51st state question will be on Weld, Phillips ballots this fall

[angka]

Source: Denver Post



Weld County Commissioner Sean Conway predicted secession will pass in his county on a 60-40 vote. He quoted Indian spiritual leader Mahatma Gandhi, who helped overthrow British rule, and warned others not to be dismissive of the movement.

" 'First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win,' " Conway said.

Commissioners in 10 northeastern counties have been considering a breakaway since the end of the legislative session — a lawmaking season they said was the last straw after years of frustration over dealing with Denver-area lawmakers' perceived indifference toward the concerns of rural Colorado. Bills were passed at the expense of farmers, oil and gas producers and gun owners, Weld Commissioner Barbara Kirkmeyer said.

"I know from meeting with people, they truly believe rural communities are now under attack," Kirkmeyer said. "There are plenty who told us that we should vote Denver and Boulder off the island."

Read more: http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_23893746/51st-state-question-will-be-weld-ballot-this

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Spread the banner of fetus firearm fracking farming freeeeeee-dom! http://northcolorado.us

[malthaussen]

1. Let 'em seceed, and then refuse their application to join the U.S.

Wouldn't that be fun?

-- Mal

[dbackjon]

2. Make them a territory!

Just what we need - Balkanization of the United States.


We could counter that with Baja Arizona - get two liberal Senators out of it. Better yet - split Arizona in to Baja Arizona, Arizona, and Alta Arizona - get FOUR liberal Senators.

[malthaussen]

4. I live in Pennsyltucky, myself...

... we could split the Commonwealth into three pieces and get 4 librul senators out of Pittsburgh and Philly, while the rest of the place stays deep Red.

-- Mal

[hrmjustin]

7. Yes it would be fun. I wonder if they would have enough to be a state anyway.

[shenmue]

3. What a load of...

This is why we need better health care in this country. Some people should not walk around under their own power.

[Iliyah]

5. Never will happen

BS and they know it.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

23. "BS and they know it."

These people loved Rick Santorum.

They don't know shit.

Bull or otherwise.

[KamaAina]

6. Does anyone else find it disturbing that the fetus' umbilical cord is intertwined with that gun?

One of my dearest, and most progressive, friends comes from Greeley, the seat of Weld County. She won't be amused.

[KansDem]

13. What about the pitch fork?

Looks like it's placed where the fetus can't do what Burgess said it can do.

http://healthland.time.com/2013/06/19/do-15-week-old-fetuses-masturbate/

[Snake Plissken]

8. Welcome to the State of Jesus Land

Where education is a capital offense punishable by death.

[Benton D Struckcheon]

9. Izzat really & seriously their proposed state seal????

Nutty.

[reflection]

14. Surely not.

It's funny as hell, though. Who knew that fetuses (fetii?) had giant three-pronged penises (penii?)

I need to go look up some plurals I'm having trouble with...

[The Stranger]

10. This is going to fuck up Old Glory.

Ruin the symmetry of the stars on the blue field.

[truebluegreen]

22. hmm...3 rows of eight, 3 rows of nine, or something more imaginative?

[eggplant]

26. The same 50 stars we have now, plus one more WAAAAAAAAAAAY over on the right, all by itself. n/t

[truebluegreen]

27. Excellent!

[kentauros]

40. And stapled on, not even sewn into the flag.

[washnwmn]

11. N. Colorado?

Or Southern Wyoming, is here a difference? LOL

[Myrina]

12. Let 'em seceded and build a big, fucking electric fence around 'em.

Gotta keep those furriners out, ya know!

[AmyStrange]

15. What's the pig for? n/t

[TwilightGardener]

17. Probably represents the characteristic smell of northern Colorado, particularly on

I-76.

[dembotoz]

18. oh so many possible answers and each would get me in trouble with the moderators

[MisterP]

25. pork, 'a course! ever seen a GOP-voting area that contributed more than it took in?

[jmowreader]

30. The factory hog farms in Northern Colorado, more'n likely

http://www.factoryfarmmap.org/#animal:all;location:CO;year:2007

[TwilightGardener]

16. Oh my God, is that a fetus with an umbilical cord? SERIOUSLY?

[Spitfire of ATJ]

19. "warned others not to be dismissive of the movement."

[MillennialDem]

20. How about the state of South Wisconsin, not under Walker's rule?

[TheMightyFavog]

35. I'd rather just kick out the suburban Milwaukee counties, myself.

They're the readl hardcore red counties, not the rural ones.

[MillennialDem]

38. Waukehsa, Washington, and Ozaukee yeah. They can form the 52nd state - we'll call it

Dipshitistan.

[MillennialDem]

21. Is that the actual flag?

[Demeter]

24. I've heard worse ideas

but I doubt this will get any traction or sympathy from the greater Federal govt.

[Blue_Tires]

34. It's not even an "idea"

It's just petulant butthurt over changing demographics and democracy working as it is supposed to...

Let them move next door to Kansas if they want to live 20 years behind the times under a batshit governor and legislature....

[alp227]

28. That flag has GOT to be a parody.

And I bet that "state" is going to be begging for federal money and will regress to becoming what it hates...a TAKER!

[EC]

29. They believe rural communities are under attack?

Maybe they should be sent somewhere where the people really are under attack. Someplace like Syria...then lets hear them compare themselves with someone being under attack. I'm real tired of this hyperbole from these people. Every time I turn around there is something else their under attack for...their religion, Christmas, where they live...on and on.

[otohara]

33. Guns

This is about guns and the few laws that were passed recently. They pulled oil/gas into it too, because seceding over guns doesn't do well in focus groups. - there's a lot of fracking going on up there and the farmers are making bucks. Couple years back I attended an EPA meeting on fracking and the Weld crowd was out in force. Liberals walked out in disgust to their delight.

[FairWinds]

31. Lets Call it . .

Don't-Let-The-Door-Hit-You-In-The-Ass-on-The-Way-Out-Istan !!!

I went to grad school in the People's Republic of Boulder back in the 1970's - very fond memories !!

And yup, there are some great folks in the NE part of the state - and some yahoos too.

[Ken Burch]

32. You're not "under attack" just because you don't get your way, for God's sake.

And these assholes would have backed the "white Christian" Brits against Gandhi.

[red dog 1]

36. K&R.....I'll bet the Coors family will provide financial support for this bullshit idea.

"Coors beer is owned by the Coors family, a powerful, wealthy family that funnels the money it gets into hundreds of ultra-right-wing movements from neo-Nazi groups to anti-environmental think tanks, including the Heritage Foundation, which was founded by Adolph Coors' grandson, Joseph Coors."
http://www.corporations.org/coors/article.html/

The Coors brewery is located in Golden, Colorado.

[riqster]

37. Great Alliteration!

"Spread the banner of fetus firearm fracking farming freeeeeee-dom!"

"Effing" fantastic.

[madamesilverspurs]

39. Oh GAWWWWWD!

This is where I live. Yes, it's beyond embarrassing.

The county commission has been owned by the Republicans for over twenty years. They are backed by beef money and oil/gas money, making it damned difficult for any non-republican to make a successful run for a seat. At last year's GOP county assembly, their votes went for Santorum (in '08 they went for Tancredo).

Not long ago Barbara Kirkmeyer, one of the commishes, was at an event in Boulder where she stated, publicly and on the record, that "one-party rule" is the most desirable way to run things. When reporters asked her about that later, she doubled down on it; none of her fellow commishes ever disputed her assertion, making their present idiocy disappointing but not surprising.

Meanwhile, they're tickled pink to have their precious Ken Buck making another run at the Senate. His buddy, Sheriff John Cooke, who famously refused to implement any of the gun regulations suggested by Obama and legislated by the state, has decided to run for the state senate seat being vacated by Scott "Leviticus" Renfroe (who gained national attention for his insistence that gays are the same as murderers). Both Buck and Cooke have been spanked by the state supreme court for raiding a tax preparation service and perusing all the documents in a fishing expedition for "illegals". Buck refused to prosecute a rape case (in which the assailant admitted the rape), declaring that the victim was merely suffering from "buyer's remorse".

Commissioner Sean Conway brought to his office the vast experience of being chief of staff to Senator Wayne Allard, repeatedly dubbed the most useless member of the Senate. Conway and Kirkmeyer are poster children for the GOP ONLY mindset. The other commissioners are happy to support them in that thinking. They surreptitiously slipped in a ban on Plan B, making it unavailable throughout the county. When the public learned of it there was a bit of a dustup, with even the doctor who heads the county health department explaining to them that it does NOT cause abortion, that it is a contraceptive; regardless of testimony from a number of medical professionals, the commishes maintained the ban on the basis of "faith"; took a judge to fix it.

So, yes, it's real fun to live around here right now. Fact is, we have some damned good Democrats running for mayor and state senate, candidates that republicans do not want to see elected because it would upset the good-old-white-boy dominance they've enjoyed for so long. Our mayoral candidate is (gasp!) female and (double gasp!) Hispanic. Our state senate candidate is also Hispanic who enjoys a solid, good reputation in the community. We're thinking that this 51st state idiocy is how the GOP is planning to fire up enough wingnuts to defend against our increasingly energized Hispanic electorate.

There is a method to their madness. We know that they know that this proposal won't happen. But we're taking seriously the reality that this demonstrates how desperate they are to keep power in their own hands.

And we certainly welcome any good thoughts you can send our way. We'll take all the help we can get.

[Moses2SandyKoufax]

45. Good points, and I wish Democrats up there the best of luck, however,

don't the republicans worry about how the rest of the state views these "activities"? I'm sure that they're like most republicans who live in a bubble and assume that repubs aren't winning because they're not conservative enough, but wouldn't they try to keep stuff like this on the down low? Especially since they want to "take their state back", and in order to do that will need the votes of moderates and independents out side of their little corner of Colorado?

[Lebam in LA]

41. What makes them think

they are automatically a state? Wouldn't the other states have to ratify? I'm not sure

[valerief]

42. If they secede, the military will know who to invade next. nt

[lastlib]

43. Art. IV, Sec. 3, US Constitution...

(A document these people claim to adore.....): "New States may be admitted by the Congress into this union; but no new states shall be formed or erected within the jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or parts of States, without the consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress."

I take that to mean that one state cannot be carved out of another state without that state's consent AND approval from Congress.

[cojoel]

46. That is what it said

The only state that was ever carved out of another was West Virginia, which was done at the time of secession. There was a group that was ironically from what is now West Virginia that declared themselves as "The Restored Government of Virginia", declared that the government in Richmond had abandoned their positions, and granted the state petition to allow the new state (initially called Kanawha). The Congress in that case was more than anxious to strike a blow against Virginia and agreed as well.

The "Restored Government" that did not go with West Virginia set up in Alexandria, sufficiently close to Washington DC, for the duration of the war. It moved to Richmond after the fall of Richmond. As part of readmission Virginia was required to acknowledge the legitimacy of West Virginia created from its territory.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restored_Government_of_Virginia

It is hard to imagine such approvals coming in the circumstances of today.

[silvershadow]

44. I'd rather have Puerto Rico. nt