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Judi Lynn

(160,601 posts)
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 02:38 PM Jul 2013

Italy: Nooses Protest Over First Black Minister

Source: Sky News

Italy: Nooses Protest Over First Black Minister

Nooses are hung on lampposts as Cecile Kyenge visits Pescara, two days after a politician compared her to an orangutan.

6:00pm UK, Monday 15 July 2013

Far-right militants in Italy are suspected of hanging nooses in protest at the country's first black minister, prompting a police investigation.

The nooses appeared on lampposts with posters signed by extremist group Forza Nuova in the city of Pescara, as minister for integration Cecile Kyenge was visiting for a conference on immigration and citizenship.

"Immigration, the noose of the people!" read one of the slogans on the posters.

Another said: "Everyone should live in their own country".


Read more: http://news.sky.com/story/1116068/italy-nooses-protest-over-first-black-minister

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Italy: Nooses Protest Over First Black Minister (Original Post) Judi Lynn Jul 2013 OP
Awful shenmue Jul 2013 #1
Just think if the RCC had picked an African Pope! radhika Jul 2013 #2
what heaven05 Jul 2013 #3
It's called "preconceptions." Igel Jul 2013 #4

radhika

(1,008 posts)
2. Just think if the RCC had picked an African Pope!
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 02:52 PM
Jul 2013

One of the lead candidates was supposedly a black Cardinal from Ghana.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
3. what
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 03:18 PM
Jul 2013

is this sickness? None of us can choose our skin color. Worldwide, I think. I know germany for sure and most eastern european countries. Quiet as it's kept, Russia is very racist. Britain and Amerikkka are the world champions of racism in modern times though.

Igel

(35,350 posts)
4. It's called "preconceptions."
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 10:10 AM
Jul 2013

American preconceptions are always so quaint, so parochial.

The EU austerity measures were "the noose of Greece." Because we all know that the leaders in the EU are black. There's Merkel, for instance. Obvious of Cameroonian extaction (former Germany colony). But that's from the same newspaper decrying the "coppio" this time. Not racist when they do it, racist when others do it. Ah.

"Banks = the noose of the peoples" was last year's incidental campaign. Gotta be an anti-bankist position because of the race of Italian bankers. A veiled death threat. It's a hegemony of S. Egyptians (Egypt was, at one point, Italian.) This is the same group, la Forza nuova. Not racist when they did it last year in solidarity with a married couple that the banks drove to suicide. Racist when they did it this year.

Now "immigration, the noose of the peoples". So immigration is the noose. And they're threatening Kyenge with immigration. Or with a cultural practice of the American South from a couple of generations ago. How strange that the whole world is American.

While the media really despise the Forza nuova, nobody wanted to even think that somehow "noose" had any connotations than what it usually has in Italian when that's what the banks were called. "A noose around your neck" is a way of saying you're stymied, thwarted, your hands are tied and you have to be meek and submissive. You're "kept down." So the EU austerity measures keep Greece down. The EU measures *are* the noose, it's not a threat to hang the EU, and the victim is Greece. The banks keep the peoples down. It's not a threat to hang the banks; the victim is the "peoples". And immigration keeps the peoples down. Who's it threatening to hang? Nobody. Who's the victim? The peoples.

You don't have to agree with la Forza nuova. But if you can't be fair with your enemies, you can't be fair.

But that translation? No, that translator didn't earn his (her?) pay. Or the editor decided to mangle it. But making it sound smooth and natural doesn't excuse changing its meaning. Even if it does get the readers' attention.

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