Mike Lee threatens to shut down government over Obamacare
Source: Salt Lake Tribune
Washington Sen. Mike Lee has delivered an ultimatum: Stop funding Obamacare or hell try to shut down the entire federal government.
Utahs firebrand conservative is hitting friendly radio and TV shows to rally Republicans to his cause, appearing on Fox News morning show Monday saying so far he has at least 13 senators on board.
Theyll make their stand in October, when Congress is expected to vote on a continuing resolution that will keep the federal government functioning. Lee sees it as the last attempt to wind down Obamacare before it takes full effect Jan. 1.
At that time, most people will be required to have insurance or pay a fine, a law known as the individual mandate. And for the minority of people who dont get coverage through their jobs, theyll have new online insurance exchanges to shop in, with those on the lower end of the income scale getting federal subsidies.
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msongs
(67,438 posts)classof56
(5,376 posts)Do away with their taxpayer-funded salaries, perks and health care. Maybe their approval ratings will skyrocket.
Bunch of do-nothing know-nothing morans.
Roy Rolling
(6,928 posts)Congress has been shut down for years already.
As Yogi Berra said "if people don't want to come to the ballpark you can't stop them."
Brigid
(17,621 posts)Berra was right.
Let the voters who elected these idiots and the entire country see, feel, and enjoy the fruits of Republican Fantasy Economics that these idiots so desperately want. And pray the White House and Democrats don't make exceptions like the did with the FAA and air traffic control. Let the country really FEEL the disaster that is Republican Fantasy Economics. Logical arguments have not and never will work, so give them the Mencken:
"The common people know what they want and deserve to get it, good and hard." - H.L. Mencken
Mr. David
(535 posts)It's way past time to put the Republicans in a corner and have them shut the fuck up. Have the Seargent-At-Arms ordered to slap Mr. Lee mouth shut when he whines.
demwing
(16,916 posts)shutting down the government includes shutting down you.
Count me in...
BumRushDaShow
(129,376 posts)and deliver the House to Democrats in 2014.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)Diclotican
(5,095 posts)brooklynite
A evil man indeed - and I guess also a person who would let people starve even if he could give them some food to solve the hunger...Or in this case - ACA who could give many with bad health some coverage and medical help, instead of a life in pain and missery...
The republicans are indeed a breed of their own...
Diclotican
tofuandbeer
(1,314 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)FUCK HIM!!!!!!!
bemildred
(90,061 posts)NV Whino
(20,886 posts)alfredo
(60,075 posts)not come, nor would unemployment checks. Job loss would be astronomical
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Last edited Tue Jul 23, 2013, 03:00 PM - Edit history (1)
Eliminating government is the base of the Libertarian Party platform, that all can survive on charity, government must go away. Not only that, but Social Security must go away, which is what is keeping millions of people right now from being hungry and homeless...
We are talking about well over a hundred million people getting the essentials of life right now. Not everyone needs these long-term:
In 2012, over 56 million Americans will receive $778 billion in Social Security benefits.
http://www.ssa.gov/pressoffice/basicfact.htm
Medicaid is the nations largest health program in terms of number of recipients, serving 56 million to Medicares 48 million.
http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/health/diseasesconditionsandhealthtopics/medicaid/index.html
More than a third of Americans lived in households receiving government assistance in 2010.
http://money.cnn.com/2012/02/07/news/economy/government_assistance/index.htm
More than 46.6 Million Americans Participated in SNAP in June 2012
http://frac.org/reports-and-resources/snapfood-stamp-monthly-participation-data/
The Libertarian Party Platform on Welfare:
http://www.lp.org/issues/poverty-and-welfare
The Libertarian Party Platform on Health care:
http://www.ontheissues.org/celeb/Libertarian_Party_Health_Care.htm
More Libertarian, Ron Paul, Tea Bagger ideas that Democrats do not believe in:
Libertarians believe that taxes should be abolished along with all the programs and departments that taxes fund. Libertarians dont believe in Medicare. Libertarians dont believe in Social Security. Libertarians dont believe that there should be fire departments, police departments, public transportation, grants for education, unemployment, disability, food stamps, and every other type of government system and assistance that you can think of.
Libertarians wish to eliminate taxes in order to eliminate all of the above programs and more. Libertarians believe that without these taxes, individuals will have more money in their pockets and will be able to afford all of these things. If someone is unable to provide themselves or their family with school, health care, or food, people need to rely on family members, church, or a private charity.
Libertarians believe that governments role in the market should be to protect property owners rights. There should be no FDA, equal employment opportunities, unions, minimum wage, payroll taxes, safe food handling requirements, consumer protections, regulations that protect against financial conflicts of interest and fraud, and business licenses.
Libertarians believe that business owners should have the right to deny entry to minorities and/or women and/or people with disabilities, if that is how business owners wish to run their businesses.
http://deni-edwards.hubpages.com/hub/Defining-a-Libertarian-Ron-Pauls-Political-Platform
Social Security and Medicaid keeps millions of people they will never meet, and have no idea exist, off the streets. They disapprove of those who are doing the work to keep them alive and well, because it's a 'statist' thing, not ideologically pure, easy for them.
Democrats are and will continue to help many more people than private groups ever will. The GOP who are primarily Libertarians, plan to end all government so there will no votes needed, just be connected to the biggest boss you can find.
Here's another link:
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/02/federal-benefits-able-bodied-workers
Anyone who cares about such things, won't be cavalier like Mr. Lee and the media about this subject. Those unaffected, can make such claims, when those would be, knows things could be much worse.
And that the GOP, Libertarians and Tea Baggers are in full favor of the government being shut down. Not Democrats nor the American people.
alfredo
(60,075 posts)sewers running through town, and the water was unsafe to drink. Flies covered the meat in the market. The church was free to sexually mutilate 12 year old girls so they would not be able to enjoy sex. The strong ruled, the weak starved. There was no path out of poverty.
alfredo
(60,075 posts)Pab Sungenis
(9,612 posts)I alerted on this post because it looked like a typical Lunatarian dump of arguments for their party. It was only after the alert that I realized how you were tearing them down.
byeya
(2,842 posts)Obama and for the ACA.
lastlib
(23,272 posts)...or sedition, or general stupidity--whatever we can make stick!
these fuckwads make me !
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)There have been articles estimating individual premiums to go substantially down as a result of this plan. That seems like a good thing!
AAO
(3,300 posts)I am so sick of the mutherfeckers!
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)That will NOT end well for Republicans. It sure didn't the last time.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)their all gutless weasels