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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 04:25 PM Aug 2013

Obama Offers Plan Meant to Ease Concerns on Surveillance

Source: New York Times



WASHINGTON — President Obama on Friday sought to get his administration ahead of the roiling debate over National Security Agency surveillance, releasing new information about spying activities and calling for changes aimed at bolstering public confidence that the programs do not intrude too far into Americans’ privacy.

At a time when leaks by the former N.S.A. contractor Edward J. Snowden have ripped the veil from the agency’s expansive spying both inside the United States and abroad, Mr. Obama held a news conference at which he conceded a need for greater openness and safeguards over vast American surveillance efforts.

“It’s right to ask questions about surveillance, particularly as technology is reshaping every aspect of our lives,” Mr. Obama said, adding: “It’s not enough for me, as president, to have confidence in these programs. The American people need to have confidence in them as well.”

Among other steps, Mr. Obama announced the creation of a high-level task force of outside intelligence and civil liberties specialists to advise the government about how to balance security and privacy as computer technology makes it possible to gather ever more information about people’s private lives.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/10/us/politics/obama-news-conference.html

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Obama Offers Plan Meant to Ease Concerns on Surveillance (Original Post) onehandle Aug 2013 OP
Spin away, president empty suit. Nobody cares what you say anymore. PSPS Aug 2013 #1
+1000 forestpath Aug 2013 #5
I hear this attitude on RW talk radio propaganda everyday but not usually here. It must be sad uhnope Aug 2013 #7
You'll feel better is your stop listening to your RW talk radio programs. But your choice. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #16
I monitor. but thx for the advice uhnope Aug 2013 #19
President Empty Suit is a Free Republic talking point. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #10
There was someone here using the term cut and run re snowden today Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #23
I wouldn't know so I'll concede authority on right wing talking points to you. PSPS Aug 2013 #25
Write like a Freeper, think like a Freeper, don't complain geek tragedy Aug 2013 #32
Wow. Been listening to a lot of RW radio, have you? DevonRex Aug 2013 #14
Failnado. WilliamPitt Aug 2013 #2
Watch it, Will. You'll be called a 'hater' or something. nt antigop Aug 2013 #11
Derpnado. WilliamPitt Aug 2013 #12
I've got a plan. Fuddnik Aug 2013 #3
"the roiling debate" my ass PSPS Aug 2013 #4
props to the prez. Ignore the haters. This is a B.F. deal! uhnope Aug 2013 #6
Seems to me christx30 Aug 2013 #28
thank you for your application. Don't call us, we'll call you. uhnope Aug 2013 #30
No. They keep metadata christx30 Aug 2013 #31
How (D) candidates can WIN in 2014: Run on anti-NSA platforms. alp227 Aug 2013 #8
The best way to obfuscate is to form a committee. TxGrandpa Aug 2013 #9
Want to get nothing done? Form a committee and have a meeting. WilliamPitt Aug 2013 #13
My people'll get in touch your people. We'll do lunch. marble falls Aug 2013 #17
Why offer to change the spying if we have it on good authority that they're not doing it? AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #15
That kind of talk'll get you accused of being a RW hater. marble falls Aug 2013 #18
Here's a very simple plan. It's old, but it's been useful over the years. . . Journeyman Aug 2013 #20
Obama has lost people's respect on this. His promises are not reassuring. Skeeter Barnes Aug 2013 #21
Because one isn't enough? Solly Mack Aug 2013 #22
+1000 nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #24
We don't require a plan. Just stop it, all of it. Magoo48 Aug 2013 #26
well, another great speech. KG Aug 2013 #27
Very Very Smart Steerpike Aug 2013 #29
 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
7. I hear this attitude on RW talk radio propaganda everyday but not usually here. It must be sad
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 05:12 PM
Aug 2013

to be so full of hate.

Mojorabbit

(16,020 posts)
23. There was someone here using the term cut and run re snowden today
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 06:11 PM
Aug 2013

No shortage of RW crap memes today it seems

PSPS

(13,591 posts)
25. I wouldn't know so I'll concede authority on right wing talking points to you.
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 06:13 PM
Aug 2013

I guess your informative reply falls under #3.

Worshiper/Apologist Hit Parade:

1. This is nothing new
2. I have nothing to hide
3. What are you, a freeper?
4. But Obama is better than Christie/Romney/Bush/Hitler
5. Greenwald/Flaherty/Gillum/Apuzzo/Braun is a hack
6. We have red light cameras, so this is no big deal
7. Corporations have my data anyway
8. At least Obama is trying
9. This is just the media trying to take Obama down
10. It's a misunderstanding/you are confused
11. You're a racist
12. Nobody cares about this anyway / "unfounded fears"
13. I don't like Snowden, therefore we must disregard all of this
14. Other countries do it

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
32. Write like a Freeper, think like a Freeper, don't complain
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 10:09 PM
Aug 2013

when you get perceived as one.

I'm also gonna go out on a limb and guess you have not enjoyed the same level of personal success and achievement as the President, making your Freeperesque insult doubly ironic.

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
14. Wow. Been listening to a lot of RW radio, have you?
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 05:30 PM
Aug 2013

You're starting to use their lingo dude. Not cool here.

PSPS

(13,591 posts)
4. "the roiling debate" my ass
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 04:45 PM
Aug 2013

The "debate" was over about 221 years ago with the bill of rights. But our so-called "constitutional scholar" seems ignorant of that fact and thinks this is still up for "debate." What a joke this guy has turned out to be.

 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
6. props to the prez. Ignore the haters. This is a B.F. deal!
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 05:10 PM
Aug 2013

This is not to be dismissed lightly:

a high-level task force of outside intelligence and civil liberties specialists to advise the government about how to balance security and privacy as computer technology makes it possible to gather ever more information about people’s private lives.

He's responding to the concerns of the American people. He's responding to the debate. He's doing something. Rock on.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
28. Seems to me
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 07:46 PM
Aug 2013

He is appointing a powerless panel to pay lip service to the issue, but they won't have any veto power.
And what kind of panel does he need? Follow the 4th and 5th amendments. "Do we need George Henderson's meta data? Do we have probable cause to suspect Mr. Henderson is a terrorist? Then, no. We don't need the metadata. And we should not get it." If Mr. Henderson's name comes up in chatter, or in an interrogation, THEN go after that information.
See? That wasn't so hard. Didn't need a panel of Washington's best and the brightest. Just me. I'll take my $50,000 at your earliest convenience.

 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
30. thank you for your application. Don't call us, we'll call you.
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 08:13 PM
Aug 2013

You say,

If Mr. Henderson's name comes up in chatter, or in an interrogation, THEN go after that information.
.
Um that's exactly what they are doing. The chatter is when the US citizens' names come up.

You seem to think this world is very simple.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
31. No. They keep metadata
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 08:52 PM
Aug 2013

For every single phone call that is made. That's the problem. Your calls are tracked, if not the content.
I still want my check

alp227

(32,018 posts)
8. How (D) candidates can WIN in 2014: Run on anti-NSA platforms.
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 05:13 PM
Aug 2013

C'mon, DCCC and DNC, why can't y'all do it already? I wonder if that clueless figurehead in charge of the Democrats, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, understands. She actually voted against the 2006 PATRIOT Act reauthorization and against the 2011 reauthorization. WHERE IS SHE??

TxGrandpa

(124 posts)
9. The best way to obfuscate is to form a committee.
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 05:14 PM
Aug 2013

"The Senate Intelligence Committee will undertake "a major review" of all government surveillance programs on American citizens, chairwoman Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., announced Friday."

She is one of the Patriot Act's strongest defenders. 'nuff said.

Journeyman

(15,031 posts)
20. Here's a very simple plan. It's old, but it's been useful over the years. . .
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 06:03 PM
Aug 2013
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
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