Rick Santorum questions Obama's Christian values

[Bozita]

Rick Santorum questions Obama's Christian values
By STEVE PEOPLES, Associated Press – 4 minutes ago


COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — White House candidate Rick Santorum on Saturday questioned President Barack Obama's Christian values and attacked GOP rival Mitt Romney's Olympics leadership as he courted tea party activists and evangelical voters in Ohio, "ground zero" in the 2012 nomination fight.

Santorum, a former Pennsylvania senator known for his social conservative policies, said that Obama's agenda is "not about you. It's not about your quality of life. It's not about your jobs. It's about some phony ideal. Some phony theology. Not a theology based on the Bible. A different theology."

Trailing Romney in money and campaign resources, Santorum is depending on the tea party movement and religious groups to deliver a victory March 6 in Ohio, one of Super Tuesday's biggest prizes.

More delegates will be awarded in Ohio than in any other state except Georgia in the opening months of the Republican campaign. Ohio and Georgia are two of the 10 contests scheduled for March 6, a benchmark for the primary campaign that often decides who can continue to the next level.

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[Lasher]

1. I'll bet Rick found out Obama's a muslin from some foreign country like Hawaii.

Quick, get Orly on the burfer hotline!

[Joe Bacon]

32. Rick's God is Ayn Rand.

Rick talks the Jesus talk, but he walks the Ayn Rand walk.

Someone should remind that asshole that J.C. said a man can't serve two masters...

[workinclasszero]

34. The so called religious right all worship Ayn Rand and MONEY$

What office is little Rickey running for anyway?

Pope of America??

Gotta have a federal cop in every bedroom in American, no birth control of course, keep em barefoot and pregnant, thats Lil Pope Rickey's platform!

[Lasher]

40. Whose food stamps and unemployment check would Republican Jesus terminate?

[ann---]

75. Love it!

[in venere veritas]

69. I find it ironic he talks about Jesus

and uses Christianity to justify his policies, but his Ayn Rand economic view actually shares more in common with the Satanic Bible than Christ's teachings of love and peace.

[msongs]

2. well that's funny, a witchcraft believing catholic badmouthing another's spirituality lol nt

[RobertSeattle]

3. Yep, since the economy is picking up, they have to go back to GGG - God, Guns, and Gays

Yawn.

[left coaster]

35. Don't you mean WGGG? WOMEN, God, Guns, and Gays? nt

[tech_smythe]

39. nah, they don't care about women

which I know was your point
it's more like AGGG or rather... GAGG
A being the obvious abortion. remember THATS what they care about NOT women.

oh dear lord please protect me from your crazed fan club

[Bozvotros]

71. GAGG...Perfect new name for Republican Party. Now we need a slogan.

Live ammo, live births, dead gays and God, made America free. Agree or die.

[baldguy]

4. Santorum just might be the most radical, totalitarian & UNAMERICAN

major party candidate for President in our history.

He's the face of the American Taliban.

[Peregrine Took]

12. + 1000,000 n/t

[elleng]

30. Sounds like it.

Actually makes mittens sound good better, maybe, at least more consonant with our real values.

[lumpy]

58. Definately he is as you describe.

Frightening.

[harun]

77. +1.

[nxylas]

5. Pity Jesus himself told his followers not to shout about their "Christian values"

I could produce umpteen Bible references about the need to show your faith through your deeds rather than being like the Pharisees and standing around telling everyone how holy you are. Republicans love to wave their crosses around, but wouldn't spit on the poor and needy if they were on fire.

[Bluerthanblue]

6. he's right- "Obama's agenda" ISN'T about some 'theology'

based on the bible, the koran, the talmud, or any other religious text. And it shouldn't be. He isn't the "religious leader" of the US- he's the President.



what an ass Santorum continues to show himself to be. Now, lets hope people actually think about what he says.

[2labslib]

16. I was going to comment on that part, too

But you beat me to it. I completely agree with you.
Cheers.

[madmom]

7. "Not a theology based on the Bible"..of this we should be glad!

[part man all 86]

24. Neither is catholicism or protestantism.

[madmom]

31. I agree!

[tanyev]

8. Whereas Ricky's agenda is about me and my uterus and what goes on in my bedroom.

[Brettongarcia]

26. Is Santorum a real Christian? He's actually a cultist. He is following the new "Pro Life" cult.

Santorum is a "one issue" Catholic at best. He makes a fetish, an idol, especially, of the topic of abortion. There he is following the ideas of the extreme right-wing (lay-operated) "Catholic" network, EWTN/RN.

The emphasis of EWTN and Santorum, on sexual reproductive issues - especially abortion - is so extreme, that they talk about them more than about Jesus, Mary, and Joseph. So that finally? Rick and EWTN are arguably not even Christian or Catholic; they are their own separate church or cult.

RICK SANTORUM IS IN EFFECT, A MEMBER of a CULT. An heretical new church. One that ressembles Catholicism. But that really is a whole new religion.

You might call it the Apostate "Church of the Holy Embryo."

Rick is not worshiping God; he is worshiping the fetus.

[atreides1]

72. He's not really a cultist

Santorum is a Papist...one who supports Papal control of all Christians!

It was term used to describe Catholics during the time of the Reformation...and it wasn't a compliment!

Now I know that not all Catholics are Papists...but all Papists are Catholic!

This of course is my own opinion...

[Jack Rabbit]

9. Santorum doesn't want to be president; he wants to be grand inquisitor

Santorum should run for grand inquisitor. He'd be the best one since Torquemada, I'm sure.

[donquijoterocket]

22. I'm not

sure he'd be anywhere close to Torquemada's league. To be that evil requires a level of intelligence and imagination ex-Sen.frothy mix has never exhibited the capacity for.Doesn't mean he wouldn't try, it wouldn't be as directed or intentional. I just don't think he's got the capacity to think of the schemes necessary.

[Brettongarcia]

33. Worse! If the embryo is a "person," those who have abortions can be convicted of MURDER!And punished

Actually, conservative Catholics like Ricky make Torquemada look like a wimp! They want to convict the millions of American women who get abortions, for murder.

Then what? Roving gangs of para-military Catholic police squads? Rounding up millions of women. For prison? Or execution?

Or maybe - burning them at the stake, as witches or heretics?

By the way. The current Pope's prior job, before becoming pope? Was to head the euphemistically-renamed "Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith." Whose earlier name was: "The Inquisition." It's job is to look to make sure everyone is following the right idea of Catholic doctrine. And if they are not? Then ...

[SaintPete]

10. What I hoped for is happening

Sick Rantorum, under the light and heat of front runner status, is starting to implode under the weight of his own inherent dickishness. I am feeling much better about this sweaty little vest grabbing his party's nomination.

[Voice for Peace]

11. I love that Obama doesn't make up ridiculous lies about opponents.

Truly I'm amazed that anyone, even a politician, can get up in
the morning and look at his face in the mirror -- while day after
day manufacturing & propagating lies & ignorance. They
have apparently lost contact with any semblance of authentic
conscience.

But that's what many do: manufacture a false conscience that
gives them rules to follow, in order to justify whatever they
want to do. A false conscience requires nothing of them except
to believe in those rules and obey them.

But our actual innate conscience in any moment can
show us our own wrongs, if we want to see them; it can
illuminate a clear path, if that's where we want to go. The
only way to become a good liar is to practice every day; &
especially to become adept at ignoring this fundamental
force within us, the beautiful innate.

[stopbush]

17. The Rs are running against "Pretend Obama"

He's the Jeremiah Wright radical Xian theology - Muslim - atheist -socialist - Nazi - Harvard-educated - not a brain in his head - black but that's not why we hate him - Hawaiian - Kenyan - alien - other who is out to take over the world - is totally incompetent lib'rul who was elected by an electorate that was fooled into voting for him.

[Voice for Peace]

19. not to mention untested, naive, greedy for power, unwilling to compromise,

wanting to destroy America as we know it, on and on and on..

I am so glad I'm not them.

[nxylas]

21. You forgot ACORN

They got him elected by flouting the law against black people voting. Um, dead people, I meant dead people. Yes, that's it.

[donquijoterocket]

23. which

accompanies the nation- their point of reference that isn't what they believe it is- nor the nation they'd like to take us back to which never existed. They've got their mythology which they prefer to believe in believing being much, much easier than actually thinking about things.

[Historic NY]

25. He doesn't have too, they' re quite capable all by themselves.

[Deep13]

62. He doesn't have to. The truth is scary enough. nt

[NoGOPZone]

13. "Not based on The Bible." Just like the Constitution, Rick. nt

[Peregrine Took]

14. I feel like I know him as I have relatives just like him.

They are uber Catholic conservatives, in fact I think they still belong to some weird extra, extra right wing cult of Catholic conservatives who out Taliban's everyone.

They (especially the wife) is consumed with hatred for everyone but particularly for ordinary Catholics who she sneers at because she sees them as weak and watering down HER religion.

I find Ricky to be a truly scary person. Beware the fanatic, especially the religious fanatic.

Ever hear of The Inquisition? It could happen again.

[stopbush]

15. Theology = Make Believe

Does it really matter which make believe one believes in?

[Justice wanted]

18. Ricky boy might do good to remember he lives in a "Glass House"

[hfojvt]

20. not much follow up to the headline

so there is one line about a phony theology, a phony ideal, but did Santorum ever say what the phony ideal was? What the phony theology was?

Because I can name the phony theology of the Republicans - it is called mammon (Matthew 6: 24) Their phony ideals are greed and selfishness. Tax cuts for Me, me, me. Get rid of progressive taxes, because even though I make lots of money, I don't want to have to pay lots of taxes to support the society that enabled me to make my money. I don't want to help those lucky duckies who are less fortunate than me. Let the wounded traveller crawl to Jericho under his own power, I am gonna pass by in my chariot. That's the false Republican theology.

[raouldukelives]

29. Yep.

You will know them by their works.

[jbpdx]

27. I am so sick of

Abraham, Abrahamites and Abrahamism.

[eyewall]

28. Santorum is a POS

[Hugabear]

36. There you have it. Santorum wants a Theocracy.

I've often heard conservatives complain about "liberals" not basing their policies on "Christian values".

These people don't want a democracy. They want a theocracy - Constitution be damned.

[oldhippydude]

43. just kind of makes you want to a fasceist salute..

screamin HEIL JESUS ... dont it?

[CanonRay]

37. What a holier-than-thou asshole

He's everything I despise about religious people.

[tech_smythe]

38. wow project much?

that's all the gop ever does, is project onto others.
if he said "me" as opposed to Obama, he'd have it right
the evil bastard!

[sarge43]

41. Psst Ricky, you better read and take to heart Matthew 7:1-6

Jesus had a solid rant about hypocrites who judge others while their own behavior couldn't pass muster. Hint: He didn't like 'em.

But you knew that, didn't you?

[Grassy Knoll]

54. Santorum Walks Into A Church.....

..Hands 3 Rusty Nails To The Priest And Asks Him...
" Can You Put Me Up For The Night ? "

[niyad]

42. and I question your sanity, froth boy

[indivisibleman]

44. There is a another dimension beyond that which is known to man.

It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call "Santorum".

[Faygo Kid]

45. How long until he goes full-on Birther?

I've always said that's the path to the GOP nomination.

The Republicans are nuts.

[Iliyah]

46. Right wing goppers

assume that "God" only love them only. A black man by the name of Obama can't be loved by their Christian God because of what?

A black man by the name of Obama can't be a Christian, because? These so called "Christians" are not Christians in my eyes nor in a hell of a lot of people eyes. God doesn't hate like that.

[intaglio]

47. Everything Santorum says is standard Opus Dei teaching

OD, while not as scary (or incompetent) as Dan Brown made them out to be is very right wing and seeks a resurgence of the most medieval forms of Catholicism.

[Brettongarcia]

65. Literally. There were lots of Opus Dei priests on his favorite Catholic network, EWTN

[muriel_volestrangler]

48. Dog whistle for "he's a Muslim"

"It’s about some phony ideal, some phony theology. Oh, not a theology based on the Bible, a different theology, but no less a theology."

He emphasises that it's a 'theology', again and again. He wants it to be clear that's he's not talking about a 'philosophy', that 'theology' is exactly what he means. But it's 'phony', and not based on the Bible. Which means it isn't Christian, and, given Obama's ancestry and the idiotic accusations that Tea Partiers and birthers already put out there, means he's saying "he's a Muslim - be afraid!".

[cosmichristian]

49. Santorum's Birth name actually spells "Satan" and "Satanic"

I am a progressive Christian who is firmly grounded in the 'social gospel' espoused by Jesus. I respect
the fact that other people have different perceptions of Christianity(i.e. even though institutional Christianity
purports to believe in One God, there are over 30,000 different denominations each having there own
relationship to "the One&quot , but I do not believe that people have the right to legally and socially use the power
of the State to impose their particular brand on other Christian's or on members of other faiths.
That being said, I recently read that Mr. Santorum, in 2008, had given a speech in which he said that
"Satan" was trying to destroy the United States of America and that other, more progressive forms of
the Christian faith (about 45 million people) had fallen into Satan's clutches and could no longer, in his
opinion be considered "Christian"....
I would also like to say that I firmly believe in the principle, expressed by Jesus, that you should first remove
"the beam" from your own eye before self-righteously passing judgement on others; another more
contemporary way of stating this is that "when you point the finger at someone else there are three
pointing back at you!"
It is in this context that I would like to point out that when you combine and recombine the individual
letters of Rick Santorum's birth name--"Richard John Santorum" you can derive the word "Satan" and "Satanic"
SAT from Santorum, A from Richard and N from Santorum; I and C from Richard....
Also, using this same technique which is based on an ancient form of 'divination', you can also derive
the word/phrase "Anti-Christ" Again...A, N, T from Santorum; I from Richard; C, H, R, I from Richard and
S, T from Santorum. I am not saying this is true, but I do think it's a remarkable 'coincidence in light of the
judgmental statements he has made about other members of the Body of Christian believers...

[Jack Rabbit]

50. Gee, I thyought it might have something to do with a holy bull

Perhaps it's a reference to St. Luke.

I used to have an uncle named Santoro.

[jwirr]

51. Wow and that is exactly what I think of his "christian values!

[unkachuck]

53. aren't you being a little presumptuous?

"...questioned President Barack Obama's Christian values and attacked GOP rival Mitt Romney's Olympics leadership..."

....mr. sanatorium, I think what's at the root of your negativity is that you believe President Obama is a Muslim and slick-willard (the rich wall-street Mormon) belongs to a cult and that you have a monopoly on what is the definition of a Christian.

....mr. sanatorium, they are both Christians and you shouldn't let a few caucus wins go to your head....it makes you look arrogant, kingly, God-like and nobody wants that in a president....

[rebel999]

55. Republicans are the Devils disciples, everyone read this! GOD!

The Devil works in mysterious ways. The devil makes you think that you are doing good even though you are doing bad. The Republicans are making the devil proud. In modern times the Republicans have gotten America into every war that it has been in. President Bush has even caused 9/11 to happen. Read my web page at www.mybetteramericaplan.com to see how and why. President Bush and Vice president Chaney are the devil's disciples. The Republicans are the devil's disciples. They make the devil proud. The Republicans ALLOW many people to own guns which leads to violence. The Republicans Allow Wall Street to rob America. The Republicans only care about themselves and how to enrich themselves. Read my web page to see how and why. The Republicans are destroying America and this planet, this paradise we live on. You ALL are only spirits derived from God inhibiting a beautiful body living on a paradise you call Earth. Enjoy the life I have given you but to enjoy life you MUST stop letting the Republicans rule your life because they are destroying life! Signed GOD

[center rising]

56. I question Santorum's sanity!!

[Beartracks]

57. Santorum misses point: Democracy isn't about theology at all. n/t

[csziggy]

73. +1000000

[AlbertCat]

59. Cheesus!

a few clicks up in a pitiful circus and he just thinks he can say what he REALLY thinks...

Teenagers know better.

[jmowreader]

60. I am really starting to question Santorum's Christian values

Well, no, I won't say that...because he doesn't seem to have any. Last I checked, "I don't like this so it goes against my religion" is Jesus abuse. It's time to hold the Bible over Republicans' heads the way they hold the Constitution over ours. In the Constitution's case, when the government does something that's neither specifically listed in nor specifically banned by the Constitution, they scream "Unconstitutional! Unconstitutional!" Well...Rick is against prenatal testing because it offends his religion...I want him to get out his Bible, assuming he even has one, and flip to the exact verse that prohibits prenatal testing. If it's not in there, he needs to shut the fuck up.

[Deep13]

61. Sounds like an endorsement to me. nt

[DallasNE]

63. To Santorum The Only Issue That Matters Is

Whether private insurance should be mandated to include contraception as a covered item. And it all boils down on his reading of the Bible rather than the Constitution. In other words, he would impose his religious values on every American, never mind the 1st Amendment. What other reading can you take from his statement that Obama has governed "not (using) a theology based on the Bible". Thankfully, not based on Santorum's Bible but on the Constitution and law instead. But Santorum has his own problem in this regard. He ignores the Catholic teachings on the death penalty. But then hypocracy has never been in short supply in this Republican field -- including Santorum here.

[Brettongarcia]

66. Santorum's own theology is not Biblical: insurance, contraception, and abortion?

His own hobbyhorse - making babies, and avoiding contraception - is not firmly rooted in the Bible.

Abortion is never named in the Bible - unless it is the passage in Numb. 5, where God orders a priest to perform it. The priest administering a "dust" that caused the "womb" or upper "thigh" to fall.

Contraception? In the Bible, there's an apparent passage on masturbation, the sin of "Onan." But in the Bible the specific message there, is that God doesn't want Onan to "spill his seed" on the ground, but to implant it in his (deceased brother's) wife. God says he is obliged to marry his deceased brother's wife.

But especially? Though many say we are supposed to marry, and are not supposed to contracept, in order to be open to making life,k to make lots of children? Of course, priests do not marry. And do not have children.

[Skittles]

64. very Christian of him

[sakabatou]

67. Oh look, we're heading into the No True Scotsman territory.

[Heathen57]

68. The GOP and their candidate

specifically is that your religion is NOT what you are supposed to use when making public policy.

This country is secular in its laws and they must have the public interest in mind when enacting said laws. There is no room for a theocracy and especially the type that Frothy and his group of misogynists want to enact.

[Brettongarcia]

70. Santorum is trying to force Right-Wing Catholicism on Protestants

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Most Protestant churches allow contraception and abortion. Santorum is attacking Protestant religion.

Santorum's religion is pretty simple, conservative, EWTN Catholicism. His main issue is making contraception and abortion illegal. Which he believes is an idea absolutely from God. He thinks its true - and that he has the right to force that belief on others.

And with this article/quote? He's begun. Asserting first of all that anyone who's theology is not the same as his own, is "phony."

Though of course? It's Projection, all the way. He is accusing others, of the sin in himself.

[GoCubsGo]

74. Hey, Frothy! He's the President of the United States, not the Pope.

His "theology" is fucking IRRELEVANT!!!!!! The job of the POTUS does not involve being a religious leader, you goddamn moron.

[Gringostan]

76. Barrack Obama questions Santorum's sanity. N.T.