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alp227

(32,034 posts)
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 04:35 PM Jul 2013

House Republicans Push Through Farm Bill, Without Food Stamps

Last edited Thu Jul 11, 2013, 09:21 PM - Edit history (2)

Source: New York Times

Republicans muscled a pared-back agriculture bill through the House on Thursday, stripping out the food stamp program to satisfy recalcitrant conservatives but losing what little Democratic support the bill had when it failed last month. It was the first time food stamps had not been a part of the farm bill since 1973.

The 216-to-208 vote saved House Republican leaders from an embarrassing reprisal of the unexpected defeat of a broader version of the bill in June, but the future of agriculture policy remains uncertain. The food stamp program, formally called the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, was 80 percent of the original bill’s cost, and it remains the centerpiece of the Senate’s bipartisan farm bill.

Even in a chamber used to acrimony, Thursday’s debate in the House was particularly brutal. Democrats repeatedly called for roll-call votes on parliamentary procedures and motions to adjourn, delaying the final vote by hours and charging Republicans over and over again with callousness and cruelty.

Republicans shouted protests, trying to silence the most strident Democrats, and were repeatedly forced to vote to uphold their own parliamentary rulings.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/12/us/politics/house-bill-would-split-farm-and-food-stamp-programs.html?pagewanted=all



Enjoy 2014, right wing rat bastards.

The people had better get out there in FULL FORCE all the way til November 4, 2014. Flood the phone lines and town hall meetings.

SHAME. SHAME. SHAME.

The roll call: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2013/roll353.xml
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House Republicans Push Through Farm Bill, Without Food Stamps (Original Post) alp227 Jul 2013 OP
V E T O Deep13 Jul 2013 #1
Not gonna pass the senate Iliyah Jul 2013 #2
Classless Hubris...over, & over... BornLooser Jul 2013 #3
House Dems....charging Republicans over and over again with callousness and cruelty. MADem Jul 2013 #4
so they cut the snap program.... guess what? madrchsod Jul 2013 #5
If I understand correctly, this wouldn't actually eliminate food stamps starroute Jul 2013 #7
Not just farmers and food processors benefit, but... tex-wyo-dem Jul 2013 #14
more wasted tax payers money iamthebandfanman Jul 2013 #6
Unbelievable! another_liberal Jul 2013 #8
They should allow the bill to become law DWinNJ Jul 2013 #9
Just another nail!! nt kelliekat44 Jul 2013 #10
thanks alp Cha Jul 2013 #11
The GOPee has no shame. blkmusclmachine Jul 2013 #12
5.1 billion pounds of pesticides used each yr. in US---any Congressmen dealing with THAT? wordpix Jul 2013 #13

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
2. Not gonna pass the senate
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 04:40 PM
Jul 2013

senate will kick it back with the snap attached, but hopefully w/o any cuts. The the way it is now, snap can be compete ly disband leaving millions to starve. How Christian of you house gop.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
4. House Dems....charging Republicans over and over again with callousness and cruelty.
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 05:07 PM
Jul 2013

And that's putting it KINDLY!

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
5. so they cut the snap program.... guess what?
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 05:07 PM
Jul 2013

that`s less money for the farmers and the food processors! every penny of snap is returned directly or indirectly to the farmer and processors.


only a republican could see what they did as a victory.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
7. If I understand correctly, this wouldn't actually eliminate food stamps
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 05:45 PM
Jul 2013

Without specific legislation, those would keep going as they are now. What it does do is separate them out from the rest of the farm bill, making it easier to kill them later.

Farm legislation has always represented a balance of interests -- the GOP gets price supports for their rural voters, the Democrats get food stamps for their urban constituents, and everybody is happy. Splitting the two and passing the rural part on its own would deprive the Democrats of any leverage.

I could be wrong -- most of the coverage doesn't make the real issue very clear -- but I think that's how it works.

tex-wyo-dem

(3,190 posts)
14. Not just farmers and food processors benefit, but...
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 01:46 AM
Jul 2013

The whole economy. I forget which group released the study, but they found that the single most effective government program for stimulating the economy was food stamps, because nearly every cent of the program went directly back into the economy. This is completely aside from fact that it is just the right and moral thing to do.

The rethugs really know how to shoot themselves in the head while pissing on everyone else.

iamthebandfanman

(8,127 posts)
6. more wasted tax payers money
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 05:08 PM
Jul 2013

voting on a bill they know will go nowhere...

I wonder how much in total, just from voting, tax money has been wasted on their meaningless votes and ideological grand standing?

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
8. Unbelievable!
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 06:08 PM
Jul 2013

Leaving aside for a moment the inhumanity of what they are trying to do, don't they realize that people will go hungry for only so long before they turn to crime en-mass? Are all of these bastards heavily invested in the for-profit prison industry? I would not be a bit surprised.

The real joke may be on them, however, because the same poor, White Americans who vote for their stupid asses are the ones who receive the majority of food stamps in this country. I can't wait to see how that plays out for them.

DWinNJ

(261 posts)
9. They should allow the bill to become law
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 07:32 PM
Jul 2013

because we know we can trust the republicans to pass the food stamp bill at a later time.

 

blkmusclmachine

(16,149 posts)
12. The GOPee has no shame.
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 12:32 AM
Jul 2013

They're a pack of raving lunatics. And these are the people Obama always backs down to. Ugh!

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
13. 5.1 billion pounds of pesticides used each yr. in US---any Congressmen dealing with THAT?
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 01:31 PM
Jul 2013

No? I didn't think so.

http://www.epa.gov/pesticides/factsheets/securty.htm

snip: Approximately 5.1 billion pounds of pesticides are used each year in the United States. EPA has registered new, safer products to replace older, more traditional pesticides on the farm, as well as in the backyard. A challenge for EPA is to ensure that pest control and pesticide use become increasingly safer each year.

Pesticide ingredients here:

http://npic.orst.edu/ingred/specchem.html

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