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CountAllVotes

(20,874 posts)
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 12:02 AM Feb 2012

50-Cent Stamp, Other Postal Changes Coming

The United States Postal Service may raise the price of first class postage to 50 cents.

The U.S. Post Office, facing financial losses of up to $18.2 billion a year by 2015, wants to charge more for postage, more for services, and to suspend Saturday delivery.

The 50-cent stamp would represent an 11 percent increase in postal rates.

USPS delivers 40 percent of the world's mail. Its revenues exceed $65 billion a year.

http://news.yahoo.com/50-cent-stamp-other-postal-changes-coming-190143222--abc-news.html

I'm glad I stocked up on Forever Stamps when they first came out (cost me $.32 each being I put them on a 1.25% cash back credit card (which no longer exists I might add thanks to our rip-roaring economy!).

I hope this rate increase will help the Post Office.

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50-Cent Stamp, Other Postal Changes Coming (Original Post) CountAllVotes Feb 2012 OP
I heard they were closing a bunch. ScarletFyre Feb 2012 #1
The one where I live is going part-time CountAllVotes Feb 2012 #2
I am not against paying a little more for stamps bluestateguy Feb 2012 #3
I worked at the USPS for 10 years mikekohr Feb 2012 #69
Many Republicans want to put the USPS out of business. libinnyandia Feb 2012 #4
this shows how stupid the pukes are CountAllVotes Feb 2012 #5
UPS and FedEx CatholicEdHead Feb 2012 #8
fedex uses the postal service to deliver their packages in rural/remote areas of the country madrchsod Feb 2012 #11
Yes, UPS does the same thing. RC Feb 2012 #15
I believe they sometimes do. 2pooped2pop Feb 2012 #35
Not just rural BumRushDaShow Feb 2012 #37
Republicans, like Darrel Issa Art_from_Ark Feb 2012 #12
They like to point out how inefficient the govt is. JohnnyRingo Feb 2012 #20
The same morons who use USPS for the campaign literature Cosmocat Feb 2012 #29
yeah and those morons pay next to nothing for their mailings blondie58 Feb 2012 #60
have they found a way 2pooped2pop Feb 2012 #34
Fuck them sideways. I love the USPS! For real - they do a great job REP Feb 2012 #59
He's getting his own stamp? Already? RZM Feb 2012 #6
A letter with a Fiddy stamp on it will be so bad-ass Codeine Feb 2012 #39
heh! flying rabbit Feb 2012 #48
The title of the OP had me thinking the same thing! Liberal_in_LA Feb 2012 #61
We never see more than one or two PO workers at sites. glinda Feb 2012 #7
Raise it to a dollar. One dollar for First Class Mail coast to coast? Bargain. nt onehandle Feb 2012 #9
+1, seriously. Fedex 3 day would be $15 for the same letter. joshcryer Feb 2012 #17
Yep Auggie Feb 2012 #40
I'm with you. kimmylavin Feb 2012 #49
the only thing that will help the post office is.... madrchsod Feb 2012 #10
The Postal Service Poison Pill... bl968 Feb 2012 #13
How many corporations could, eyewall Feb 2012 #51
That's why corps got rid of their pensions and replaced them withg 401 k's Yupster Feb 2012 #73
Except it wasn't the Republicans. former9thward Feb 2012 #57
Or just bringing them back in house quakerboy Feb 2012 #63
This is a big part of the problem mikekohr Feb 2012 #70
I spent $24 to ship an envelope Express Mail this week high density Feb 2012 #14
Waive the signature requirement. tclambert Feb 2012 #26
If they'd charge all that junk the full rate, they'd be swimming in money... lastlib Feb 2012 #47
About time. joshcryer Feb 2012 #16
Today I mailed a small package from the West Coast to the Midwest. JDPriestly Feb 2012 #18
UPS can be cheaper thesquanderer Feb 2012 #31
The USPS is far cheaper on small, light parcels mikekohr Feb 2012 #71
Half a buck to get a letter across the country? JohnnyRingo Feb 2012 #19
Raise it to $5 - it doesn't affect me FrodosPet Feb 2012 #23
Do the forever stamps still mean, forever? tavalon Feb 2012 #21
I never use them JohnnyRingo Feb 2012 #24
Wait till people have to pay the "free market" price for Postal Services LarryNM Feb 2012 #22
Germany and Japan tried privatizing their Postal Services. Rates about double ours. tclambert Feb 2012 #27
On-line shopping JJW Feb 2012 #25
Online shipping fees aren't necessarily due to actual costs thesquanderer Feb 2012 #30
Take a guess at what the artwork will look like PuffedMica Feb 2012 #28
I can imagine the reich-wing reaction to this nxylas Feb 2012 #33
50 cent stamp and 5-day delivery isn't enough... thesquanderer Feb 2012 #32
Just use corporate logos JJW Feb 2012 #36
Why do mass mailings or junk mail uses the Post Office and not FED EX nor UPS? kemah Feb 2012 #38
Those guys don't do mass mailings. sofa king Feb 2012 #41
And ONLY the USPS has the coverage and network to pull it off ... SomeGuyInEagan Feb 2012 #46
The USPS gives those junk mail mass mailers huge discounts. They are not paying 50 cents Incitatus Feb 2012 #68
About time someone honored his genius! JCMach1 Feb 2012 #42
Damn! You beat me to it! caseymoz Feb 2012 #54
Come on! Spill it! JCMach1 Feb 2012 #55
Here are some ideas Marthe48 Feb 2012 #43
The rates just changed a week or two ago, and not by much, HOWEVER... HopeHoops Feb 2012 #44
I'm more glad than ever that I spent over $200 on Forever stamps when they were 39 cents slackmaster Feb 2012 #45
I get free USPS shipping from a vendor I've used many times. eyewall Feb 2012 #50
This message was self-deleted by its author CountAllVotes Feb 2012 #64
It's one of the great American institutions. eyewall Feb 2012 #66
as,a retired member of NALC branch #47 blondie58 Feb 2012 #52
Rap has certainly gone mainstream in a blink. caseymoz Feb 2012 #53
Whoot there it is! JCMach1 Feb 2012 #56
Still a bargain (and I still mail stuff!) REP Feb 2012 #58
It won't affect me much. I can't recall the last time I actually wrote a letter. razorman Feb 2012 #62
I can honestly say I haven't bought a stamp in Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #65
IF 50 cent gets a stamp, when does Snoop Dogg get his stamp? sarcasmo Feb 2012 #67
Coffee + Spit = Computer Monitor is not happy. n/t ChromeFoundry Feb 2012 #74
Sorry about the moniter :) sarcasmo Feb 2012 #75
Postal rates. PoliticalOne65 Feb 2012 #72

ScarletFyre

(70 posts)
1. I heard they were closing a bunch.
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 12:08 AM
Feb 2012

My Post Office is probably going to be one of them. I guess in a town of 70 and shrinking, it's to be expected.

CountAllVotes

(20,874 posts)
2. The one where I live is going part-time
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 12:10 AM
Feb 2012

That should be real fun -- trying to figure out when it is open/closed.





bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
3. I am not against paying a little more for stamps
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 12:17 AM
Feb 2012

That's fine. What I am against is curtailing service, ending Saturday delivery, closing post offices and firing employees, all of which will slow down service and drive still more people away from using the post office. And then their problems will worsen.

Kind of like European BS austerity that only makes their problems worse.

mikekohr

(2,312 posts)
69. I worked at the USPS for 10 years
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 10:52 PM
Feb 2012

This is exactly what needs to happen. Saturday delivery won't be missed except by periodicals and newspapers. Why should we support their business model?

Smaller post offices can be covered by rural letter carriers for a fraction of the cost of keeping a small PO open. Small town Post Offices are yet another example of rural America being subsidized by larger metro areas.

For every small town that is whining that they need the local post office to remain open because it is the social/gathering place of the community, offer them the choice of keeping it open through their property taxes. Not a single town will take you up on that offer.

CountAllVotes

(20,874 posts)
5. this shows how stupid the pukes are
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 12:27 AM
Feb 2012

WHO, yes WHO, is going to deliver their mail and all of their pornography?

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
11. fedex uses the postal service to deliver their packages in rural/remote areas of the country
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 12:37 AM
Feb 2012

i`m not sure if ups does the same.

 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
35. I believe they sometimes do.
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 09:06 AM
Feb 2012

I've had them delivered and I've had them passed off to the p.o. on snowy days.

BumRushDaShow

(129,047 posts)
37. Not just rural
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 09:11 AM
Feb 2012

I have had many packages delivered by USPS that were sent by companies via "Fedex Super Saver" shipping. And I live in the 5th largest city!

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
12. Republicans, like Darrel Issa
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 12:39 AM
Feb 2012

He's the worst of the worst when it comes to the Post Office. Just google "Issa Post Office bill" and you'll easily see why.

JohnnyRingo

(18,633 posts)
20. They like to point out how inefficient the govt is.
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 04:23 AM
Feb 2012

They always point out the silly old adage about how slow and surly the post office and BMV employees are. Truth is, since email and online registration there's no better public service.

I never have to wait more than 15 minutes to get my license renewed or to buy stamps. Still, the conservatives complain endlessly about how their letters get lost in the mail every day and tell tales of long hours at the BMV while the worker takes her eighth smoke break of the day.

Bulshit, it's about crushing the very public unions that they seek to bury.

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
29. The same morons who use USPS for the campaign literature
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 08:20 AM
Feb 2012

and whose backers use the USPS for their advertisements and to send bills to people.

blondie58

(2,570 posts)
60. yeah and those morons pay next to nothing for their mailings
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 08:47 PM
Feb 2012

Yet it must be treated like first class mail. This results in some OT pay for the carriers, who really deserve it.

REP

(21,691 posts)
59. Fuck them sideways. I love the USPS! For real - they do a great job
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 06:08 PM
Feb 2012

And it is a good job (tough and stressful, but Union and pays decently).

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
39. A letter with a Fiddy stamp on it will be so bad-ass
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 10:29 AM
Feb 2012

it will deliver itself. . .

or die tryin'.

joshcryer

(62,271 posts)
17. +1, seriously. Fedex 3 day would be $15 for the same letter.
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 02:15 AM
Feb 2012

Priority Mail = 3 days tops.

It's a damn steal.

kimmylavin

(2,284 posts)
49. I'm with you.
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 12:42 PM
Feb 2012

Seriously, what the Post Office does is amazing!
They take something from you (sometimes even from your house), and then deliver it to someone's door.

Worth a dollar.
(Worth more, really, but let's start there...)

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
10. the only thing that will help the post office is....
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 12:34 AM
Feb 2012

changing the way their pensions are used against them. the postal service is the only corporations that has to have their pensions fully funded each year. there is`t a business in the usa that is required to do the same. well over half of each years profit has to go to the pension fund.

this was done by the republicans to destroy the unions and bankrupt the postal service. the postal service is not a government service but it is in the constitution under the postal clause.

bl968

(360 posts)
13. The Postal Service Poison Pill...
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 12:45 AM
Feb 2012

Try fully funded for 75 years. The Postal Service is being required to pay roughly 5.5 billion dollars into a fund each year over 10 years to prepay 7.5 years of employee health care benefits for a total of 75 years.

Sec. 8909a. Postal Service Retiree Health Benefit Fund

(a) There is in the Treasury of the United States a Postal Service Retiree Health Benefits Fund which is administered by the Office of Personnel Management.

(b) The Fund is available without fiscal year limitation for payments required under section 8906(g)(2)(A).

(c) The Secretary of the Treasury shall immediately invest, in interest-bearing securities of the United States such currently available portions of the Fund as are not immediately required for payments from the Fund. Such investments shall be made in the same manner as investments for the Civil Service Retirement and Disability Fund under section 8348.

(d)(1) Not later than June 30, 2007, and by June 30 of each succeeding year, the Office shall compute the net present value of the future payments required under section 8906(g)(2)(A) and attributable to the service of Postal Service employees during the most recently ended fiscal year.

(2)(A) Not later than June 30, 2007, the Office shall compute, and by June 30 of each succeeding year, the Office shall recompute the difference between--

(i) the net present value of the excess of future payments required under section 8906(g)(2)(A) for current and future United States Postal Service annuitants as of the end of the fiscal year ending on September 30 of that year; and

(ii)(I) the value of the assets of the Postal Retiree Health Benefits Fund as of the end of the fiscal year ending on September 30 of that year; and

(II) the net present value computed under paragraph (1).

(B) Not later than June 30, 2017, the Office shall compute, and by June 30 of each succeeding year shall recompute, a schedule including a series of annual installments which provide for the liquidation of any liability or surplus by September 30, 2056, or within 15 years, whichever is later, of the net present value determined under subparagraph (A), including interest at the rate used in that computation.

(3)(A) The United States Postal Service shall pay into such Fund--

(i) $5,400,000,000, not later than September 30, 2007;

(ii) $5,600,000,000, not later than September 30, 2008;

(iii) $5,400,000,000, not later than September 30, 2009;

(iv) $5,500,000,000, not later than September 30, 2010;

(v) $5,500,000,000, not later than September 30, 2011;

(vi) $5,600,000,000, not later than September 30, 2012;

(vii) $5,600,000,000, not later than September 30, 2013;

(viii) $5,700,000,000, not later than September 30, 2014;

(ix) $5,700,000,000, not later than September 30, 2015; and

(x) $5,800,000,000, not later than September 30, 2016.

(B) Not later than September 30, 2017, and by September 30 of each succeeding year, the United States Postal Service shall pay into such Fund the sum of--

(i) the net present value computed under paragraph (1); and

(ii) any annual installment computed under paragraph (2)(B).

(4) Computations under this subsection shall be made consistent with the assumptions and methodology used by the Office for financial reporting under subchapter II of chapter 35 of title 31.

(5)(A)(i) Any computation or other determination of the Office under this subsection shall, upon request of the United States Postal Service, be subject to a review by the Postal Regulatory Commission under this paragraph.

(ii) Upon receiving a request under clause (i), the Commission shall promptly procure the services of an actuary, who shall hold membership in the American Academy of Actuaries and shall be qualified in the evaluation of healthcare insurance obligations, to conduct a review in accordance with generally accepted actuarial practices and principles and to provide a report to the Commission containing the results of the review. The Commission, upon determining that the report satisfies the requirements of this subparagraph, shall approve the report, with any comments it may choose to make, and submit it with any such comments to the Postal Service, the Office of Personnel Management, and Congress.

(B) Upon receiving the report under subparagraph (A), the Office of Personnel Management shall reconsider its determination or redetermination in light of such report, and shall make any appropriate adjustments. The Office shall submit a report containing the results of its reconsideration to the Commission, the Postal Service, and Congress.

(6) After consultation with the United States Postal Service, the Office shall promulgate any regulations the Office determines necessary under this subsection.'.

(2) TECHNICAL AND CONFORMING AMENDMENT- The table of sections for chapter 89 of title 5, United States Code, is amended by inserting after the item relating to section 8909 the following:

8909a. Postal Service Retiree Health Benefits Fund.'.

(b) Review-

(1) IN GENERAL-

(A) REQUEST FOR REVIEW- Any regulation established under section 8909a(d)(5) of title 5, United States Code (as added by subsection (a)), shall, upon request of the United States Postal Service, be subject to a review by the Postal Regulatory Commission under this paragraph.

(B) REPORT- Upon receiving a request under subparagraph (A), the Commission shall promptly procure the services of an actuary, who shall hold membership in the American Academy of Actuaries and shall be qualified in the evaluation of healthcare insurance obligations, to conduct a review in accordance with generally accepted actuarial practices and principles and to provide a report to the Commission containing the results of the review. The Commission, upon determining that the report satisfies the requirements of this paragraph, shall approve the report, with any comments it may choose to make, and submit it with any such comments to the Postal Service, the Office of Personnel Management, and Congress.

(2) RECONSIDERATION- Upon receiving the report under paragraph (1), the Office of Personnel Management shall reconsider its determination or redetermination in light of such report, and shall make any appropriate adjustments. The Office shall submit a report containing the results of its reconsideration to the Commission, the Postal Service, and Congress.

eyewall

(674 posts)
51. How many corporations could,
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 12:51 PM
Feb 2012

or would even be asked to, absorb $5.5billion a year in unnecessary expenses?

How many corps would be willing to pre-fund benefits for 75 years? How many others have been forced to do so by congress? (zero of course)

Yupster

(14,308 posts)
73. That's why corps got rid of their pensions and replaced them withg 401 k's
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 10:14 PM
Feb 2012

They don't have obligations to pensioners for the next x years.

The person leaves employment, takes his 401k with him with a handshake and the corp is done with their obligations to him.

It's pretty much only government workers who have pensions today.

former9thward

(32,012 posts)
57. Except it wasn't the Republicans.
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 03:50 PM
Feb 2012

The bill was introduced and co-sponsored by two Democrats, Henry Waxman and Danny Davis acting on behalf of the postal union. Waxman and Davis are two of the most progressive reps there. The bill passed the Senate unanimously and the House on a voice vote with no one being recorded against it. http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h109-6407

quakerboy

(13,920 posts)
63. Or just bringing them back in house
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 01:05 AM
Feb 2012

No reason they should not be fully a government program(again). With a cabinet level postmaster even.

mikekohr

(2,312 posts)
70. This is a big part of the problem
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 10:59 PM
Feb 2012

but as a 10 year vet of the USPS there has to be cut backs. Simple mathematics dictates. Mail volume is collapsing and has been for the last 6+years.

high density

(13,397 posts)
14. I spent $24 to ship an envelope Express Mail this week
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 12:49 AM
Feb 2012

And so far the service has been slower than what first class probably would've been. My "guaranteed overnight" package mailed on the 15th now will not arrive to the destination business until the 21st. Next time FedEx is getting my money. I'm really rather sad because I've never had a problem with the postal service before, and the contents were a loan payoff that will now certainly be short by the time the lender receives it.

Outside of a few packages every month from online shopping, just about everything else the USPS brings me goes directly into the recycle bin or the shredder. I'm not sure how you can make a viable business model out of delivering daily packets of garbage mailed in bulk for pennies to every household in the country.

tclambert

(11,086 posts)
26. Waive the signature requirement.
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 07:38 AM
Feb 2012

I've never understood why the default is to require a signature for Express Mail. If no one's home to sign for it, back it goes to the Post Office, and someone has to find time to go pick it up there. If you want it delivered fast, waive the signature. Then they can leave it on the front porch, delivered on the first try.

The cheap garbage delivery is another sellout to business interests. The Post Office provides delivery for that business advertising BELOW COST, supposedly subsidized by first class mail.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
18. Today I mailed a small package from the West Coast to the Midwest.
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 03:24 AM
Feb 2012

UPS wanted over $13 to deliver it.

The United States Post Office wanted $3.45 or thereabouts.

It was a simple knitted item that cost less than $13 to make. UPS's charges are outrageous. Thanks to all the postal workers who keep the Post Office going. They do a great job.

thesquanderer

(11,989 posts)
31. UPS can be cheaper
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 08:51 AM
Feb 2012

If the Post Office wanted $3.45 and UPS wanted over $13, you probably went to a retail store of some sort to use UPS. Stores build their own extra fees into the price. To find out what UPS actually charges, enter the package weight, dimensions, and zip code into their form at ups.com -- and if you want, you can then pay it online, print out the paid shipping label, put it on the box, and give it to any UPS driver.

mikekohr

(2,312 posts)
71. The USPS is far cheaper on small, light parcels
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 11:03 PM
Feb 2012

Priority Mail is the best value in the small package delivery world. UPS is cheaper on larger, heavier parcels.

JohnnyRingo

(18,633 posts)
19. Half a buck to get a letter across the country?
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 04:09 AM
Feb 2012

I can afford two.

Why anyone would carp about this rate is beyond me. Ask Fed-Ex how much they charge for three day delivery.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
23. Raise it to $5 - it doesn't affect me
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 06:12 AM
Feb 2012

With online bill payment, email, Facebook, unlimited minutes and texts on the phone, etc. it has been years since I sent anything by first class mail.

JohnnyRingo

(18,633 posts)
24. I never use them
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 06:50 AM
Feb 2012

i live across the street from the post office, and I enjoy buying stamps with personal meaning. I go over and ask what stamps they have available, including shelter pets, legendary blues singers, and American comic artists.

Why send Allied Waste and Sprint boring payments?

LarryNM

(493 posts)
22. Wait till people have to pay the "free market" price for Postal Services
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 05:54 AM
Feb 2012

We will be told by the greed masters that you must pay the "free market" price after they destroy the USPS. Then the days of the USPS stamp at $1 will seem like a penny postcard. Just more marginializing, demonizing, dividing and theft of the Public Commons by the enemies of humanity. They never complained about deficits until it was a useful tool to cut social programs.

tclambert

(11,086 posts)
27. Germany and Japan tried privatizing their Postal Services. Rates about double ours.
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 07:43 AM
Feb 2012

Japan hated it so much they went back to government running the Post Office. Interestingly, in both cases, their Postal Service also ran a bank. In Japan it was the biggest bank in the country.

 

JJW

(1,416 posts)
25. On-line shopping
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 07:25 AM
Feb 2012

Fed-x and UPS are so costly that they make most on-line shopping too expensive. I run into on-line merchants charging a minimum of $9.95 to $ 12.95 which really makes buying low priced items impossible. Whereas, USPS might charge a dollar or less to delivery the same item.

thesquanderer

(11,989 posts)
30. Online shipping fees aren't necessarily due to actual costs
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 08:47 AM
Feb 2012

A lot of online merchants consider shipping to be another profit generator. Just because they're charging you $9.95 or $12.95, that doesn't necessarily mean Fedex or UPS are that expensive, any more than the places that give you free shipping are basing that on their actual shipping costs either.

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
33. I can imagine the reich-wing reaction to this
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 09:03 AM
Feb 2012

"It's an example of the imposition of hip-hop culture on the nation by our hip-hop President (blows dog whistle)".

thesquanderer

(11,989 posts)
32. 50 cent stamp and 5-day delivery isn't enough...
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 08:56 AM
Feb 2012

Based on the figures in the article, those two changes would only save 3.7 billion a year, when losses are already over 14 billion and growing. What kind of solution is that? It would only reduce losses to something else that is still unsustainable.

 

JJW

(1,416 posts)
36. Just use corporate logos
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 09:07 AM
Feb 2012

Have employees where corporate logos and costumes. Put corporate logos on all mail and stamps.

kemah

(276 posts)
38. Why do mass mailings or junk mail uses the Post Office and not FED EX nor UPS?
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 09:51 AM
Feb 2012

I hear all the time that Fed Ex and UPS are more efficient than the post office. Then why is 100% of junk mail delivered by the post office. You would think that those more efficient Fed Ex and UPS would be delivering more junk mail. Because the post office is more efficient and cost effective then FED EX and UPS.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
41. Those guys don't do mass mailings.
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 10:50 AM
Feb 2012

If they did, each piece would cost ten to twenty times as much to ship.

That of course is what we would face if the USPS shut down--an order of magnitude increase in mailing rates before the non-government shippers cornered the market and found the "market will bear" price, which will certainly be higher than that.

SomeGuyInEagan

(1,515 posts)
46. And ONLY the USPS has the coverage and network to pull it off ...
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 11:39 AM
Feb 2012

... both UPS and FedEX (or the others) use USPS to deliver their packages to places they don't cover, which is substantial.

Without USPS, all of the private delivery companies would go deeply into the red to build the network they now use via USPS, forcing prices through the roof (though, I suspect, the Republicans would find some really nice piles of the taxpayers' money to give to those companies to bring them up to current USPS network, cause that's typical Republican small guvment thinking).

For all the talk of privatizing, it would actually be a nightmare for the private companies.

Incitatus

(5,317 posts)
68. The USPS gives those junk mail mass mailers huge discounts. They are not paying 50 cents
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 09:45 PM
Feb 2012

for every piece of crap they send , but we have to pay 50 cents if we want to mail a bill or send a relative a card.

Marthe48

(16,963 posts)
43. Here are some ideas
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 11:19 AM
Feb 2012

If there is room in a P.O. building, get a Netflix kiosk in there. P. O. gives returned dvds to the kiosk, films can be marked returned faster locally, and the ship order can be processed sooner. If there are other companies that rely on fast shipping, see about clustering them in a P. O. Our local P.O. is a huge old building, but I know not all P.O.s are that big.

How about having sales on stamps and other services? The P.O. never has sales and maybe people would like having a cheap day to send things. How about having an account to get a few free cards sent out? You buy so many stamps, you get to send a free card.

And of course, do something about the money skimmed off the top of the P.O. earnings to cover health piracy and they'd be all set.

 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
44. The rates just changed a week or two ago, and not by much, HOWEVER...
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 11:27 AM
Feb 2012

How the hell else can you get a physical piece of mail from Maine to Hawaii for under a dollar???

eyewall

(674 posts)
50. I get free USPS shipping from a vendor I've used many times.
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 12:46 PM
Feb 2012

They are in a small town in GA and I'm in a town not far from a big city on the west coast. If I order something Tuesday morning, it gets picked up, driven to Atlanta and then shipped west on an airplane, arrives in the city by 8:00 pm, is driven to my town and is in my PO Box the next morning.

One day service.

The worst it has ever been is two days, but only twice in over twenty orders, the rest have been there the next morning. This is first class mail for a small package. They offer Fedex or UPS for about $15 as an alternative which guarantees two day delivery.

I get angry when I hear people complain about how bad the PO is.

We sent boxes of goodies to my son and his platoon in Iraq and in Afghanistan, every week. It cost $8.00 per box, going to an APO which is like a NY address wherever in the world it may be. A service they provide for our military. Without it we couldn't have done that.

I'm sure the majority of people, especially the elderly, do not use email or computer services like bill pay, they rely on the Post Office. The republicans are insane with greed and are destroying America. This is the best example there is. It's like the mafia is taking over the country when they propose changes to our way of life.

Response to eyewall (Reply #50)

eyewall

(674 posts)
66. It's one of the great American institutions.
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 07:26 PM
Feb 2012

There should be far more public outrage than we see. Times are very strange. Too many couches and too many TV's.

blondie58

(2,570 posts)
52. as,a retired member of NALC branch #47
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 01:04 PM
Feb 2012

I am pleased to see so many positive things about the postal service. There is a bill we are trying to get passed HB1351 to save it.

The unions have come up with many good ideas, but management never goes for them. I have often wondered how many of the top management are In cageoots with the repubs to end the nations largest amount of union members.

Please contact your representatives to try and save this American institition, founded by Benjamin Franklin. We don't need to put 200,000 workers put of work. This includes many families. Husband and wife and veterans. The vets get an extra 10points on the entrance exam, so we have our fair share of veterans.

caseymoz

(5,763 posts)
53. Rap has certainly gone mainstream in a blink.
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 01:41 PM
Feb 2012

I thought it would be another decade before we'd see 50-cent on a stamp.

REP

(21,691 posts)
58. Still a bargain (and I still mail stuff!)
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 06:07 PM
Feb 2012

I still write real letters and mail plants Priority across the country - the Post Office is a bargain for what they do. And my Post Offices are staffed by very nice and efficient clerks - bonus!!

PoliticalOne65

(99 posts)
72. Postal rates.
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 01:50 AM
Feb 2012

I used to get 12 records delivered for a penny. It was an amazing deal. You will never see those rates again.

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