Mass. cyclist dies after group hit by car in Ark.
Source: masslive.com
LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (AP) An 18-year-old Massachusetts woman died after she was injured when a car struck a group of bicyclists traveling through Arkansas on a cross-country summer trip, authorities said Thursday.
Merritt Levitan, of Milton, Mass., was one of 13 cyclists traveling from Charleston, S.C., to Santa Monica, Calif., as part of a six-week trip organized by a Williamstown, Mass.-based company called Overland.
Overland and Arkansas State Police said Thursday that Levitan died at the Regional Medical Center at Memphis, Tenn. Nursing supervisor Jackie Smartt said Levitan died Wednesday afternoon.
Levitan and six others were injured in the crash Tuesday afternoon near McCrory, Ark., about 90 miles northeast of Little Rock.
Read more: http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2013/07/mass_cyclist_dies_after_group.html#incart_river_default
BlueToTheBone
(3,747 posts)to posting car wrecks that occurred more than 18 hours ago? I am very sorry for the young woman killed and her family and companions and the person who killed her. But I thought this was a political forum.
maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)America has been largely built to accomodate fast moving motorized vehicles.
Bicycles have a right to the roads, but when the lanes are built with taxpayer funds to exclude them, or exclude pedestrians, then it becomes political.
Tragedies of this sort are poignant illustrations of the need to change this situation, just the same as toddler shootings which show the absurdity of our nation's cavalier attitude to firearms.
BlueToTheBone
(3,747 posts)General discussion is the home for this. just saying. But of course, I'm just a passenger on this ship.
maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)and let them decide
Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)If you believe the topic isn't appropriate for LBN alert on the OP and they will discuss whether it fits within the SOP.
eta: here's the SOP, FYI:
itsrobert
(14,157 posts)My understanding is bikes are suppose to use the same rules of the road that a motor vehicle is using. A bike going 20 miles an hour on a road that is 55 mph without any shoulder to get out of the way is very unsafe.
Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)Most states have language similar to this definition by the U.S. DOT:
IOW, the speed limit is trumped by road and traffic conditions that make that limit unsafe or imprudent.
itsrobert
(14,157 posts)I would think bikes and pedestrians would be ban from this portion of the highway.
sgsmith
(398 posts)Arkansas has a law that motor vehicles must leave 3 feet spacing from bicycles.
http://drivinglaws.aaa.com/laws/bicycles/
Arkansas
Bicycle helmets are not required.
Drivers passing a bicycle must pass with a space of 3 feet between the motor vehicle and the bicycle.
maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)Bikes are allowed where vehicles are allowed.
itsrobert
(14,157 posts)I don't know about laws on I-90 where you are. This road in the accident is designated a Highway. A highway with no shoulder or bike lanes. A highway that has only one lane in each direction.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)But, do most drivers care? No. All too often there's an either spoken or unspoken attitude of "The road is for cars/trucks of four wheels or more, only!!!1!" The rest are too distracted to notice that they're even driving, and we see the results in stories like this one.
Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)It's the ones who are clueless, careless, or distracted and the ones who don't care who are dangerous.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)But how many are aware of the law language you quoted? Yes, I know, "ignorance of the law" is no 'excuse', but I'm not giving an 'excuse'; I'm pointing out that most drivers don't know much more about what they do other than how to operate their vehicle. It doesn't go any further than that, and thus why bicycle accidents like this continue.
Personally, if I'd been involved in that group, I would have volunteered to drive an escort vehicle behind them, with at least a warning sign about what's ahead of me.
Hestia
(3,818 posts)The bikers were well displayed with vests and flags in a single file on the highway. The people of McCrory have really opened their homes up to the bikers so that they have a place to stay.
There was a gentleman who lives across the road from the wreck who stated that that is dangerous part of the road, wrecks happen all the time. As you can see in the OP link, it is a simple two lane road.
The kid who crashed into the bikers must have been texting or something.
This is horrible story. The group who puts on this bike ride has been doing it for 23 years and this is the first time something like this has happened to the group.
RIP Ms. Levitan, RIP.
Berlum
(7,044 posts)itsrobert
(14,157 posts)No mention in the article if the person on the bike was texting or drunk.
Berlum
(7,044 posts)Nice to have a vivid imagination, except when it distorts reality in the realm of utter BS.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Precisely how would one bicyclist testing result in a car struck striking an entire group of bicyclists?
itsrobert
(14,157 posts)That bikes have no business on that road. Legal or not. Flags and vests are no match for a 3000 lbs metal vehicle.
maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)How are humans on bikes supposed to get from point A to B without traversing these types of roads?
itsrobert
(14,157 posts)It's not safe for them both to be on that road at the same time. Was the road built for bicycles or motor traffic?
maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)That's a lot of banning.
But I like your idea of a separate, exclusive road for bikes running all the way across the country. Lets get it done!
itsrobert
(14,157 posts)They should not share the same road on a highway.
Kolesar
(31,182 posts)So we have a right to use the "right of way".
Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)Response to itsrobert (Reply #10)
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mpcamb
(2,871 posts)I say that as a person riding roads in rural America where my side of the road is invaded by texters.
Bikers texting??.... sounds bulljive to me. The guy HIT 6 OF THEM.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,002 posts)Lots of people who think that cyclists don't belong on roads are actively trying to discourage them by trying to run them off the road.
This could be a side-swipe attempt that got out of hand and lead to deaths. Would seem to be, at the least, negligent homicide and perhaps some form of manslaughter with some amount of premeditation.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Isn't that conjecture on your part?
I once watched a idiot on a bicycle talking on a cell phone in Central Square Cambridge: swerving back and forth as he did it. All the while he was oblivious to traffic. I was behind him on my bicycle at the time and felt embarrassed to even be near him.
The accident could very easily have been unavoidable, but we should wait before we damn either party.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)So they want to lift all financing for bike lanes and legal protections.
This is a political issue, as much as the results of gun nuttery is a political issue.
Where they want to lift all regulations for guns and remove all protections for non-gun nuts.
Like kindergarteners.
Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)If bikes were invented last week you'd probably see a majority of DUers demanding they be outlawed by now. It's pretty asinine.
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)I've lost people I know. One day you see them riding, the next day there are flowers on the side of the road.
Who are these idiots who navigate 2 ton pieces of metal and rubber as if they were a feather? Most people, I see.
If you ride a bike, it gives driving a car a whole different perspective. It gives using fuel a whole different perspective. In fact it gives a lot of things a different perspective. Like community, and life and health.
Skittles
(153,164 posts)I think it has done very well integrating bikers with traffic - I like the bike info above the street names - it constantly reminds everyone we share the roads
bvar22
(39,909 posts)When I lived in the Twin Cities,
I rode every day,
Summer and Minnesota Winter,
and LOVED it.
The Twin Cities, and state of Minnesota are very bike friendly.
I was a regular in the Bicycle Group at DU.
In 2006, my Wife & I moved to the beautiful, unspoiled Ouachita Mountains of Arkansas.
I tried to continue with my Bike regimen on the back roads and rural highways,
but quickly realized that this was not a smart thing to do.
Arkansas is a poor state,
the highways have NO shoulders, are poorly maintained,
and most of the drivers have NO awareness
and NO expectation of encountering a bicycle.
If you attempt to ride a bicycle in the state of Arkansas,
you ARE risking your life.
I don't LIKE that reality,
but I have acknowledged it.
Sadly, my bikes now hang upside down from the rafters in the shop,
unused,
and I grieve this morning for the young life lost doing something I love.
---bvar22
AndyTiedye
(23,500 posts)unused,
Could you ride somewhere the cars can't go?
Is the Ouachita National Forest near you? The Ouachita Trail allows bicycles on most parts.
http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/fsm9_039448.pdf
Hestia
(3,818 posts)No, the Ouachita Trail is NOWHERE near McCrory. It starts near Pinnacle Mountain in Roland (outside LR) and goes to Oklahoma. I'm sure the reason the biking club went through McCrory is because of the low population in that area of Ark. All the factories have left, hence all the people have left too. Those counties only have like 1,300 people in population and it looked like they were going across the state to NW Ark. which is not a bad idea.
How in the world would cyclists get from TN to OK if not through Ark? I don't understand the reasoning behind not allowing bikes on state highways. Everyone pays for the highways in some form, not just F150s you know.