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Newsjock

(11,733 posts)
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 08:36 PM Aug 2013

(Vegas) Metro infiltrates Sovereign Citizens movement, uncovers plots to 'snatch,' execute officers

Source: Las Vegas Sun

Two members of the anti-government Sovereign Citizens movement have been arrested and charged after undercover officers unraveled their plan to kidnap and execute police.

... The FBI calls Sovereign Citizens “a growing domestic threat to law enforcement” and “considers sovereign-citizen extremists as comprising a domestic terrorist movement.” Sovereign Citizens, the FBI said, believe that federal, state, and local governments operate illegally, and members have been known to not pay their taxes, create false license plates, driver’s licenses, and currency. Since 2000, lone-offender sovereign-citizen extremists have killed at least six law enforcement officers, the FBI said.

The Clark County District Attorney’s Office this afternoon charged Brutsche and Newman (David Allen Brutsche, 42, and Devon Campbell Newman, 67) with conspiracy to commit murder, conspiracy to commit kidnapping and attempted first-degree kidnapping with use of a deadly weapon.

... Undercover Metro officers infiltrated the group and met with the suspects about 30 times since April, in the process learning of their detailed plans to "snatch and grab" random police officers, try them for treason in a “sovereign” court and execute them, according to arrest reports released Thursday. The undercover officers had posed as people interested in joining the Sovereign Citizens movement.

Read more: http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2013/aug/22/metro-infiltrates-sovereign-citizen/

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(Vegas) Metro infiltrates Sovereign Citizens movement, uncovers plots to 'snatch,' execute officers (Original Post) Newsjock Aug 2013 OP
I wonder how many there are in that outfit Link Speed Aug 2013 #1
The creepy part is when one defines "liberty" as "offenses involving a child" arcane1 Aug 2013 #2
Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #3
Nativist idiots AgingAmerican Aug 2013 #4
Can you imagine some guy trying to use their funny money at a 7/11? Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #5
I worked for a real sleazeball (for about a week) who called himself a "sovereign citizen" Shampoobra Aug 2013 #6
One tried to buy my property several years ago, even offered more than asking price. He seemed a Mnemosyne Aug 2013 #7
Fucking FBI. Damn. DeSwiss Aug 2013 #8
Seems to me that the media could devote more coverage to this than NSA. There is a real threat here. kelliekat44 Aug 2013 #9
SPLC puts the SC movement at 100K to 300K members Kennah Aug 2013 #10
SPLC has been busy these days Supersedeas Aug 2013 #13
Cops Thwart 'Sovereign Citizen' Murder Plot Judi Lynn Aug 2013 #11
Kick n/t Tx4obama Aug 2013 #12
We have a lot of Sovereigns in Idaho jmowreader Aug 2013 #14
 

Link Speed

(650 posts)
1. I wonder how many there are in that outfit
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 08:49 PM
Aug 2013

Stupid and Crazy never mix well.

Roommates? Damn, that is just creepy.

Response to arcane1 (Reply #2)

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
4. Nativist idiots
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 09:25 PM
Aug 2013

Another right wing terrorist group taking GOP talking points as gospel and KILL!, KILL!, KILLing people.

Shampoobra

(423 posts)
6. I worked for a real sleazeball (for about a week) who called himself a "sovereign citizen"
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 11:02 PM
Aug 2013

I asked him what a sovereign citizen was, and he replied with: "Are you interested in becoming a sovereign citizen?"

I told him I didn't know the definition of a sovereign citizen, and so I had no way to know whether or not I wanted to become one.

He ended the conversation at that point.

A real sleazeball -- he cheated the entire crew out of 20% of our wages, across-the-board, due to a shortfall in his company's profits. Most of us took the 80% and walked out. We were "independent contractors," not employees, and walking out was the simplest solution.

Mnemosyne

(21,363 posts)
7. One tried to buy my property several years ago, even offered more than asking price. He seemed a
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 11:40 PM
Aug 2013

delusional jerk. He made the sale so complicated, someone else listed as buyer, turned him down as I grew worried he'd end up in a police standoff on the property. Weird.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
8. Fucking FBI. Damn.
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 11:53 PM
Aug 2013


- Yeah they look like geniuses compared to the FBI. I see why they're scared of Ma Barker and Jr.

Judi Lynn

(160,527 posts)
11. Cops Thwart 'Sovereign Citizen' Murder Plot
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 03:05 PM
Aug 2013

Cops Thwart 'Sovereign Citizen' Murder Plot
Aug. 23, 2013
By RUSSELL GOLDMAN

Two members of a domestic terror movement were arrested in Las Vegas on Thursday after a four-month sting operation revealed they were plotting to torture and kill police officers, authorities said.

A Las Vegas police SWAT team arrested roommates David Allen Brutsche, 42, and Devon Campbell Newman, 67, near the Vegas Strip and charged them with conspiracy to commit kidnapping and murder.

The two are reputed members of the Sovereign Citizen Movement, a loose-knit organization whose members believe they are not subject to the laws of the United States and which is considered a domestic terrorist group by the FBI.

Over the course of several months an undercover officer documented the pair's plans as they attended Sovereign Citizen meetings, bought weapons and turned an abandoned house into a virtual torture chamber, rigging the beams with ligatures to bind their captives.

More:
'http://abcnews.go.com/US/cops-thwart-sovereign-citizen-murder-plot/story?id=20048512

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"I will kill anyone that tries to stop the cause of liberty."
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Young David Allen Brutsche

Age: 41 Birthdate: 1970-11-06 Gender: M
Height: 5 ft. 10 in.
Weight: 216
Race/Ethnicity: White
Hair Color: Brown
Eye Color: Brown
Alias(es): David Brutsche
Identifying Marks: WRIST, RIGHT; WRIST, LEFT; ABDOMEN; NECK; FACE, NONSPECIFIC;

Offense: INDECENT EXPOSURE

http://www.sorarchives.com/offender/view/962615

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Race: WHITE
Sex: Male Eyes: BROWN
Height: 5'10 Hair: BROWN
Weight 220 lbs. Age/DOB: 1970

Offense/Statute: LEWD/LASCIV ACTS W/CHILD U/14 Conviction Date: 04 October 1993

Offense/Statute: INDECENT EXPOSURE W/PRIOR CONVICTION Conviction Date: 03 May 2001

Alias(es)

BRUTSCHE, DAVID JR
BRUTSCHE, DAVID
WILLIAMS, GREG
BRUTSCHE, DACID ALAN
WILLIAMS, GREG ALAN
BRUTSCHE, DAVID ALLEN JR

http://www.homefacts.com/offender-detail/NV1002851688/David-Allen-Brutsche.html

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Gender:
M

Age:
42

Height:
6'00''

Weight:
230lbs

Race:
Caucasian

Arrest Date:
1993-10-07

JustMugshots ID:
13890871

Charges:
288(a) - LEWD OR LASCIVIOUS ACTS WITH CHILD UNDER 14 YEARS 10/07/1993 LEWD/LASC ACT W/CHLD U/14 93 CA
B314.1 - INDECENT EXPOSURE WITH PRIOR CONVICTION FOR THIS OFFENSE 05/03/2001 INDEC EXP W/PRIOR 01 CA

http://www.justmugshots.com/nevada/mesquite/13890871

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Police in Vegas say plot to kill officers thwarted
KEN RITTER 10 hours ago

LAS VEGAS (AP) — A couple spent hundreds of hours over four months plotting to abduct, torture and kill Las Vegas police officers as a way to attract attention to their anti-authority "sovereign citizens" movement, police said.

David Allen Brutsche and Devon Campbell Newman attended training sessions about sovereign citizen philosophy, shopped for guns, found a vacant house and rigged it to bind captives to cross beams during interrogation, and recorded videos to explain their actions and why officers had to die.

At every step, police said Thursday, an undercover officer was with them, documenting and recording the alleged plot.

Newman, 67, of Las Vegas was a bit nervous, according to a police report. She asked at one meeting to unplug the television because she thought authorities could use it to listen to their conversations.

Brutsche 42, an ex-con child sex offender from California, practiced stalking Newman, posing as a police officer and putting a gun to her head to take her into custody, the report said.

More:
http://news.yahoo.com/police-vegas-plot-kill-officers-thwarted-081714555.html

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
14. We have a lot of Sovereigns in Idaho
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 05:26 PM
Aug 2013
http://www.bonnercountydailybee.com/news/local/article_1f62f0c6-ba70-11e0-bbf6-001cc4c002e0.html

http://www.bonnercountydailybee.com/news/local/article_bc22021e-61df-11e1-86ce-001871e3ce6c.html?TNNoMobile

The two northernmost counties in Idaho are Bonner and Boundary. Bonner County is THICK with sovereigns. The terrain is complex and the sheriff's office is very small.

There aren't very many sovereigns in Boundary County; this I attribute to Boundary's location abutting the Canadian border. Federal agents have very low tolerance for antigovernment whackjobs, and Customs and Border Protection has a fairly good presence up there. The Bonner County cops generally stay the hell away from sovereigns unless they commit a violent crime against a non-sovereign, so the sovereigns make their coin by cooking meth, trading in illegal firearms, and other illicit activities. The prosecutor's office and sheriff's office are not equipped to deal with too many sovereign legal filings.
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