NYPD designates mosques as terrorism organizations

[dipsydoodle]

Source: Associated Press

NEW YORK (AP) -- The New York Police Department has secretly labeled entire mosques as terrorism organizations, a designation that allows police to use informants to record sermons and spy on imams, often without specific evidence of criminal wrongdoing.

Designating an entire mosque as a terrorism enterprise means that anyone who attends prayer services there is a potential subject of an investigation and fair game for surveillance.

Since the 9/11 attacks, the NYPD has opened at least a dozen "terrorism enterprise investigations" into mosques, according to interviews and confidential police documents. The TEI, as it is known, is a police tool intended to help investigate terrorist cells and the like.

Many TEIs stretch for years, allowing surveillance to continue even though the NYPD has never criminally charged a mosque or Islamic organization with operating as a terrorism enterprise.

Read more: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_NYPD_INTELLIGENCE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-08-28-03-46-14

[AsahinaKimi]

1. Whats next? Internment camps?

Oh wait...we did that already...

[Ash_F]

2. NYPD displays their lack of character once again.

From the same leadership that brought you stop and frisk

I would have thought NY would demand better.

[AsahinaKimi]

3. Did you post this in

Video and Media? Think it would be a good idea, if you have not as yet.

[David__77]

4. So, how, if at all, should the government monitor such things?

Any ideas?

[yends21012]

5. Instead of broad brush activities...

Investigate people based on actual criminal activity,
Obtain warrants based on probable cause of real events and actions,
Government workers and law enforcement people actually get to know real people in their communities,
Build communities up with good jobs and productive neighborhoods,
Work for the people in a community instead of against them...

[David__77]

6. I would only add...

That establishing close relations with Imams is a good idea. So that the imams will convey relevant information to the authorities.

[Ikonoklast]

14. I don't like the idea of asking religious leaders of any stripe to become stoolies.

It would be so easy to put the finger on anyone that the individual religious leader had a personal beef with, and ruin their life.

[sulphurdunn]

9. Read this:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

[Blandocyte]

12. That's the OLD U.S. Please get with the times

[sulphurdunn]

20. You're right.

I don't know the hell is the matter with me. Maybe I'm the old pot head US. Like I'm so pre-2001. I probably shouldn't be allowed to drive anymore.

[Turborama]

7. This has been known for at least 2 years

Not sure why it's classed as news now?

http://m.democracynow.org/stories/12107

[blkmusclmachine]

8. K&R for exposure.

Even if it makes the apologists/sock puppets sad.

[Turborama]

11. What an odd statement

Apologists of who?

The police, or Muslims who go to Mosques?

And what have sock puppets got to do with this story?

This not new news makes me sad. What does that make me?

[jessie04]

10. Who are we to judge ?

I think its wrong to think one culture/religion is more terrorist than another.

[warrant46]

13. Judging what is about to happen--- strengthens your comment

As in how do decide who is worse ( IE Hitler eliminating 10 million, Stalin eliminating 20 million, or Pol Pat eliminating 36% of his own population)

[frylock]

15. NYPD is a terrorist organization

[MisterP]

16. aaaand Prospect magazine's #1 World Thinker for 2014 in an online poll is...

[X_Digger]

17. Fuck Kelly (and by extension Bloomberg). n/t

[RussBLib]

18. it's probably a prudent thing to do

Many mosques, in the past, have been used for plotting and planning terrorist attacks, that is, if we can believe the media.

IMHO, all religious houses of "worship" should be monitored. Look at the post about Ed Schultz and southern churches fomenting racism. Religious people are off in the head.

[cstanleytech]

19. Mmm there are some churches that belong on such a list like

the Westboro Baptist church for example.

[sakabatou]

21. And people still wonder why many don't trust cops.