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alp227

(32,004 posts)
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 06:36 PM Aug 2013

Slain toddler’s sister: Mom’s story ‘didn’t add up’

Source: Atlanta Journal-Constitution

The adult daughter of the Brunswick woman whose baby was fatally shot earlier this year testified Wednesday she grew suspicious of her mother following a phone call the night of the shooting.

Ashley Glassey, 22, said Sherry West called to ask how long it would take before her baby’s insurer would send her a check.

“The whole conversation didn’t settle well with me,” said Glassey, the first witness called by the defense.

De’Marquise Elkins, charged with shooting 13-month-old Antonio Santiago between the eyes as he sat in his stroller, is on trial in Cobb County along with his mother. Karimah Elkins is accused of lying to police and throwing the .22-caliber handgun used to shoot the toddler into a salt-water pond north of Brunswick.

Read more: http://www.ajc.com/news/news/prolsecution-rests-in-brunswick-baby-killing-trial/nZfNg/

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Slain toddler’s sister: Mom’s story ‘didn’t add up’ (Original Post) alp227 Aug 2013 OP
This is really old news azurnoir Aug 2013 #1
Yep. You summed it up. LisaL Aug 2013 #8
Seek evidence. Igel Aug 2013 #2
she has issues with her mother, she resents her, and lets say her mother was the worst mother ever JI7 Aug 2013 #3
Let's recap here. wild bird Aug 2013 #4
The DA also has a witness theHandpuppet Aug 2013 #5
You're right. wild bird Aug 2013 #6
I'm not sure this kind of deeply rooted sociopathy could ever be excised theHandpuppet Aug 2013 #14
Exactly. LisaL Aug 2013 #9
Yes Scairp Aug 2013 #13
It's still not that clear Nevernose Aug 2013 #12
Daughter has her own issues. LisaL Aug 2013 #16
Exactly, this story is phony victim blaming horse crap. alp227 Aug 2013 #15
Still with this? alphafemale Aug 2013 #7
Some people just won't believe that if wild bird Aug 2013 #10
The mother explained that she needed the money go west young man Aug 2013 #11
My first thought was PennyK Aug 2013 #17
It was Gerber's life insurance. LisaL Aug 2013 #18
I remember in the 1960s the insurance guy came to our house DebJ Aug 2013 #19
Same here theHandpuppet Aug 2013 #20
Yes I had red measles, German measles, chicken pox, DebJ Aug 2013 #21

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
1. This is really old news
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 06:56 PM
Aug 2013

the 'adult' sister if memory serves may be suffering an extreme case of sibling rivalry-she was born when their Mother was quite young, and as a result was raised by relatives, she says Mom abandoned her, no surprise that she is being used by the defense but any good or even half arsed prosecutor is going to tear her to shreds

JI7

(89,239 posts)
3. she has issues with her mother, she resents her, and lets say her mother was the worst mother ever
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 08:07 PM
Aug 2013

she still didn't shoot her own baby based on the evidence.

 

wild bird

(421 posts)
4. Let's recap here.
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 08:26 PM
Aug 2013

The DA has the murder weapon.
The DA has the testimony of the 14 yo accomplice.
The DA has the eyewitness testimony of Sherry West.

Plus a boat load of forensics to go along with it.

The daughters testimony is nothing more than revenge on her mother for whatever past wrongs she perceives her mom did to her.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
5. The DA also has a witness
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 09:23 PM
Aug 2013

The pastor this boy shot just 10 days before has identified the gun as the same one used in that crime.

This is a dangerous, vicious and sick boy. I don't know what the hell you do with a child this damaged.

 

wild bird

(421 posts)
6. You're right.
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 09:27 PM
Aug 2013

This young man's goose is cooked. Glad the DP isn't in play here, if he's convicted, and it's pretty much a done deal, I want him to spend the rest of his life in prison thinking about why he's there, although I doubt he has any remorse for what he is alleged to have done.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
14. I'm not sure this kind of deeply rooted sociopathy could ever be excised
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 12:31 AM
Aug 2013

I don't know how this child became such a violent sociopath but what are the chances he could ever be successfully treated? You hate to just give up on someone so young and throw away the key, but damn. I'm not qualified to venture a guess as to whether he could ever be rehabilitated.

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
9. Exactly.
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 10:47 PM
Aug 2013

Pastor was robbed in a very similar scenario. He didn't give suspect money and was shot as a result.

Scairp

(2,749 posts)
13. Yes
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 11:36 PM
Aug 2013

But this daughter seems to be rather vicious herself. I think the cops would have figured it out by now if the parents had been involved in any way.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
12. It's still not that clear
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 11:32 PM
Aug 2013

Those kids are probably guilty as hell, let me start with that. It is not as clear cut, though, as most other cases.

The DA has a weapon of the same calibre; for a long time, they never said whether they had the murder weapon, and still haven't to my knowledge.

Confessions, especially of minors, mean nothing. Less than nothing. Give me a few hours and I could get a fourteen year old to confess to being Pontius Pilate's accomplice.

The daughter certainly calls into question the validity of the eyewitness testimony. Her husband, father of the murdered child, is currently in jail for stalking her. According to neighbors, he was stalking/threatening her because he thought she was the murderer.

Again, what I'm saying is that this case just isn't as clear-cut as what most national media has portrayed.

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
16. Daughter has her own issues.
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 01:06 AM
Aug 2013

She was in jail for shoplifting charges. They let her out so she could testify.

 

wild bird

(421 posts)
10. Some people just won't believe that if
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 11:04 PM
Aug 2013

it looks like a duck,
quacks like a duck,
walks like a duck,
it's a duck.

 

go west young man

(4,856 posts)
11. The mother explained that she needed the money
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 11:24 PM
Aug 2013

to pay for for Antonio's funeral. The daughter took it another away. I'm thinking disgruntled daughter.

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
18. It was Gerber's life insurance.
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 01:33 AM
Aug 2013

And a lot of people buy it. Jeez.
And it was a very small amount, 5 k.

DebJ

(7,699 posts)
19. I remember in the 1960s the insurance guy came to our house
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 01:53 AM
Aug 2013

regularly to collect on the insurance policies my parents had for each of us.
Very small by today's terms; $500, but enough for a burial back then.
My parents were born around 1930, and they saw lots of funerals for children.
THEIR parents saw even more, and remember stories of the children's funerals
that THEIR parents saw.

We take it for granted today that our children will live...in white suburbia, anyway.
It wasn't that way a relatively short time ago...before vaccines.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
20. Same here
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 06:52 AM
Aug 2013

My parents had 500 dollar insurance policies on all the kids. It was just enough to cover some burial expenses in case one of us died. It costs just as much to bury a child as an adult. It's always wise to carry even a small insurance policy for children.
We kids had a lot of sicknesses then that most parents today don't even think about. I had measles, chicken pox, scarlatina... most of my siblings had all these as well plus mumps. The first polio vaccines were being distributed when I was small and a lot of parents were wary of it.
I believe the mother of the toddler had already lost one child (if memory serves; I may be wrong) so it would make perfect sense for her to have a small policy for her baby. Every parent should.

DebJ

(7,699 posts)
21. Yes I had red measles, German measles, chicken pox,
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 11:44 AM
Aug 2013

mumps on first one side, then the other, and constant strep throat and tonsillitis until my tonsils and
adenoids were removed in second grade...and when they did that, I didn't wake up from the anesthesia
for three days, and they thought I might not.

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