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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 08:44 AM Jul 2013

Pope Francis clears John Paul II for sainthood

Source: AP



VATICAN CITY (AP) — Pope Francis on Friday cleared Pope John Paul II for sainthood, approving a miracle attributed to his intercession and setting up a remarkable dual canonization along with another beloved pope, John XXIII.

In a major demonstration of his papal authority, Francis decided to make John XXIII a saint even though the Vatican hasn't confirmed a second miracle attributed to his intercession. The Vatican said Francis had the power to "dispense" with the normal saint-making procedures to canonize him on his own merit, without a miracle.

The ceremonies are expected before the end of the year. The date of Dec. 8 has been floated as one possibility, given it's the feast of the Immaculate Conception, a major feast day for the church. Polish media continued to report that October was likely, to mark the anniversary of John Paul's election, but Vatican officials have said that's too soon to organize such a massive event.

The Vatican spokesman, the Rev. Federico Lombardi, confirmed that the miracle that brought John Paul to the ranks of sainthood concerned a Costa Rican woman.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/pope-francis-clears-john-paul-ii-sainthood-110701957.html

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Pope Francis clears John Paul II for sainthood (Original Post) onehandle Jul 2013 OP
Saints: cheaper by the dozen. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2013 #1
One of the worst things the church has done recently was... Javaman Jul 2013 #8
St. Pedophile Enabler. beac Jul 2013 #2
DUZY. ChairmanAgnostic Jul 2013 #7
Hmmmm... WovenGems Jul 2013 #3
John XXIII, "on his own merits" makes him better UTUSN Jul 2013 #4
What about John Paul I? Pab Sungenis Jul 2013 #5
I was born the day he died. Within hours of his death in fact. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #6
When you're that holy you get "taken care of". ForgoTheConsequence Jul 2013 #9
Oh, goody. More medieval hocus-pocus nonsense Arugula Latte Jul 2013 #10
+1000 forestpath Jul 2013 #11
Don't Forget Pope Pius XII chuckstevens Jul 2013 #12
Hurry it up, willya? Orsino Jul 2013 #13

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
8. One of the worst things the church has done recently was...
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 02:12 PM
Jul 2013

get rid of the devil advocate.

I'm an Atheist.

UTUSN

(70,700 posts)
4. John XXIII, "on his own merits" makes him better
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 09:32 AM
Jul 2013

The only news reports yesterday ballyhooed JP II as the one being done. The back-handed news this morning included John XXIII.

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http://edition.cnn.com/2013/07/05/world/europe/vatican-pope-sainthood/index.html?on.cnn=1

Pope John XXIII, who convened the Vatican II council in the 1960s, will also be declared a saint, the Vatican said

No date has been announced for the canonization ceremony.

John XXIII was famed for calling the Second Vatican Council in 1962, which ushered in great changes in the Roman Catholic Church's relationship with the modern world.

He was pope from 1958 to 1963.



Despite being so beloved, John Paul II didn't live up to expectations at a crucial moment in the church's history, as revelations of sexual abuse scandals involving thousands Catholic priests erupted across the world in the early 2000s, critics say.

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Pab Sungenis

(9,612 posts)
5. What about John Paul I?
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 10:07 AM
Jul 2013

Holier than the three Popes before him and the two after. He deserves canonization.

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,868 posts)
9. When you're that holy you get "taken care of".
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 03:00 PM
Jul 2013

When you enable and protect child sexual abuse you get canonized.

 

chuckstevens

(1,201 posts)
12. Don't Forget Pope Pius XII
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 04:58 PM
Jul 2013

Not only was Pope Pius a coward, failing to speak out against the Holocaust when he knew it was happening, his Vatican gave Ex Nazis (including the architect of the Death Camps himself, Adolf Eichmann) fake passports to flee to South America after the war! After all, the Nazis were a bulwark against communism. Maybe they should make Pius a saint, along with the man who did nothing while children were being raped. God I have no regrets leaving the Catholic Church!

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