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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 12:39 PM Aug 2013

Tesla Opens First Plant in the Netherlands

Source: Mashable



Tesla Motors opened an assembly plant in Tilburg, Netherlands, and delivered the first Tesla Model S vehicles to customers in the Netherlands, Belgium, France and Germany.

The 18,900 square meter facility will not produce the Model S from scratch; instead, it will receive the vehicles for final assembly and send them on their way across the continent.

To mark the occasion, first buyers from the Netherlands, Belgium, France and Germany showed up at the opening to receive their cars.

The car company chose Tilburg because of is proximity to the port of Rotterdam, as well as the high quality and availability of transportation options there.

Read more: http://mashable.com/2013/08/23/tesla-netherlands

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Tesla Opens First Plant in the Netherlands (Original Post) onehandle Aug 2013 OP
Having a front grill on an electric is like having a buggy whip on the 1st horseless carriages. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #1
At least the unnecessary grill is a good -looking, unnecessary grill! TheDebbieDee Aug 2013 #2
One of these days people will consider front grills to be "antique". Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #3
I'm thinking the electric motor may still require air flow cooling, along with the AC condensor. nt adirondacker Aug 2013 #4
makes since, running an electric on the I-15 towards Las Vegas without airflow cooling itsrobert Aug 2013 #6
The Tesla motor is a rear mount. The front is an extra trunk. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #11
I stand corrected. vw bugs didn't have a grill either. Thanks for the info. nt adirondacker Aug 2013 #13
At this point the grill on the Tesla is decorative.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #14
It eventually morphed into a cup holder daleo Aug 2013 #16
Filled with Orange Whip. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #18
Actually, the batteries may need some cooling. flyingfysh Aug 2013 #7
Vents are needed but driving in the rain with a front grill floods the electrics. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #8
The grille is necessary for its 0.24 drag coefficient. joshcryer Aug 2013 #19
Not all of it. Most is fake. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #20
The plastic part? joshcryer Aug 2013 #21
The entire SHAPE is to emulate a grill on a gas driven car. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #22
Here's one that comes close: joshcryer Aug 2013 #23
Illuminate it.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #24
I just saw that Texas is not allowing these to be sold in the state... tofuandbeer Aug 2013 #5
Bill Maher had a "New Rules" segment where he mentioned the "We Want What THEY Have Act". Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #9
That's exactly what it is, huh? tofuandbeer Aug 2013 #10
Yeah. Cuts through the crap, doesn't it. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #12
A state dominated by oil interests won't allow electric car sales daleo Aug 2013 #17
Already seen 4 teslas drive through my little town in the past month. mainer Aug 2013 #15
Good for them. Mojo Electro Aug 2013 #25
Tesla model S official walk through video darkangel218 Aug 2013 #26
And how it drives.. wow darkangel218 Aug 2013 #27
 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
2. At least the unnecessary grill is a good -looking, unnecessary grill!
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 12:51 PM
Aug 2013

That Tesla is a very sexy car - I wish I could afford one!

itsrobert

(14,157 posts)
6. makes since, running an electric on the I-15 towards Las Vegas without airflow cooling
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 01:18 PM
Aug 2013

would probably cause issues.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
14. At this point the grill on the Tesla is decorative....
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 06:23 PM
Aug 2013

When horseless carriages first came out they included the little cup on the side where you put your buggy whip.

The reason?

People were used to seeing that detail.

flyingfysh

(1,990 posts)
7. Actually, the batteries may need some cooling.
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 01:20 PM
Aug 2013

My Prius has an interior intake for air to cool the battery, and the manual has a warning never to block that vent.

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
19. The grille is necessary for its 0.24 drag coefficient.
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 02:31 AM
Aug 2013

It allows air flow to effectively flow under the car. It's not for cooling, it's for aerodynamics.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
20. Not all of it. Most is fake.
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 02:42 AM
Aug 2013

It's just that people expect to see a grill in front of a car.

Look at the fake grill on the Chevy Volt.


joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
21. The plastic part?
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 02:53 AM
Aug 2013


Model S buyers have actually expressed distaste for the transparent plastic grille and made requests for a fake one on the forums.

You may be talking about the grille-like nature of the metal behind the plastic: http://www.flickr.com/photos/niallkennedy/3433439574/in/set-72157616646220006/

But I think that serves a functional purpose (and looks nice). You don't want a solid piece of metal there so that if you hit something it crumples. It probably could be changed but I don't see a non-functioning fake grille there.
 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
22. The entire SHAPE is to emulate a grill on a gas driven car.
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 03:19 AM
Aug 2013

They could go with their original concept car.

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
23. Here's one that comes close:
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 03:27 AM
Aug 2013


It still has that upper gap to be symmetrical with the (required) lower gap. But it's nice.

But sure, I get what you mean now. I tried doing a mockup of the Model S without a front circular thing there, it could look nice, but I suck at photoshop. I think the "grille" has become a place for car makers to put their logos so I don't see it going away any time soon.

Also, there's this thread here that discusses Model S nose cones. Apparently it does serve as a significant cooling feature for the car.

According to that poll your sentiment isn't without merit.

tofuandbeer

(1,314 posts)
5. I just saw that Texas is not allowing these to be sold in the state...
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 01:09 PM
Aug 2013

and that Colorado, North Carolina and Virginia want to do the same.
It has to do with franchise laws. Saturn also had set prices for their vehicle. I know because I bought one—it turned out to be a very good car.

I'm not sure if Tesla's approach is the same.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/nightline-fix-abc-news/why-texas-bans-sale-tesla-cars-140842349.html

mainer

(12,022 posts)
15. Already seen 4 teslas drive through my little town in the past month.
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 06:41 PM
Aug 2013

So yeah, they're selling. Stupid Texas.

Mojo Electro

(362 posts)
25. Good for them.
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 10:22 PM
Aug 2013

A customer at my work has a Tesla Model S.



I've been for a ride in it. It's an unbelievably bad ass car. Breathtaking acceleration (the electric motor doesn't shift, doesn't need to, all that torque). Amazing inside. The entire console is a giant touch screen that controls everything, you can even look at live diagnostics and telemetry from the car. It's a gorgeous piece of technology. I would buy one in a heartbeat if I could afford it.

And I love how the door handles tuck in when you put the car in gear.

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