't know. There's no explanation of the molotov cocktails or body armor---if you're going to practice shoot, you don't need these.


Then there's this: (snip) "With all of the theft charges dropped, the state was left to find direct evidence against Justin for the only charge unaccounted for- the alleged molotov cocktails- which consisted of gas in glass bottles during a period that Justin was in need of fuel. "

My question: What does the time period when Justin needed fuel have to do with the bombs being there?

Or this statement only a RWer could believe: "Justins life is worth more than $150. His future and background are at risk of being tarnished forever over the cost of 2 tanks of gas..."

Whaaaa? He is not being indicted because he did not have $150 for gas but b/c he was in a truck filled with guns, ammo, explosives, and body armor, on a college campus where he did not attend the college. Statements like the one above do not help JJ's case at all---they just make him/his family appear that they get all their info from Faux.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
17. I would just like to point out that PRISM had no role in stopping this person.
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 11:07 PM
Jul 2013

Or anyone else actually. Ever.

bushisanidiot

(8,064 posts)
21. There's no way you could possibly know just how involved PRISM or the NSA was involved
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 10:00 AM
Jul 2013

in this or other terrorist plots that have been thwarted. You are merely guessing.. or hoping.

bushisanidiot

(8,064 posts)
20. Probably some right wing militia terrorist wanting to do something on the 4th of July.
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 09:59 AM
Jul 2013

either way, this guy needs to be treated as a terrorist and be locked up for life.

Response to bushisanidiot (Reply #20)

struggle4progress

(118,290 posts)
32. Well, let's not jump to any hasty conclusions here. Lessee. According to posts in this thread:
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 02:24 AM
Jul 2013

(1) the truck's owner reported the truck stolen after the truck driver emailed the truck owner to tell him he'd run out of gas; and (2) the guns and ammo, that were in the truck that didn't belong to the truck driver, also didn't belong to the truck driver. And it's not clear yet whether the reported Molotov cocktails belonged to the truck driver or the truck owner or some third party who has not yet reported to the police that somebody stole a bunch of his Molotov cocktails, because the truck driver hasn't emailed him yet. We have also failed so far to determine how the driver could have run out of gas when he had a bunch of Molotov cocktails. There may be a completely innocent explanation, beginning perhaps with a conversation involving the common words, "Here! Hold my beer!"

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
36. I know! How ironic JJ ran out of gas when he had all those molotov cocktails filled with the stuff!
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 12:32 PM
Jul 2013
Such a simple solution right there, rolling around in the cab.

And to think he was on his way to a Prop 8/pro-DOMA, pro July 4 rights event, too, with all the guns and ammo and body armor, and he had no idea they were there in the truck cab with him.

I'm sure there's some kind of explanation to these coincidences

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
39. the sister is confused. She thinks DU is a RW site b/c it has the word "Democratic" in it
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 03:19 PM
Jul 2013

Watch out, it will soon be a code word for the RWnuts just like freedom, July 4, 2nd Amendment, patriot, tea party, etc.

bushisanidiot

(8,064 posts)
33. If he was there to support prop 8 and DOMA then he fits the hateful, bigoted
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 08:59 AM
Jul 2013

Right wing nutcase profile who gies to violent extremes when things dont go their way.

Right wing militia groups LOVE that Barack Obama won reelection because it means they get to KEEP RECRUITING RIGHT WINGERS TO THEIR HATE GROUPS.

I hope the justice department treats them like the terrorists they are.

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
26. A fun question is
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 07:56 PM
Jul 2013

How many of the stolen guns and explosives were already in the truck when it was stolen?

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
37. Another question: WAS the truck stolen? I doubt it
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 12:34 PM
Jul 2013

First the truck owner said it was but then he recanted. Seems like the story is changing by the hour. My guess is the two were in cahoots.

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
38. Also had maps to 3 Seattle colleges
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 02:21 PM
Jul 2013


http://www.komonews.com/news/local/2-million-bail-for-man-found-near-UW-with-molotov-cocktails--214426451.html
Prosecutors say a man who was caught in a stolen truck full of stolen weapons, body armor and incendiary devices had maps of three local colleges and evidence indicating he was planning some sort of incident in the western United States.


Also are restricting him from talking to the guy in Montana:

http://www.sfgate.com/news/crime/article/Seattle-arrested-man-charged-with-possessing-bomb-4655916.php
Prosecutors also asked that Jasper be prohibited from any contact with Erik Henderson, a truck driver in Butte, Mont., who had let Jasper stay at his home.

Henderson told authorities he returned from a trip last week to find his pickup truck missing, and knives and two guns taken from his home. He told The Seattle Times the body armor was his from his days as a contract convoy trucker in Iraq.



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