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alp227

(32,005 posts)
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 11:00 PM Aug 2013

Miami FBI ‘stings’ two alleged al-Qaida supporters in Internet chat room

Source: Miami Herald

A Miami-based FBI employee posed as a brother and sister who supported al-Qaida as a way to communicate in an Internet chat room with two men overseas. Now, the men are accused of plotting to finance the terrorist group’s battles in Syria and Somalia.

The “online covert employee” assumed the role of the brother, saying he was an al-Qaida fighter. Then he switched to playing the sister, saying she could help collect money for the terrorist group.

In 2012, the FBI employee first engaged Gufran Ahmed Kauser Mohammed in Saudi Arabia and later Mohamed Hussein Said in Kenya. The men have been charged with conspiring to provide a combined total of about $25,000 to three U.S.-designated terrorist organizations operating under al-Qaida.

Mohammed, 30, a naturalized U.S. citizen who had once lived in California, and Said, 25, who resided in Mombasa, were arrested earlier this month in Saudi Arabia and brought to Miami by FBI agents. Both pleaded not guilty Tuesday in Miami federal court before Magistrate Judge John O’Sullivan, who denied bonds for them after prosecutor Ricardo Del Toro argued they are a flight risk and danger to the community.

Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/08/13/3560692/miami-fbi-stings-two-alleged-al.html

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Jerry442

(1,265 posts)
5. Imagine meeting a couple of political activists you barely know at a diner.
Wed Aug 14, 2013, 11:41 AM
Aug 2013

There's an over-the-top discussion about overthrowing the government and blowing stuff up. Then one of them pulls an envelope out of his pocket and asks you to hand it across the table to the other one.

Bam-o! Now you're under arrest. Conveying money from a contributor to a terrorist.

It is getting exactly that absurd.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
10. Sure. The next time I am stupid enough to not excuse myself from an over-the-top
Wed Aug 14, 2013, 11:59 AM
Aug 2013

conversation about blowing crap up, I'll make sure that I won't blindly pass envelopes full of whatever to whomever....

Bragi

(7,650 posts)
12. Entrapment is okay in Post-Constitutional America
Wed Aug 14, 2013, 01:26 PM
Aug 2013

I'm sure it's perfectly legal as long as law enforcement obtains a secret injunction from a secret judge at a secret proceeding under a secret law. If you have a problem with this, you should surrender as a suspected terrorist.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
3. So, the CIA arms them, and then the FBI arrests them?
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 11:18 PM
Aug 2013

Around and around we go. . . place your bets, ladies and gentlemen . . . which agency wins?



The Stranger

(11,297 posts)
11. What's weird is an FBI agent in Miami is recruiting people in Kenya and Saudi Arabia.
Wed Aug 14, 2013, 01:24 PM
Aug 2013

He is essentially trying to get people overseas (outside of the U.S.) to violate U.S. law.

Then they are arrested and brought here for prosecution.

Let me type that again so I'll understand: He is essentially trying to get people overseas (outside of the U.S.) to violate U.S. law.

What the fuck is going on here?

 

ConcernedCanuk

(13,509 posts)
4. Do the FBI et al not realize they may be ENCOURAGING terrorist activity?
Wed Aug 14, 2013, 01:44 AM
Aug 2013

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like how much can happen -

from the text in the OP

"a combined total of about $25,000 to three U.S.-designated terrorist organizations operating under al-Qaida. "

25k don't buy much

hardly even feed "three organizations" for a year . .

" U.S.-designated terrorist organizations operating under al-Qaida"

wtf does that mean?

oh I get it now, it's that old

USA said so thing.



CC

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
13. Bank accounts, connections, regions, family, institutions
Wed Aug 14, 2013, 01:31 PM
Aug 2013

companies,


I think most people here would fail criminal investigation 101

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