AP source: DHS employee behind racist website
Source: AP
WASHINGTON (AP) A Homeland Security employee is the operator of a racist website predicting and advocating a race war, a department official said Thursday.
Ayo Kimathi, who is an acquisitions officer for Immigration and Customs Enforcement, operates the site, War on the Horizon, which includes descriptions of an "unavoidable, inevitable clash with the white race." Kimathi is black.
The DHS official spoke on the condition of anonymity because the official was not authorized to discuss the case publicly.
While many of the postings on Kimathi's site are inflammatory, it was not immediately clear whether they cross the legal threshold into unprotected hate speech, and the posts may not violate DHS policies if he does not curate the website at work or espouse the ideologies in the office.
Read more: http://www.chron.com/news/politics/article/AP-source-DHS-employee-behind-racist-website-4753877.php?cmpid=hpbn
joshcryer
(62,269 posts)Had to close it 2 minutes into their documentary decrying the "US's sexual cultural imperialism." ie, giving out free condoms = bad. Supporting homosexual rights = bad. Being against rape culture = bad.
Pterodactyl
(1,687 posts)dawn frenzy adams
(429 posts)No!
grantcart
(53,061 posts)The bar for employees is about the same as normal employment.
Officers or agents have extensive background checks. Their credit is checked. They go to 4 month academies where they are provoked to see if they have emotional triggers or racial biases.
After they finish the academy they are on extended probation where anything like this would be used to get rid of them.
After that they are scrutinized regularly by internal affairs, but they are mostly looking for people that would be susceptible to bribes or intimidation from the cartel.
Nevertheless even at the agent and officer level there are cases of bad agents/officers, but it is very rare.
They are always looking out for misbehavior.
penultimate
(1,110 posts)He's a GS-14 and makes about $115,000/yr according to the records here http://php.app.com/fed_employees12/details.php?recordID=477556
grantcart
(53,061 posts)what the article indicated.
He is not, however, law enforcement.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)Is This Homeland Security Employee Advocating a Race War?
http://www.mediaite.com/online/is-this-homeland-security-employee-advocating-a-race-war/
Supersedeas
(20,630 posts)kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)xocet
(3,871 posts)By ALICIA A. CALDWELL, Associated Press | August 22, 2013 | Updated: August 22, 2013 8:43pm
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The Southern Poverty Law Center, which monitors hate groups, first reported on Kimathi on Wednesday.
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http://www.chron.com/news/politics/article/AP-source-DHS-employee-behind-racist-website-4753877.php?cmpid=hpbn
Don Terry on August 21, 2013, Posted in Anti-White
By day, Ayo Kimathi works for the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) as a small business specialist in a unit that buys such items as handcuffs, ammunition and guns.
Off-duty, he calls himself the Irritated Genie. Hes a gay-bashing, revenge-seeking black nationalist who advocates on his website War on the Horizon the mass murder of whites and the ethnic cleansing of black-skinned Uncle Tom race traitors.
Warfare is eminent, the website declares, and in order for Black people to survive the 21st century, we are going to have to kill a lot of whites more than our Christian hearts can possibly count.
A former supervisor of Kimathis at the DHS told Hatewatch, Everybody in the office is afraid of him.
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http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2013/08/21/dhs-employee-promotes-race-war-in-spare-time-advocates-mass-murder-of-whites/
Do you intend to suggest that the SPLC has ties to the NSA surveillance operation?
FreedRadical
(518 posts)he's the only one huh? All I can say is if you are Black watch out if you are ever in some parts of Idaho where (*) summers. I believe you can find ads in the dailies for this kind of thing. And I'm sure it is not some crazy black dude with a nutty website.
I'm sorry though, I don't think I care enough to try to prove that.
branford
(4,462 posts)Based upon the article, his statements, although disgusting, appear to be protected by the First Amendment, and he would have violated no enforceable policy unless DHS can conclusively prove that he worked on the website while at work or using government equipment.
Absent new information, my prediction is that DHS will ultimately pay him a large sum of money to simply go away and avoid further embarrassment to the Department. Ironically, if he is a member of a public employee union, they would have a fiduciary duty to fight to protect him.
These bigots pop-up in federal and state government jobs on a fairly regular basis. If they are shrewd, they avoid the obvious pitfalls like using government equipment or wearing a uniform out in public while spewing their filth, and leave government officials between a rock and a hard place.
Javaman
(62,507 posts)yes, I'm being sarcastic.
but given the history of HLS, it's really not all that far off the mark.
this story only reaffirms my belief that HLS is the pet project of the republican well connected. It serves no purpose than to continue to dazzle the public with bullshit while it goes along and continues to rob us blind of our tax dollars.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)NYC lieutenant, how they dealt with assholes like this when I heard about a white racist with a website in the NYPD.
He just said "We have ways-- they're trouble and they don't stay around long."
Being as how Homeland Security seems to have a much higher idiot factor than the NYPD, let's see how this plays out.
branford
(4,462 posts)Those "ways" are not nearly as dramatic as you suggest. First, many cops often support the bigots, not so much because of their views but simply as they are friends and colleagues. Cops, particularly the NYCP, close ranks very quickly.
Threats and violence are also rarely employed. Make even a small mistake, and its a quick trip to retirement without a pension. Harass another cop, even a bigot who technically broke no laws or rules, and you end-up with a disciplinary record that could affect promotion, or worse, you'll be a witness in a civil suit.
Often the both the brass and rank-and-file talk very tough, and claim the bigot left without any direct deal. However, the City often makes a deal and pays the Union, who then pays a settlement to the bigot to leave. Plausible deniability protects the people involved politically, and gets rid of the bigot. The problem is the taxpayers are still left on the hook for the settlement.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)agentS
(1,325 posts)If you read the site, you know which one I'm talking about.
Enrique
(27,461 posts)and they can't fire this guy from freaking Homeland Security?
forestpath
(3,102 posts)If I hadn't already soured on Obama, the way he treated Shirley Sherrod would have done the trick for all time.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)branford
(4,462 posts)hughee99
(16,113 posts)forestpath
(3,102 posts)hughee99
(16,113 posts)They could always ask this guy to resign. My guess is that he would not.
forestpath
(3,102 posts)tantamount to firing her as far as I'm concerned, especially the unbelievably cruel kneejerk way they did it.
hughee99
(16,113 posts)They CAN do the same thing to this guy. There's nothing to prevent anyone from asking, or even pressuring this guy to resign. If he does it willingly like Ms. Sherrod did, then it's easy. If he doesn't go willingly, they may find they have difficulty actually firing him. Ms. Sherrod could have certainly put up more of a fight if she had chosen to, but it might seriously hurt her longer term career goals. If I understand correctly, she was offered a job by the USDA shortly after her resignation and turned it down instead taking a consulting position with them. If she's not a "team player", she never gets that offer.
forestpath
(3,102 posts)Continuing this conversation with somebody who refuses to acknowledge the facts.
hughee99
(16,113 posts)How am I the one who won't acknowledge the facts.
When someone is forced to resign, for legal purposes, they quit. To fire someone, you have to have cause, and I'm sure there are a few free speech advocates who would argue that what a person does on their own time, that is not illegal, is not their employers business, especially if they are in a government, union job. If this person won't resign, the government would have to have cause to fire him, and it's possible they may not have it, thus, they'd have to keep him on.
Would you support the government firing rank-and-file employees for exercising their free speech rights ( though, I'm not sure if this fall into "hate speech or not) on their own time?
Tunkamerica
(4,444 posts)suddenly lots of people have read the book and are giving their takes on Amazon.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)what kind of "Homeland security" business doesn't have an official spokesman? and allows anon. employee to give DHS statements about one employee/contractor? personal bloggie website.
DHS costs us billions and billions & they don't have an official media spokesman?
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)branford
(4,462 posts)Botany
(70,476 posts)bobclark86
(1,415 posts)"Gay rights are... in opposition to the religions of most of the peoples of Africa!"
Well, tough titties. What if I'm offended by your religion? Can I punish you by firing squad now?
(See how I flipped it on them?)
okieinpain
(9,397 posts)no bounds. gender, race, age, location are all open territories for the stupid.
Supersedeas
(20,630 posts)to some on these boards...and his first amendment rights to others
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)someone enforcing or following up on investigations who has racial bias couldn't be seen as a fair minded representative of the government.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)branford
(4,462 posts)He has a constitutional right to be a bigot while employed by the government. The burden will be on DHS, not the bigot.
If he wasn't using government time or resources to support his bigotry, or violating any DHS regulations (that must be compatible with the 1st Am.), he will be protected. This unfortunately happens fairly regularly with some state and federal government employees.
I expect DHS to review all his official dealings with a fine tooth comb. If they find clear evidence of the above, he can be disciplined. Termination might be much harder due, ironically, to union protections and defense. However, given the press these bigots have received in recent years, they now tend to be shrewd and avoid the pitfalls that resulted in past firings.
If we don't hear an update from DHS in about 1 to 2 months, I expect they will try quietly pay him to leave.
cali
(114,904 posts)they'll get rid of him.