Suspect in custody after four killed, four wounded in shooting rampage in Dallas, DeSoto
Source: Dallas Morning News
Authorities say a grenade-wielding man on a shooting rampage in Dallas and DeSoto late Wednesday killed four people and wounded four others.
The suspect has been identified as Erbie Bowser, 44, but the names of the victims have not been released. Authorities say it appears he was trying to kill a former girlfriend. It is believed she is among the victims.
Officials say Bowsers rampage began about 10:30 p.m. Wednesday in Dallas at a home in the 7100 block of Long Canyon Trail, near West Wheatland Road and Mountain Creek Parkway. He killed two people and wounded two others there, police said.
Bowser then went to a home in the 100 block of Galleria Drive in DeSoto, where he threw a hand grenade into the living room before shooting and killing two women, police said. He also wounded two children.
When DeSoto officers arrived, Bowser pretended to be among the victims. But officers quickly determined he was their suspect and took him into custody....
Read more: http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2013/08/suspect-in-custody-after-four-killed-four-injured-in-shooting-rampage-in-dallas-and-desoto-late-wednesday.html/
newfie11
(8,159 posts)Man what's next an rpg?
A Little Weird
(1,754 posts)yikes.
shawn703
(2,702 posts)UCmeNdc
(9,589 posts)Sarcasm....
Lochloosa
(16,019 posts)just saying
hack89
(39,171 posts)perhaps he is in the National Guard or Reserves and had access to the armory.
sure some clown has one out there. Wouldn't surprise me at all.
MicaelS
(8,747 posts)He was a former soldier. Probably stole it when they went to the range one day.
http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2013/08/suspect-in-custody-after-four-killed-four-injured-in-shooting-rampage-in-dallas-and-desoto-late-wednesday.html/
tabasco
(22,974 posts)What a POS.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)CurtEastPoint
(18,553 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)The neighborhood looks like a great place to live:
What a shame for all of them, particularly the kids.
maxsolomon
(32,992 posts)I wouldn't live there if you paid me.
I couldn't live like that, no siree!
I couldn't do the things the way those people do.
I couldn't live there if you paid me to.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)There? What goes inside those houses in that neighborhood, can be good, bad, happy or sad.
I couldn't live like that, no siree!
It's the suburbs. That's not my choice, but living in an apartment is not my perfect solution, either. Plenty of room to live in those houses for a family, though. With green grass, trees, yards, driveways and sidewalks. Those are things many in this world are denied.
I couldn't do the things the way those people do.
I'm sure you don't mean 'those people' in a bad way. Nothing notable or outrageous was likely going on until the guy decided he had the right to kill people.
I couldn't live there if you paid me to.
Unsure if you're referring to the region, suburbia or those people. But then, it's just another day on the internet, us talking smack about people we don't know. Gotta go, have a good day.
maxsolomon
(32,992 posts)off More Songs About Buildings and Food. It was appropos for your comment.
You said it looks like a great place to live. I disagree. It looks like car dependency, air conditioning dependency, and soul crushing Anomie.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)So it looks like luxury to me now. Way too much house, if I had land, I'd put a Tiny House on it and turn the rest all into a garden. Be all solar with panels, passive solar heat and cooking, composting toilet and use grey water for the garden. Have some chickens for pets and eggs, maybe.
When I did have a little suburban home, it was tiny and the back yard was a garden, everything was geared to feed birds and be low energy. When I had a lot of land, it was moreso that way. That's me. It does no good for me to hold my nose and look down on these folks.
Perhaps I should have stated the POSSIBILITY of it being 'a great place to live,' if the culture was more to the way I'd like. I don't believe anything is set in stone, and we know little of these folks and what they were really about. They could have been saintly in their regard for life and their community. All we're being presented with is a caricature of lives now sadly ruined and lost
I see some in suburbia living totally indoor lives with what might as well be astroturf outside. They are being wasteful and unnatural, but have the money to live that way. They'll continue. And these are real people dead in this story, not people for us to throw stones at. Just sayin'
onehandle
(51,122 posts)mikeysnot
(4,755 posts)this would not have happened.
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)leftyladyfrommo
(18,816 posts)This is starting to just get boring it happens so often.
Saviolo
(3,270 posts)The NRA would love us all to become blase about this sort of thing so that it gets less attention and just gets swept under the rug. Less attention on shootings and gun violence means less attention on the results of unfettered gun ownership and lack of background checks.
We need to talk about it every time it happens, and keep the spotlight on the roaches.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,816 posts)of the day thread. We could also include all the overnite shootings that are listed in the paper each morning.
God, how many people a day actually die from gunshot? The number must be huge.
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Kingofalldems
(38,361 posts)to stomp on my 2nd Amendment rights!
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Miller, etc.
Grenades are classified as 'destructive devices', not firearms. Obtaining the permits to legally acquire one is expensive, slow, and difficult to complete. (and is usually only approved for people making them for sale to the military)
Kingofalldems
(38,361 posts)AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)perhaps you meant it in a different way. My bad.
Nunliebekinder
(33 posts)Nanjing to Seoul
(2,088 posts)readying the 2nd amendment allows us hand grenades too.
hack89
(39,171 posts)tabasco
(22,974 posts)Was the well-regulated militiaman standing his ground?
AZ Mike
(468 posts)....bans on grenades do not work. Therefore, there should be no bans on grenades.
When the government outlaws grenades, only renegades have grenades.
Robb
(39,665 posts)...since criminals don't obey laws anyhow. Why pass them in the first place?
I saw a guy speeding on the highway this morning. Clearly, speed limits don't work. When the government outlaws high speeds, only speeders get to work on time....
wordpix
(18,652 posts)That is the backstory, along with something like this about protective orders:
The first time he did __(abusive act)________, I ignored it.
The second time he did __(abusive act)________, I ignored it.
Repeat refrain several times or more.
We both went to jail b/c one of us hit the other and police were called. I was black and blue but he wasn't. When I was asked at a hearing about the incident, I wasn't asked about all the other times b/c I never reported those.
We went to court and by then I had been apart from him for 4 weeks. I cried every day b/c "I love him."
He never went to an anger management program/counseling b/c this was a "first time" incident and he did indeed stay away from me, so the court didn't require it.
Eventually, he found another girlfriend/wife.
Rinse and repeat until he gets really angry beyond his usual yelling, demeaning, dumping beer on her head, banging her head against the floor, pushing her into the radiator, throwing punches here and there, etc. - and kills someone.
Moral of story is that when an abusive act occurs, file a report immediately against the guy. Otherwise he'll continue to do it and will escalate.