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alp227

(32,034 posts)
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 04:30 PM Jul 2013

Cost Estimate Puts in Doubt Deal Covering Student Loans

Last edited Thu Jul 11, 2013, 09:19 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: New York Times

A tentative agreement to overhaul the federal student loan program was close to collapsing on Thursday night after the Congressional Budget Office said the proposal would cost the Treasury $22 billion over 10 years, according to aides familiar with the discussions.

Negotiators from both parties started the day with high hopes that a deal could be struck next week to restore lower student loan rates — but only after Senate Democrats retreated on their position that subsidized loan rates be locked in for at least another year and not subjected to market forces.

Under the agreement, interest rates for Stafford student loans, which go to low- and moderate-income students, would be tied to the variable rates of the 10-year Treasury bond plus 1.8 percentage points, according to aides for the Senate Democratic leadership. The graduate student rate would be the 10-year Treasury rate plus 3.4 percentage points. The rate in another federal loan program, PLUS, would be the Treasury rate plus 4.5 percentage points.

The deal hewed closely to a plan drafted by the Obama administration and modified in a bill passed by House Republicans. To win over Democrats, it would cap interest rates at 8.25 percent for undergraduates and 9.25 percent for graduate students.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/12/us/politics/tentative-senate-deal-reached-on-student-loan-rates.html

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flpoljunkie

(26,184 posts)
2. We say we value students and their education, but we do not. We profit from it.
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 04:56 PM
Jul 2013

And, now the profits will be egregious. Very sad, indeed!

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
3. Got to keep the moderate to low income kids out of college to make room for foreign students
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 05:06 PM
Jul 2013

That is where the real money is.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
4. Another case of sound and fury that signifieth not a damn thing.
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 05:08 PM
Jul 2013

Rates capped at 9.25 when they were at 3.4?

Warpy

(111,277 posts)
6. Those old boys need a history lesson
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 05:27 PM
Jul 2013

Most revolutions from ancient times to the present have occurred because the population had been thrust into debt peonage by the grabbing class. Elimination of debt was at the top of the list of demands.

Congress needs their collective memory refreshed that if they keep pursuing these anti citizen policies, the tumbrils will likely roll again.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
7. Hey, Dems! Remember the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy?
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 05:32 PM
Jul 2013

Remember how they were supposed to be "temporary?"

"Temporary" Bush Tax Rates now in Law Longer than "Permanent" Clinton Tax Rates

Tuesday, June 7th, marked the 10-year anniversary of the passage of the 2001 tax cuts—formally known as the Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001 or EGTRRA (pronounced "egg-tray" by Washington insiders). Many groups issued shrill press releases to commemorate the event, blaming the lower rates for the deficit and other economic ills facing the country.

While many on the political left rail against the Bush-era tax rates and believe they should be allowed to expire, it is interesting to note that these "temporary" tax rates have been in place longer than the "permanent" Clinton-era tax rates they cut. Indeed, the lower Bush-era tax rates—with a top rate of 35 percent—have been fully in effect for nine years, since the Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003 (JGTRRA or "jeg-tray&quot was enacted to accelerate the phased-in rate cuts set forth in the 2001 legislation. By contrast, the Clinton-era rates—with a top rate of 39.6 percent—were in effect for just seven years, from 1994 to 2000.

Ironically, before the Bush-era rates expire (again) on December 31, 2012, they will have been in place for 10 years, which will tie the 1954 to 1963 period (with a top rate of 91 percent) for the second longest period of stability for any set of tax rates. The longest any top rate was in effect was the 17 years between 1965 and 1981, when the top rate was 70 percent.

Since it was enacted in 1913, the tax code has been anything but stable. The top rate alone has been changed at least 28 times over the past 98 years (click here for the rates from 1913 to 2011). Remarkably, even the 7 percent top rate enacted in the first income tax code was only in effect for two years.

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http://taxfoundation.org/blog/temporary-bush-tax-rates-now-law-longer-permanent-clinton-tax-rates


Democrats retreated on their position that subsidized loan rates be locked in for at least another year.

Remember, when something gets done, even if it's "temporary," it tends to stay that way...

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
8. I'm getting sick and tired of hearing about the Democrats caving to the
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 06:31 PM
Jul 2013

Republicans all the time. When are those fools ever going to get some backbone?

stuffmatters

(2,574 posts)
9. Once again: Bipartisan=s What Wall Street Wants
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 07:01 PM
Jul 2013

This is an outrageous bill, variable rates putting students squarely into indentured servitude. And there's no escape via bankruptcy.

 

AAO

(3,300 posts)
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Jul 2013

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davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
12. The 5.2% for subsidized Stafford Loans is ridiculous
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 04:14 AM
Jul 2013

The Republicans are trying to FUCK the students over. The loans I receive this year will be at the higher interest rate. Thank god I only have about 16 months left.

truthisfreedom

(23,148 posts)
13. We should be paying students to go to school. It's done in Europe with great success
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 04:20 AM
Jul 2013

and it's done on the backs of the very rich. Who benefit mightily from the highly educated workers. Let's look at reality here. We have examples to examine.

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