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elleng

(130,902 posts)
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 08:35 PM Aug 2013

Hillary Clinton Calls for Election Reform.

Source: nyt/ap

Potential 2016 presidential candidate Hillary Clinton kicked off a series of speeches with a call to combat what she called an "assault on voting rights."

The former U.S. Secretary of State spoke on Monday in San Francisco at the American Bar Association's annual meeting after receiving the group's highest award for service to the law.

She told those in attendance that her upcoming speeches also would look at national security and the United States global leadership. But first she said she wanted to talk about deep flaws in the electoral system.

She said racial discrimination remains a serious problem and she again assailed a U.S. Supreme Court ruling striking down a significant part of the Voting Rights Act.


Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2013/08/12/us/ap-us-hillary-clinton-lawyer-group.html?hp

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Hillary Clinton Calls for Election Reform. (Original Post) elleng Aug 2013 OP
Hillary has always perused election reform. liberal N proud Aug 2013 #1
What did she do when she was a senator? zeemike Aug 2013 #9
cheep? Tunkamerica Aug 2013 #25
The bird looks like it's perusing something. JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2013 #27
I'll take chicken talk over no talk. TrollBuster9090 Aug 2013 #39
+1 SunSeeker Aug 2013 #41
and in 2004 Mnpaul Aug 2013 #20
Good. Beacool Aug 2013 #2
Kick & recommended. William769 Aug 2013 #3
Great! How far is she willing to go? Cleita Aug 2013 #4
All the way to Wall Street. cprise Aug 2013 #36
I would call it election protection. DCBob Aug 2013 #5
Has she checked in on the NSA surveillance issue lately? I'd really like to hear her take on that Purveyor Aug 2013 #6
OK, but don't take a positive and immediately turn it into a negative...let's hear what she has to CTyankee Aug 2013 #29
Refreshing to see someone bring this up EARLY DLnyc Aug 2013 #7
Thats it, gopers don't want fair elections Iliyah Aug 2013 #8
Here's a link to her speech. Beacool Aug 2013 #10
should be Old Codger Aug 2013 #11
Agreed. freshwest Aug 2013 #21
Nice step. I hope she doesn't think that this one item catapults her into the presidency. Festivito Aug 2013 #12
she's been in public office since when? Boom Sound 416 Aug 2013 #13
maybe it's because she's only just now demwing Aug 2013 #14
It takes President for that Boom Sound 416 Aug 2013 #22
exactly /nt demwing Aug 2013 #28
Did you listen to her speech or are you just mouthing off? Beacool Aug 2013 #16
Mostly mouthing off, but I'll have a listen and check back in Boom Sound 416 Aug 2013 #23
OK, fair enough. Beacool Aug 2013 #33
The entire artical is summed up demwing Aug 2013 #15
Well, just saying that she/we/Dems called for it in 2000. Nothing happened. n/t UTUSN Aug 2013 #17
She sounds John2 Aug 2013 #18
good! Now how about the assault on the environment? And what about jobs and infrastructure? wordpix Aug 2013 #19
I am glad she is starting early. juajen Aug 2013 #24
KnR. You go, girl! Hekate Aug 2013 #26
Good news. K and R Kingofalldems Aug 2013 #30
It's a shame that "voting rights" is even an issue now into our country's 237th year. vkkv Aug 2013 #31
You said it. Liberalynn Aug 2013 #34
Voter Fraud by lawmakers does far more damage to the nation. vkkv Aug 2013 #32
Oh yes, she is running. Fringe Aug 2013 #35
Another sign Robbins Aug 2013 #37
Thanks elleng! k&r Little Star Aug 2013 #38
any politician "calling" for something is just baiting. Phlem Aug 2013 #40
She's not in office. What do you suggest she do other than call/pressure for it? nt SunSeeker Aug 2013 #42
I didn't suggest she stop. Phlem Aug 2013 #43
Yeah, I didn't think you had anything to suggest. nt SunSeeker Aug 2013 #44
ooh Phlem Aug 2013 #45

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
9. What did she do when she was a senator?
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 09:30 PM
Aug 2013

Talk is cheep.
But we have had a series of stolen elections and no one in ether party does anything but talk...and it is cheep talk at that with vague references to election reform, which wind up being more black box voting.

I don't believe anything they say...I believe what they DO.

TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
39. I'll take chicken talk over no talk.
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 09:12 PM
Aug 2013

Spelling error not withstanding, Zeemike has a point. There has been all kinds of election fraud and election stealing, and NOT ONE of the elected Democrats has ever said a PEEP about it (pun intended). Why not? Probably because they're a little TOO worried about being mocked? We've got sworn testimony that GOP officials were looking for ways to hack and patch voting machines; along with numerous anecdotes about computer anomalies that always come out in the GOP's favor.

Electronic voting fraud is one thing, disenfranchising voters in plain sight, through voter ID, cutting back early voting etc. is another. It's not only an outrage, but it's true, and it's a great way to rally the base and shake people out of their complacency.

I agree that Hilary Clinton is probably making this her issue for shallow, tawdry reasons. Maybe she's not sincere about caring about it. But WHO CARES? If not ONE of the other Democrats is willing to make it an issue for legitimate reasons....I'LL TAKE THE TAWDRY REASONS.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
4. Great! How far is she willing to go?
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 08:53 PM
Aug 2013

I hope all the way to state funded elections and hand counted paper ballots.

cprise

(8,445 posts)
36. All the way to Wall Street.
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 05:57 PM
Aug 2013

Imagine it: Voting reform as a service provided by a partnership between Goldman Sachs, Diebold and Walmart.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
5. I would call it election protection.
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 09:18 PM
Aug 2013

If the Repukes would just let the people vote there would be no need to reform anything.

 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
6. Has she checked in on the NSA surveillance issue lately? I'd really like to hear her take on that
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 09:22 PM
Aug 2013

one.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
29. OK, but don't take a positive and immediately turn it into a negative...let's hear what she has to
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 09:10 AM
Aug 2013

say, since she is doing a "policy series," in which she pretty much has to address the NSA. Just let's stop at the
"Yeah, but what about ____?" every time she opens her mouth. Let her get her opinions and her ideas out there and we can debate them fully and openly here on DU and elsewhere. It's only fair.

DLnyc

(2,479 posts)
7. Refreshing to see someone bring this up EARLY
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 09:23 PM
Aug 2013

instead of waiting until 3 weeks before the election, when it's too late to get anyone registered and too late to stop the intimidations, purges, lack of machines and so on that prevent millions of voters from voting (most of whom, surprise surprise, would have voted for Democrats).

The Republican party: sometimes able to get almost one half of the votes, provided tens of millions of potential Democratic voters are kept out of the process.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
8. Thats it, gopers don't want fair elections
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 09:25 PM
Aug 2013

because their base is getting smaller and smaller and plus they have no care about improving and helping the 99%ers.

2013 - with the gawd awful gutting of VRA we must fight all over again. USA going backwards.

 

Old Codger

(4,205 posts)
11. should be
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 09:48 PM
Aug 2013

Federal laws on national elections, state laws on state elections states should not be able to determine who can vote in presidential elections

Festivito

(13,452 posts)
12. Nice step. I hope she doesn't think that this one item catapults her into the presidency.
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 10:08 PM
Aug 2013

She has a great mind. She can list the hole gamut of things that need renovation.














 

Boom Sound 416

(4,185 posts)
13. she's been in public office since when?
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 10:11 PM
Aug 2013

and now it's a problem she wants to take on. When she has no means to achieve anything so therefore can't fail but cant be held accountable for failing.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
14. maybe it's because she's only just now
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 10:22 PM
Aug 2013

at the point in her career when she carries the political capital to create change, not just demand it.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
33. OK, fair enough.
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 12:55 PM
Aug 2013

She mentioned that while in Congress they worked on this issue in 2006 (I think that was the year).

juajen

(8,515 posts)
24. I am glad she is starting early.
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 02:43 AM
Aug 2013

Maybe it will spark some enthusiasm for change. Anything is better than sitting around doing nothing until it bites you in the arse.

 

vkkv

(3,384 posts)
31. It's a shame that "voting rights" is even an issue now into our country's 237th year.
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 11:24 AM
Aug 2013

It's a shame that "voting rights" is even an issue now into our country's 237th year.

GOP = Greed over people.

 

vkkv

(3,384 posts)
32. Voter Fraud by lawmakers does far more damage to the nation.
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 11:35 AM
Aug 2013

Voter Fraud by lawmakers helping their corporate campaign donors while pretending to be voting in support of people in their districts does far more damage to the nation.

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
40. any politician "calling" for something is just baiting.
Wed Aug 14, 2013, 03:55 PM
Aug 2013

Get it half done and I might listen, otherwise it's more "hope and change".

-p

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
43. I didn't suggest she stop.
Wed Aug 14, 2013, 04:47 PM
Aug 2013

I've seen act 1 of this play over and over and over again, been there done that. It's really up to anyone else to fall for it. I was just putting it out there so we could all be better consumers.

But the notion that I give "someone" a hamburger today so that "that someone" will buy 2 tomorrow is for *^@.

We're talking about politicians here and the very fabric of our democracy, I see things seem to be getting worse in my opinion. Obama care done right is what I'm waiting for, jobs...lost cause I would imagine after signing 3 FTA's.

Sorry, it's just my OCD, and my number one hot button is making a mistake twice for all the same reasons.

-p

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