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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 09:27 PM Aug 2013

Jerry Brown Considers Prison Alliance Between Private Company, Union

Source: Huffington Post

California Gov. Jerry Brown (D) has no intention of releasing state prisoners convicted of nonviolent drug offenses, despite a federal court order requiring the state to reduce its prison population by the end of the year, sources told HuffPost. Instead, Brown and legislative leaders are discussing a proposal to create an unconventional partnership between the state's powerful prison guard union and the nation's largest private prison corporation -- an alliance that may permanently expand California's prison system while curbing nascent efforts to reduce the state's mass incarceration of nonviolent offenders.

Under the plan, one of several the governor has proposed in conversations with legislative leaders in recent weeks, the for-profit prison giant Corrections Corporation of America would lease one or more of its prisons to the state, which would in turn use California prison guards and other public employees to staff the company’s facilities.

By transferring state prisoners to these privately owned structures, the state would have enough space to comply with an order by a panel of federal judges in 2009 that said overcrowded state prisons were jeopardizing the health and safety of inmates. The order, which the U.S. Supreme Court this month refused to review, requires the state to reduce the population of state prisons by about 10,000 inmates by Dec. 31.

Critics of Brown's proposal include prison reform advocates and champions of the state’s beleaguered social safety net programs, who may lose funding as state payments for the prison expansion rise. The governor’s proposals, which also include sending California inmates to out-of-state prisons and county jails, could cost the state $300 million to $800 million each year, by various estimates.


Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/22/jerry-brown-prisons-private_n_3799519.html

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Jerry Brown Considers Prison Alliance Between Private Company, Union (Original Post) onehandle Aug 2013 OP
another shiny object has crossed Jerry's path.... mike_c Aug 2013 #1
I wouldn't trust the Huffington Post article. Try this LA Times piece with updates and corrections: NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #2
Huff n' Puff poo DainBramaged Aug 2013 #3
Huffington Poo! NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #4
He still needs to get it through the State Legislature rpannier Aug 2013 #5
to hell with any democrats who support privatized prisons in any shape or form. they are dis- msongs Aug 2013 #6
Agreed! FiveGoodMen Aug 2013 #14
Follow the money LiberalFighter Aug 2013 #19
I didn't see this part in the LA story Politicalboi Aug 2013 #7
This coming from a Democrat? blackspade Aug 2013 #8
Jerry Brown would rather build prisons than schools davidn3600 Aug 2013 #9
It took a lot of two term Republican Governors Mr.Bill Aug 2013 #13
Well thank goodness! Tumbulu Aug 2013 #10
Don't CA Democrats control Gov. Assembly and Senate annm4peace Aug 2013 #11
In this past election we finally got the Tumbulu Aug 2013 #16
Democrats have 2/3s majority in both Houses of the CA legislature. former9thward Aug 2013 #15
see my post above nt Tumbulu Aug 2013 #17
Sorry but to blame Rs in CA is just silly. former9thward Aug 2013 #18
Are you here in CA? Tumbulu Aug 2013 #20
And on this board keep saying Brown should run for president Kelvin Mace Aug 2013 #12

rpannier

(24,328 posts)
5. He still needs to get it through the State Legislature
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 10:09 PM
Aug 2013

Reading the Times article it seems unlikely that will happen.

msongs

(67,369 posts)
6. to hell with any democrats who support privatized prisons in any shape or form. they are dis-
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 11:03 PM
Aug 2013

gusting, both privatized for profit incarceration and politicians who advocate it

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
7. I didn't see this part in the LA story
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 11:29 PM
Aug 2013

California Gov. Jerry Brown (D) has no intention of releasing state prisoners convicted of nonviolent drug offenses, despite a federal court order requiring the state to reduce its prison population by the end of the year, sources told HuffPost.

That alone would probably reduce the number by over half, and they wouldn't need more prisons. So hopefully this won't pass. And how can they move prisoners to other states if they did not commit any crimes there. When released, do they pay your way back? This stinks to high heaven. I thought Moonbeam was smarter than that. He should release ALL non violent Marijuana and Cocaine violators.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
9. Jerry Brown would rather build prisons than schools
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 12:58 AM
Aug 2013

California spends nearly $50,000 to incarcerate one inmate per year. And the state spends $9,000 to educate one child per year.

And Jerry Brown would rather put money to keep people in prison than to educate children.

The prison industrial complex in this country is out of control.

Mr.Bill

(24,253 posts)
13. It took a lot of two term Republican Governors
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 04:26 PM
Aug 2013

to get California into the mess it is in. Jerry Brown can't fix it all in one term.

Tumbulu

(6,268 posts)
10. Well thank goodness!
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 01:01 AM
Aug 2013

Look, you folk from out of state, it takes A LOT to get convicted of something in CA and the violent offenders are always released too soon. Often they are convicted of the drug crime, but only because there was not enough evidence on the violent one.

The republicans have refused to allow us to raise taxes to pay for more prisons to be built (2/3 majority needed to raise any taxes), which they then use to beat us up for letting violent people back out on the streets.

Tumbulu

(6,268 posts)
16. In this past election we finally got the
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 01:59 AM
Aug 2013

votes, but then an oil company hired a dem from Shafter CA, who resigned and the 2/3 majority is gone for the time being.

The state has been held hostage by these republicans for way too long and mere months will not resolve the problem.

Also, in general, it is not the democratic party's biggest issue- to work on prisons- the focus has been on saving the school system which has been decimated by the long reign of terror from the republicans.

former9thward

(31,949 posts)
18. Sorry but to blame Rs in CA is just silly.
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 11:10 AM
Aug 2013

Democrats have control of the legislature, CA supreme court and governor. They could have raised taxes before someone "was hired by an oil company". At some point we have to stop blaming other people.

Tumbulu

(6,268 posts)
20. Are you here in CA?
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 12:25 AM
Aug 2013

Do you have any idea how much pain these republican have put us through? 2/3 majorities in both houses to raise any taxes and we only had a few weeks before this "democrat" resigned to take the oil job thus losing the very slim majority?

Control is not enough with this states bizarre requirement of 2/3 majorities in both houses in order to raise any taxes or fees.

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