Egyptian Security Forces Kill 30 Pro-Morsi Protesters, Says Muslim Brotherhood
Source: HAARETZ
State news agency said security forces clearing out two Cairo camps of supporters of the deposed president, using tear gas on protesters.
By Reuters and The Associated Press | Aug. 14, 2013 | 9:22 AM
The Muslim Brotherhood said on Wednesday that Egyptian security forces killed 30 people as they started clearing out a Cairo protest camp that has been demanding the reinstatement of deposed Islamist President Mohammed Morsi.
"30 deaths in #Rabaa thus far and counting," said Brotherhood spokesman Gehad El-Haddad on his Twitter page.
Egypt's health ministry said there have been no deaths so far in the crackdown.
At the biggest camp in at Rabaa al-Adawiya in the Nasr City neighborhood in northeast Cairo security forces fired tear gas as police helicopters circled above and army vehicles were stationed nearby.
Read more: http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/1.541397
David__77
(23,215 posts)That's a shame. Why can't the security forces just close it off completely, use sound machines, gas, etc., to drive people out non-lethally?
n/t
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)MSNBC just said 15 dead.
The Telegraph said 17 dead and two cops.
The Muslim Brotherhood is now talking about hundreds killed.
Gotta love democracy, military-style.
Igel
(35,191 posts)warrant46
(2,205 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Bosonic
(3,746 posts)#BREAKING At least 43 dead as police clear pro-Morsi demos: AFP tally
https://twitter.com/AFP/status/367559284663783424
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)10.21 local time Cairo when posted here :
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23691401
Guardian live here : http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/14/egypt-clear-cairo-sitins-live
jessie04
(1,528 posts)I lean toward democracy and the people have spoken.
defending any religious faction, that wants to take over Government. The Muslim Brotherhood is very well documented for wanting to force their beliefs on people. Al Qaeda is an off shoot. The Egyptian that gave them these ideas, hated the freedoms Americans and most or the West had. He supported Nasser, but this guy was too conservative even for Nasser. The Muslim Brotherhood tried to assasinate Nasser, and their problem with the Government started from there. Every president banned the Muslim Brotherhood. This is nothing but a Cult, and they are not going to contain themselves just to Egypt. They are trying to do the same in Syria, and other countries. They want Democracy by religion. I don't mix religion with Democracy. Religion is suppose to be freedom of choice and not forced by any Government. That is what the Brotherhood represents.
jessie04
(1,528 posts)Some people here might take exception to that statement.
As for religion in politics, who are we to judge ?
I think its arrogant to think one religion is superior to another.
David__77
(23,215 posts)You appear to exercise that judgment, why shouldn't we all do similarly? It does not matter if the subject is religious or non-religious in nature.
happyslug
(14,779 posts)Now, in some ways Marxism is an off shoot of Christian thinking, you are your brother's keeping, taking care of the poor, beware of the rich, is common to both, but once said, HOW to get those objects are different between the two.
The same with Al Queda (which is more an off shoot of Arabian Wahhabism NOT the Moslem brotherhood). In face Egypt's other major radical religious party, the Salafi, are tied in directly with Wahhabism (and the Salafi SUPPORTED the coup against he Moslem Brotherhood).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salafi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahhabism
Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab started Wahhabism in the 1700s in Arabia and the Ruling house of Saudi Arabia (the House of Saud) has followed it since the 1700s.
The Moslem Brotherhood started much later, 1928 and in Egypt, till the 1970s (and the wealth of Saudi Arabian oil) the Moslem Brotherhood was the only large international group of moslems. Since the 1970s the Wahhabism (and Salafi, another name for the same group) has expanded, but mostly on Arabian money. On the other hand the Moslem Brotherhood gets most of its fund from its members NOT Arabia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Brotherhood
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hassan_al-Banna
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A12823-2004Sep10.html
Thus, while the two have many things in common, one (Wahhabism/Salafi) is tied in with the House of Saud, the other is dependent only on its own supporters for assistance.
Bosonic
(3,746 posts)CAIRO, Qahirah (AFP) At least 124 people were killed Wednesday in Cairo as police moved in to disperse two protest camps set up by supporters of ousted president Mohamed Morsi, an AFP correspondent said.
The correspondent who counted the bodies in three morgues at Rabaa al-Adawiya mosque said many appeared to have died from gunshot wounds.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5in6QCw1dcYxmL9lxCLmUPl4FzZzQ?docId=CNG.0cc12d3e938322fd7912733247f399e0.621
#BREAKING Sky News cameraman killed in Egypt clashes: Sky
https://twitter.com/AFP/status/367632517643661312
#Egypt: 17-year-old daughter of Muslim Brotherhood politician Mohamed el-Beltagy killed http://aje.me/16KDzk3 via @glcarlstrom
https://twitter.com/AJELive/status/367618163799642113
Bosonic
(3,746 posts)15:43 Egypt's presidency has declared a state of emergency in Egypt, to last for one month.
FROM: http://english.ahram.org.eg/News/79000.aspx
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)It is with the greatest regret that Sky News announces the death of Mick Deane, an experienced camera operator, while working on assignment in Cairo this morning.
Mick was part of a Sky News team reporting on the disturbances in the city with Middle East Correspondent Sam Kiley when he was shot and wounded. Despite receiving medical treatment for his injuries, he died shortly afterwards.
None of the other members of the Sky News team were injured in the incident.
Mick, aged 61, was a hugely experienced broadcast journalist. He had worked with Sky News as a camera operator for 15 years, most recently across the Middle East and previously in the United States. He was married with two sons.
John Ryley, Head of Sky News, commented:
Everyone at Sky News is shocked and saddened by Micks death. He was a talented and experienced journalist who had worked with Sky News for many years. The loss of a much-loved colleague will be deeply felt across Sky News. Our thoughts and prayers are with his wife and family. We will give them our full support at this extremely difficult time.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/14/egypt-clear-cairo-sitins-live#block-520b82cde4b055ecac09ba96
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)The US government needs to respond by freezing aid to the military.
Igel
(35,191 posts)But as soon as the crack down ends the lack of violence will be hailed as a good, solid constructive step in the creation of stability and building of democracy.
jessie04
(1,528 posts)we may be at that point.
happyslug
(14,779 posts)n/t