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dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
Fri Aug 2, 2013, 09:29 AM Aug 2013

U.S. gives seal of approval to Egypt's new leaders

Source: Reuters

(Reuters) - Supporters of deposed Egyptian president Mohamed Mursi prepared for confrontation on Friday, and the United States said Egypt's military had been "restoring democracy" when it drove him from office.

Thousands were gathered in two Muslim Brotherhood camps in Cairo, defying warnings from the new army-backed government to abandon their protest or face action from security forces.

At the main Rabaa al-Adawiya camp on Friday morning, young men wearing crash helmets and brandishing sticks mounted a first line of defence behind barricades of sandbags and bricks.

International diplomats, rights groups and Egyptian religious leaders appealed to authorities to avoid bloodshed.

Read more: http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/08/02/uk-egypt-protests-idUKBRE9710IA20130802



The US approved of similar situations in both Guatemala and Chile as well.
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U.S. gives seal of approval to Egypt's new leaders (Original Post) dipsydoodle Aug 2013 OP
Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #1
Obama does love him some coups. Arctic Dave Aug 2013 #2
One upmanship. dipsydoodle Aug 2013 #3
Obama has no choice, John2 Aug 2013 #5
No choice? Balderdash. Arctic Dave Aug 2013 #6
The military John2 Aug 2013 #7
And yet the MB won a democratic election. Arctic Dave Aug 2013 #11
You really think John2 Aug 2013 #13
One dictatorship for another dbackjon Aug 2013 #4
Democratically-elected Morsi wasn't allowed to "grow into the job." KansDem Aug 2013 #8
It was the military, John2 Aug 2013 #9
I totally disagree with the President and Administration on this. kelliekat44 Aug 2013 #10
Bad move. Gives a green light to the generals. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2013 #12
The link isn't working for me. Lasher Aug 2013 #14
Looks like Reuters subsequently changed their own headline which I'd cut and pasted earlier. dipsydoodle Aug 2013 #15
Maybe they heard John2 Aug 2013 #16

Response to dipsydoodle (Original post)

 

John2

(2,730 posts)
5. Obama has no choice,
Fri Aug 2, 2013, 10:23 AM
Aug 2013

one way or the other just like it is in Pakistan.He has to go with the power that controls Egypt, in U.S. interests for the region. Whoever controls Egypt have their own leverage. That is the way the President has to analyze it.

Egypt controls the Suez canal. Then there is Egypt's Peace Treaty with Israel, that upset most of the Arab World. They used to be an Ally of the Soviet Union until Sadat switched alliances. The United States and her Allies are not the only game in the World. Egypt replaced an important ally within the region in Iran when they switched Alliances. So if the United States lost Egypt as an Ally, they lose considerable influence in the Middle East. So the President has no choice.



 

Arctic Dave

(13,812 posts)
6. No choice? Balderdash.
Fri Aug 2, 2013, 10:27 AM
Aug 2013

I would say the US supported the coup through military liaisons.

Obama loves to make speeches but when it comes to things of this nature he gives nothing but minimal words but then is right back at giving the perpetrators of the coup anything they want. Not a real strong message to stop these things.

 

John2

(2,730 posts)
7. The military
Fri Aug 2, 2013, 10:36 AM
Aug 2013

is the power, and has always been the power in Egypt, ever since Nasser took over. The Muslim Brotherhood has never been a force in Egypt. Every Egyptian President suppressed them. And before Egypt won their independence it was controled by the British and the Ottoman Empire. It was controled by the Greeks and Romans because of its significant geography. Ever since the U.S. got involved in Egypt, they had supported whomever ran the country, dictator or not, because of this importance in the region. Whomever controls Egypt does not have to march to anybody's tune. They can kick the United States out just as well as they did with the Russians. They can always go back to the Russian side.

 

Arctic Dave

(13,812 posts)
11. And yet the MB won a democratic election.
Fri Aug 2, 2013, 12:26 PM
Aug 2013

Majority rules, by the barrel of a gun, is what the US likes.

 

John2

(2,730 posts)
13. You really think
Fri Aug 2, 2013, 01:06 PM
Aug 2013

those people in Congress care anything about a Democracy or their own interests more? How long have you been an American? Their motto is Might makes Right. That is why they make Deals with groups like the Taliban or Secret Deals like Iran\Contra.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
8. Democratically-elected Morsi wasn't allowed to "grow into the job."
Fri Aug 2, 2013, 10:37 AM
Aug 2013

One year on the job, then a US-approved military coup.

G.W. Bush was permitted to "grow into the job" during his first year. Pundits and talking heads were saying left and right that Bush will "grow into the job" or is "growing into the job." So why wasn't Morsi given a year to "grow into the job?"

Also, how can a military "restore democracy" when it overthrows a democratically-elected president?

 

John2

(2,730 posts)
9. It was the military,
Fri Aug 2, 2013, 10:50 AM
Aug 2013

that allowed Morsi to be elected. If you don't have control of the military, then your power is useless. Egypt is not the U.S. and a very old civilization with their own culture. This use to be the land of Pharoahs. They have their own culture. Only the Egyptian people can decide their destiny. The military has chose sides. It is not with the Muslim Brotherhood apparently.

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
10. I totally disagree with the President and Administration on this.
Fri Aug 2, 2013, 11:15 AM
Aug 2013

The military is killing people who are demonstrating peacefully. In almost any other situation we would not support this.

Lasher

(27,594 posts)
14. The link isn't working for me.
Fri Aug 2, 2013, 01:55 PM
Aug 2013

Your link leads to a related but different story. (Egyptian police to blockade protest camp, avoid showdown)

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
15. Looks like Reuters subsequently changed their own headline which I'd cut and pasted earlier.
Fri Aug 2, 2013, 02:05 PM
Aug 2013

Details remain within the narrative.

Meanwhile you will find elsewhere that Kerry may have spoken off script - the WH are now backpedeling on this same as they are on the drone issue in Pakistan.

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