Santorum attacks Obama on prenatal screening (he's against it)

[Faygo Kid]

Incredible. This guy's nuts:

COLUMBUS, Ohio - Campaigning in Ohio on Saturday, Rick Santorum displayed his culture-warrior side in full force, as he harshly attacked President Obama by suggesting the president wanted to see more disabled babies aborted and accusing him of projecting his values - which Santorum claimed were not rooted in the Bible - on the Catholic Church.


Santorum recalled his prominent role in the 1990s debates over the controversial procedure that critics call partial-birth abortion. He lambasted the president's health care law requiring insurance policies to include free prenatal testing, "because free prenatal testing ends up in more abortions and therefore less care that has to be done because we cull the ranks of the disabled in our society."

"That, too, is part of Obamacare, another hidden message as to what President Obama thinks of those who are less able than the elites who want to govern our country," Santorum said.


Prenatal tests are a standard part of modern medical care. The Department of Health and Human Services says such tests "help keep you and your baby healthy during pregnancy. It also involves education and counseling about how to handle different aspects of your pregnancy." . . .

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57380887-503544/santorum-attacks-obama-on-prenatal-screening/

[CaliforniaPeggy]

1. WTF?

Cull the ranks of the disabled in our society?

His head is so far up his ass that I cannot fathom it.

There is no way we can allow this idiot to become President.

Recommended.

[LeftishBrit]

10. There is nothing so likely to 'cull the ranks of the disabled'..

as failure to provide healthcare and public services.

[RevStPatrick]

25. And I think that's the point...

...in Upside-Down world!

Say one thing, but mean the opposite. Then accuse your rival of doing what you are doing.
It makes perfect sense.

[area51]

49. +1 n/t

[Justice wanted]

2. He is such a jerk. Considering what happen with one of his children -It being stillborn- he

should be in favor of this.

[izquierdista]

3. One wonders how the Mrs. is still alive

Must have been sheer luck that she happened to be in a doctor's office when her pregnancy went awry.

[lark]

54. Please let him be the Repugnant nominee

He's a 100% hypocrite and it will all come out. He says no abortins for anyone, even to save the life of the mother, however when pregnancy would have killed his wife, she had an abortion. Then to bring the dead baby home so the children could "play" with it is just so very sick. Oh yeah, man of the people - so very NOT!!

Attacks Dems for making poor catholics offer health care to women, how DARE they, but yet says nary a word about Catholic priests raping young boys.

Last time Obama got 79% of single women vote, this time against Santorum, make that 90%!

[Botany]

4. A prenatal screening might have helped to save his wife's life.

If Santorum gets the nod he will be lucky to win 10 states.

[Brigid]

26. I wouldn't want to live in one of those states!

[jonthebru]

56. 10 stupid states.

[noiretextatique]

5. "Prenatal tests are a standard part of modern medical care."

modern wingnuts don't like this concept.

[notadmblnd]

6. so, he's against tests- like gestational diabetes? That is a pre-natal test

if I'm not mistaken?

[nxylas]

7. "His culture warrior side"

As opposed to what, exactly?

[xxqqqzme]

33. That would be the

ignorant/crude/vulgar coward side.

[BootinUp]

8. Why wasn't Ricky screened prenatally... nt

[dimbear]

9. Mr. Santorum, prenatal screening sometimes reveals defects such as spina bifida which

can be cured by prenatal surgery, allowing the child a normal life and
YOU OPPOSE THAT?

[0rganism]

12. it's God's will, doncha know?

we could fix it, but the world needs more handicapped peeps so the rest of us get a chance to show how compassionate and charitable our religious institutions can be.

[HockeyMom]

31. Do they still test for the RH factor?

As when the mother or the baby is RH positive and the other RH negative. That can be deadly, but is treatable.

[OhioBlue]

37. The did several blood tests on me

the Doc and I both knew before the blood tests that I was RH neg - he scheduled me for a shot at L&D about a week before my due date.

[onehandle]

11. Go, Rick. Go!

You can win the nomination and sink your party for a generation or more.

[lastlib]

13. This guy is becoming synonymous with raw sewage....

...not to even mention that other frothy stuff. What a nasty piece of sh1t he is. Do NOT let this thing get close to the White House, America!

I could picture him arm-in-arm with Mullah Omar of the Taliban. All he needs is the turban and the eyepatch.

[SleeplessinSoCal]

14. my niece's breached baby will have a C-Section delivery soon. Thanks to prenatal testing.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

15. So parents don't have the right to know if their unborn child

might have some sort of disability or disorder, even one that could be treated prenatally if they knew about it? Icky Ricky SansScrotum seems to assume that if parents discover during pregnancy that the baby has a problem they will always choose abortion, but that really isn't the case at all. Many, probably most, parents willingly accept a child with a disability but they sure as hell deserve to know about it beforehand so they can prepare for the medical (and financial) problems that they will have to face. And some disorders can be treated or cured before the child is born.

[DirkGently]

16. Santorum's creepiness is emerging like some titanic iceberg of evil.

At some point here, he's just going to come out and explain his plans to lock everyone's nether regions in a radio-transmitting security device, so that he can just make every decision regarding sex, procreation, childbirth, and women's health for them personally.

[mucifer]

17. Prenatal screening helps babies with leukodystrophy be diagnosed so that they CAN SURVIVE

without the prenatal screening you don't know the baby has the disease so you don't get the stem cell transplant until the baby is symptomatic and suffers more and loses his or her milestones. Oh and babies who don't get the transplant scream a lot in a high pitched noise and their limbs become stiff and they go blind. They are treated with seizure medications to calm them. The meds don't always work that well.Oh and type 1 metachromatic leukodystrophy is almost always fatal in the first 3 years of life if no transplant occurs.

So I guess in the cases of MLD santorum wants to KILL BABIES.

http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/metachromatic_leukodystrophy/metachromatic_leukodystrophy.htm

[Auntie Bush]

62. Just because they have a disabled baby to care for...he wants other women to suffer the same experie

The man is sick, sick, sick. He needs help!

[zbdent]

18. What the dems need to do is get hold of the result of a high-profile surgery from

a number of years ago ...

there was a baby which had heart surgery IN UTERO to fix a defect ... and say "If Rick Santorum had his way ... I quite probably would have died in my mother's womb. Rick Santorum thinks that this procedure will be used to ABORT babies, not save lives."

[a2liberal]

48. That's an amazing idea

but not just one, bring out a parade of people who were saved by the testing. Sort of like a version of the right's "I'm glad my mother decided not to abort me" campaign.

[warrior1]

19. again I have to say it

he's out of his fucking mind.

[OKNancy]

20. this is a duplicate topic

different title and emphasis, but the same event
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101455057

I unlocked the thread after poster petitioned.

[OKNancy]

21. kick

[all american girl]

22. Thanks to prenatal testing

I found out that I had gestational diabetes when I was pregnant with my son. Because of that I was able to change my diet,I had a beautiful baby boy over 18 years ago. The worse that could have happened was having a stillborn birth. Hmm...I think that prenatal testing worked out pretty good for my family.

[Faygo Kid]

23. Great story. Thanks.

I have a feeling this may be the last straw for Mr. Santorum.

[usrname]

58. No, no. Please no

We want, nay, NEED Santorum to win the GOP primary. Then that will be the last straw for Santorum.

[Iliyah]

24. Well we already know that Ricky Baby

has no respect for Women nor their rights as human beings. Any talk concerning helping the American people and the ecomony?

Nope.

[deutsey]

27. It's going out to idiot America

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[sandyj999]

28. He needs to STFU.

All he is doing is exposing his ignorance and we already know that.

[stlsaxman]

29. Sancrotum...

fucking insane.

[appleannie1]

30. Does that jerk realize how many lives, both mom and baby lives, screening saves?

I suppose he thinks women should just pull up their skirts and drop the baby between scrubbing the floor and cooking dinner.

[drm604]

32. Another piece of evidence that the man is more concerned about abortion then he is about babies.

I know that sounds contradictory, but it seems like in his mind, eliminating as many abortions as possible has a higher priority than anything else. Losing more babies to natural causes is fine as long as there are less abortions.

[OmahaBlueDog]

35. From someone who is personally opposed to abortion: He's an idiot

Mrs. OBD and I asked "if we're not having an abortion, why should we go through with the amnio?"

The doctor, who did her residency at a Catholic hospital, responded as follows: if you are going to give birth to a baby with any kind of special need, knowing that in advance, and letting that knowledge inform the choice of hospital, may be critical in the child's survival. You need the best neonatology department and the best NICU in these circumstances. That hospital may not be the one you've chosen, or even one within 100 miles of your house.

Mothers-to-be need the tests. Period.

[unkachuck]

36. he's evil....he only wants the rich to have healthcare....n/t

[Drunken Irishman]

38. He can't be serious - right?!?

There is no way he's serious. No one, in the 21st Century, would come out against prenatal screening...right?!?

[EFerrari]

45. If he could find a reason to come out against the lever and the wheel, he would.

lol

[madrchsod]

39. well........i wonder if his daughter or daughter in law had a prenatal screening?

[Skittles]

40. of course they did

he's a typical repuke hypocrite

[Kalidurga]

41. I am RH negative. My partner is RH positive.

We have three children. Two of them turned out to be RH positive. I wonder which ones Santorum thinks should have been still born?

[kiranon]

42. We are all present at the birth of a dictator wan-a-be.

He is setting up his own cult of personality. "Follow me," he is saying, "I'm strong, I have no doubts, you won't have to think, let me do that for you because I have all the answers, you don't need to ask any questions, not now, not ever." He could be a very dangerous man if we all stop asking questions for he has NO answers.

[Danmel]

43. Orthodox Jews encourage genetic testing

To prevent fatal diseases like Tay-Sachs. He is just plain crazy.

[cliffordu]

44. I am speechless,

Really.

Fuck me.

[stockholmer]

46. at some point, you have to admit that the Rethugs are either (a) throwing the election on purpose or

(b) using Santorum to drive this clown car into a brokered convention, so that they can spring an unbloodied candidate onto the scene at the last minute.

I think it is (a), as secretly, the systemic controllers who own and run both parties are quite happy with the left cover Obama provides for their corporatist power grabs and security state erecting paradigms.

This is not to say that (b) will not happen as well. Watch out for a McDonnell/Christie ticket.

Either way, Santorum is a fucking tosser.

[lark]

55. watch out for jeb

That's my nightmare scenario. He's just as right wing as his bro, but is way smarter and can appeal to Indies. He says one thing, in favor of sugar growers cleaning up Everglades, then once the law is being worked on, adds poison pills that totally over-rides any good. Plus all the big $$ would flock to him. Yep, I pray th repugs are stupid enough to run romney dog torturer or santorum - no health care for women, but I worry a lot about a brokered convention.

[pansypoo53219]

47. the planet can't afford his ideas.

and we have taken out darwin completely. and my uncle just lost his severely handicapped daughter. bad CP and she lived past 19. had to adopt her and it would have been better if they had aborted her + tried again. the pain she suffered, that they suffered.
may he rot.

[es35]

50. Santorum and the French Revolution

Rick Santorum is also warning those of us who oppose theocracy and religion in government (like Tom Jefferson and friends) not to reject god from government because he says it will lead a replay of the French Revolution’s Reign of Terror by religion bashing Jacobins and French peasantry who executed the French king and aristocrats.

But this reveals a total lack of historical knowledge by this disguised priest who also lectures us about the “evils” of birth control while denying all of the past atrocities of his church. The reason that the French peasants revolted and took revenge against the monarch and aristocrats is because they had been denied all political rights, oppressed, starved, abused and were forced to pay for the flagrant opulent life style and splendor of the nobility. It was even a criminal for them to kill rabbits who ran across their diminutive plots of land for food because this “interfered” with the hunting of the aristocrats.

The reason that they overthrew the catholic church as well was the fact that the church was totally supporting and justifying this oppression with its dogma that this was god’s plan for the peasants and that kings had a divine right to rule. Atheism did not cause them to rebel – atheism was the response to the cruel and immoral support of monarchic and aristocratic oppression by religion. It was the same kind of theocratic abuse that led to the creation of secular democracies and the American Constitution.

This is pretty much like what Santorum and his right wing fundamentalist buddies are doing today when they fully support the right of the 1% to “rule” at the expense of the 99%.

Many brave people gave their lives to win these freedoms – and we’d do it again, Rick.

[SemperEadem]

51. mullah santorum

and his jihad against anything that doesn't give him his way.

Do not be fooled, folks--this man could very well end up with the nomination. Now whether that will permanently fracture the gop party remains to be seen. He is winning causcuses. If the majority of "independent" swing voters decide that they don't want Obama as president they will vote against their daughters'/wives'/mothers'/sisters'/aunts'/grandmothers' best interests and he could very well end up in the white house.

As far as the "less able than the elites"--that translates to stupid knuckle-dragging emo voters who don't think for themselves, but have to be told what to do and where to go all the got damb time. I'd rather have elites who don't operate from a position of being diminished by all they refuse to wrap their heads around than to have the alternative. Might as well go live in afghanistan.

[tpsbmam]

52. I LOVE this!! Love it, love it, love it!!

OMG, this asshole is placing himself in the 15th century! Can you even come close to imagining moderate Republican or Independent women voting for this POS? Yeah, maybe the tiny minority of them who agree with him on this, but that has to be REALLY tiny. No freaking way! Same for aware men, particularly those who have kids and/or are part of the 21st century. And men who want to be able to live with their wives after they vote.

I have a feeling it'll be a brokered convention if he's leading going into the convention because prevailing pundits are right -- there's no way he could win against Obama given the above.

But I'm just ecstatic when he makes these caveman statements. It just makes my day to know that the morons who are participating in the caucuses/primaries are stupid enough to bump this shit-for-brains to the top of the pack!

[Gin]

53. He's backtracking

I hope he gets the nomination......he is sooooo regressive that he will lose by triple digits.......what an ass!

[usrname]

57. Wasn't his wife's abortion

decided based on pre-natal screening to notice that the fetus had caused some sort of infection or something?

[wordpix]

59. hey Rick, since YOU love to raise severely ill/disabled babies, I hope you'll

adopt ALL these babies once they're born and their parents can't cope/pay for their health care.

And since there should be no gov. health care for poor people in your pea brain, it follows that YOU and your "family values" backers should pay all the health care costs, from birth to death.

[olegramps]

60. He and the brain dead zombies who support this cretin frighten the hell out of me.

This despicable excuse for a human even has gone so far as to say the Obama's theology is phony and then try to weasle of out claiming he wasn't attacking his personally. I can only hope that people realize that he is a member of the Opus Dei cult which is just as radical as the fundamentalist Islamic suicide bombers. Opus Dei is so radical that at their multimillion New York headquarters they have separate entrances for men and women and the women of the cult perform all the menial tasks. I really feel sorry for women who married to these control freaks.

[SheilaT]

61. And it's not as though he's

coming out in favor of vastly more funding to help out with the children who get born with various defects or diseases (many of which as others have pointed out are fixable before birth). Raising a handicapped or seriously ill child can be enormously expensive. The decision about whether or not to have an abortion should be totally up to the parents, not made by someone else who will not have to either have the abortion or raise the child in question.

[Lunabelle]

63. Yes and some women chose abortion after pre-natal testing.

Get over it.