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bananas

(27,509 posts)
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 05:49 AM Aug 2013

Mystery particle could shrink your hard drive to the size of a peanut

Source: NBC News

A strange, newly discovered particle could shrink a laptop computer's hard drive to the size of a peanut and an iPod's drive to the size of a rice grain.

The particle, called a skyrmion, is more stable and less power-hungry than its conventional, magnetic cousin. Besides storing data in ultra compact media, skyrmions could lead to faster computers that combine storage with processing power and usher in smaller and smaller devices that have the same computing power as a desktop machine.

Kristen von Bergmann and her colleagues, led by Roland Wiesendanger at the University of Hamburg in Germany, report their findings in Thursday's issue of Science.

<snip>

Skyrmion-based electronics wouldn't just be smaller and more stable -- they'd use less power, noted Avadh Saxena, a physicist at Los Alamos National Laboratory. In fact, the skyrmions require 100,000 times less power to manipulate than magnetic fields on a hard dive.

One factor that bodes well for building real drives is that the researchers didn't need to use any exotic substances for the magnetic film. "It's exciting that they used relatively conventional materials," said Ulrich Rössler, a physicist at the Leibniz Institute for Solid State and Materials Research in Dresden, Germany.

Read more: http://www.nbcnews.com/science/mystery-particle-could-shrink-your-hard-drive-size-peanut-6C10879170

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Mystery particle could shrink your hard drive to the size of a peanut (Original Post) bananas Aug 2013 OP
I love the next step "the next step is making a practical data storage device" With the cozy midnight Aug 2013 #1
size of a peanut ? dipsydoodle Aug 2013 #2
All of NSA's Utah installation will be out of date. Downwinder Aug 2013 #3
Which Means The NSA Could Hide The Facility Anywhere cantbeserious Aug 2013 #4
It's worse: Large portions could be copied into a suitcase. Copies will proliferate. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #6
Who's to say it hasn't already shown up on the black market? Fumesucker Aug 2013 #8
Technology is the enemy Shivering Jemmy Aug 2013 #10
No. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #19
Technology is carla Aug 2013 #20
+1 ^ yesphan Aug 2013 #26
They could squirrel them away in hollow trees tclambert Aug 2013 #7
Where to hide the new facility? Martak Sarno Aug 2013 #14
Think about it going the other direction. NSA could store even more information about us. The Stranger Aug 2013 #23
What makes you think this isn't what will be used there? PSPS Aug 2013 #18
Funny, I was thinking they build the datacenter with this Hydra Aug 2013 #25
Nertz! That 3.5" 4TB I ordered a few days ago just shipped Alamuti Lotus Aug 2013 #5
"One factor that bodes well... is that the researchers didn't need to use any exotic substances" Tab Aug 2013 #9
The Big Print Giveth formercia Aug 2013 #11
Ooh ... quantum superposition. Igel Aug 2013 #13
They already have room temperature superconductors Lugal Zaggesi Aug 2013 #22
Hell, swimming in Lake Superior will shrink your hard drive to the size of an acorn. Thor_MN Aug 2013 #12
HA! SnowCritter Aug 2013 #15
This technological development was code-named "The George Costanza Project" n/t devils chaplain Aug 2013 #24
Well said, tee hee. Demoiselle Aug 2013 #29
My post? Quite literal, I'm afraid.. Thor_MN Aug 2013 #32
Too bad global warming is making all this super cold electronics harder to use. RC Aug 2013 #16
Umm.....wut? n/t AverageJoe90 Aug 2013 #31
Hmmm I am not going to hold my breath on this one. cstanleytech Aug 2013 #17
Oh, please. As if the mechanical factors aren't important. eggplant Aug 2013 #21
Skyrmion is a newborn Skynet. Mark my words...We will have Terminators soon Katashi_itto Aug 2013 #27
I want my flying car tabasco Aug 2013 #28
Now the hard drives will match the size of some people's brains. Safetykitten Aug 2013 #30
Why pick on the Tea Party so much? ChairmanAgnostic Aug 2013 #36
The drives of the future are here already, and they don't spin IDemo Aug 2013 #33
Its definitely F M madokie Aug 2013 #34
So theoretically I could be playing Skyrim NickB79 Aug 2013 #35
Google glasses take on a whole new perspective. ChairmanAgnostic Aug 2013 #37

midnight

(26,624 posts)
1. I love the next step "the next step is making a practical data storage device" With the cozy
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 05:57 AM
Aug 2013

relationship the U.S. and Germany have been sharing over the NSA issue...

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,988 posts)
6. It's worse: Large portions could be copied into a suitcase. Copies will proliferate.
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 06:36 AM
Aug 2013

How long till NSA data shows up on the black market?

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
8. Who's to say it hasn't already shown up on the black market?
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 07:38 AM
Aug 2013

The reason they're called black markets in the first place is because people for the most part don't run their mouths about it.

carla

(553 posts)
20. Technology is
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 10:10 AM
Aug 2013

a prosthesis. Our species is "handicapped" in terms of knowledge, our technology assists us in our quest for more knowledge. Without tech, our world would be incredibly different. In fact, tech is tools, so there are even other species that adapt to situations by altering their physical abilities. Unfortunately, we seem to lack in ethical and moral terms the depth we have developed in technology.

Martak Sarno

(77 posts)
14. Where to hide the new facility?
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 08:44 AM
Aug 2013

If they're interested, I have a suggestion where they could stick, er, hide the new facility! I can think of at least 537+ places off hand, and maybe a few dozen more!

And if they have trouble getting it "placed" there, a by-product of the Iraqi oil we're "sharing" with the Chinese and Russians could be most helpful!

Instructions would gladly be provided...at no additional charge!

The Stranger

(11,297 posts)
23. Think about it going the other direction. NSA could store even more information about us.
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 11:46 AM
Aug 2013

Track our movements in real time -- and just update the Utah facility.

PSPS

(13,590 posts)
18. What makes you think this isn't what will be used there?
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 09:33 AM
Aug 2013

The NSA already has computing power beyond what is commercially available.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
25. Funny, I was thinking they build the datacenter with this
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 01:21 PM
Aug 2013

Or whatever the next step is after.

Yottabytes? That's so last decade.

 

Alamuti Lotus

(3,093 posts)
5. Nertz! That 3.5" 4TB I ordered a few days ago just shipped
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 06:32 AM
Aug 2013

I should have read this story earlier, could've canceled it in time. Those pesky Skyrmions, so untimely.

Tab

(11,093 posts)
9. "One factor that bodes well... is that the researchers didn't need to use any exotic substances"
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 07:41 AM
Aug 2013

Yeaaahhhhh... on the other hand, it has to be cooled to nearly absolute zero to work, and they're going to have to make it work at room temperature to be of value. Otherwise I see a grain of rice surrounded by a refrigerator-sized (or larger) cooling system. All that power saved will go into cooling the thing.

Igel

(35,300 posts)
13. Ooh ... quantum superposition.
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 08:36 AM
Aug 2013

I really hate it when there's something sufficiently advanced that even the wiki blurb gets beyond my comprehension after a single paragraph. Q.v. "skyrmion".

It's worse when that single paragraph is short. Very short.

At least it comes back to "Skyrmions have been reported, but not conclusively proven, to be in Bose-Einstein condensates, superconductors, thin magnetic films and also chiral nematic liquid crystals."

In which case the hunt for room T skyrmions may boil down (or freeze up, depending on your point of view) to the search for a room temperature superconductor.

Odd, it's been more than 23 seconds since the Science article was posted and nobody's updated the Wiki page for skyrmions yet. Slackers.

 

Lugal Zaggesi

(366 posts)
22. They already have room temperature superconductors
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 11:06 AM
Aug 2013

It's just that you need really, really cold rooms

About -140° C (-220° F).

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
12. Hell, swimming in Lake Superior will shrink your hard drive to the size of an acorn.
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 08:28 AM
Aug 2013

I've known that for 50 years.

SnowCritter

(810 posts)
15. HA!
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 08:46 AM
Aug 2013


Took off my shoes and waded in Lake Superior in mid-September once - once! Thought my feet were going to fall off!
 

RC

(25,592 posts)
16. Too bad global warming is making all this super cold electronics harder to use.
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 09:04 AM
Aug 2013

What they can get to work at 70°F may not work at the new room temperature of 80°F.

cstanleytech

(26,281 posts)
17. Hmmm I am not going to hold my breath on this one.
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 09:15 AM
Aug 2013

Been way to make things in the news in regards to hard drives and their "future" that just never seem to be delivered on time if ever.

eggplant

(3,911 posts)
21. Oh, please. As if the mechanical factors aren't important.
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 10:45 AM
Aug 2013

Anyone who thinks that the only reason we can't shrink hard drives down further is because of the limits of magnetic media has never seen the fragile clockwork that makes up the modern drive.

Try to imagine an electromechanical device "the size of a rice grain" that gets constant use.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
36. Why pick on the Tea Party so much?
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 10:54 AM
Aug 2013

It is not their fault that their genetic make up was caused by close relatives inbreeding for so many generations.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
34. Its definitely F M
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 09:08 PM
Aug 2013

Already hard drives has shrunk from the first one I had which was a 20 meg that was bigger than the package that a 500 GB Toshiba USB 2.5 inch hard drive comes in.

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