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Tommy_Carcetti

(43,181 posts)
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 09:10 AM Aug 2013

George Zimmerman’s Wife Says He Has ‘Beaten Down Her Self Esteem’

Source: ABC News

The Florida investigative journalist who is the first reporter to sit down with George Zimmerman’s wife, Shellie, said that during their “stunning” hourlong interview, the acquitted killer’s wife said that her husband has “beaten down her self-esteem,” but she is “looking forward to getting her life back.”

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“It put great stress on their marriage,” she said. “Constantly having to move. She got threats. A lot of threats. She doesn’t want to reveal from who…. They are constantly living under fear of being attacked.”

O’Connor, who is working on a book about the George Zimmerman trial, also hinted that there was evidence that was mishandled, saying that during the sensational trial, “there were so many untruths told.”

“What the jury never heard could have led to a different verdict,” she said.


Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2013/08/george-zimmermans-wife-says-he-has-beaten-down-her-self-esteem/



My guess is that they divorce in the next year or two and a very unflattering picture of George Zimmerman gets painted.

As you might recall, he did have a former girlfriend put a restraining order against him.
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George Zimmerman’s Wife Says He Has ‘Beaten Down Her Self Esteem’ (Original Post) Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2013 OP
Careful Shellie, he might find your comments threatening. Scuba Aug 2013 #1
Given that he's apparently putting together an arsenal, she will probably bullwinkle428 Aug 2013 #2
True shenmue Aug 2013 #3
Hmm JustAnotherGen Aug 2013 #4
Murderer or no, Georgie Jackpine Radical Aug 2013 #5
You must be a psychiatrist, work in a rehab center, or something like that. nt raccoon Aug 2013 #38
Psychologist. Jackpine Radical Aug 2013 #39
A whole lot of assumptions on next to no evidence. 1monster Aug 2013 #47
A whole lot of disclaimers that you seem to have ignored. Jackpine Radical Aug 2013 #49
Did he throw her under the bus? Sounds that way. MADem Aug 2013 #6
I think she JustAnotherGen Aug 2013 #8
I think she's getting ready to cook up a little "dish served cold" revenge. MADem Aug 2013 #12
I think like most abusive men JustAnotherGen Aug 2013 #15
He may think he's a golden boy, but in my neck of the woods, he's a glowing turd! MADem Aug 2013 #18
Absolutely JustAnotherGen Aug 2013 #19
If she is not too afraid to try to get a divorce. jwirr Aug 2013 #10
I get the sense, since she's on TV and he's speeding through TX to parts unknown, that they aren't MADem Aug 2013 #11
I agree MADem JustAnotherGen Aug 2013 #14
She could do a couple of forty hour weeks, and maybe get permission MADem Aug 2013 #24
Yeah, he didn't show to support her in court. What a selfish chump, child molester, liar, killer brush Aug 2013 #25
She's lucky it only ended in a brow-beating, he claims he was standing his intellectual ground. marble falls Aug 2013 #7
Gunners will take their boy Zimmy's side on this one Kingofalldems Aug 2013 #9
the DU Zimmerman apologists especially make me sick Skittles Aug 2013 #41
Day late and a dollar short for Trayvon's family....... Little Star Aug 2013 #13
I think that both Zimm's are looking to cash in with "tell all" books and movie deals! Dustlawyer Aug 2013 #16
She could not have had much at the beginning Tom Ripley Aug 2013 #17
adolescents, both of them. KG Aug 2013 #20
Sorry, I don't give a shit. Myrina Aug 2013 #21
I assume I'm not the only one who believes that... Demoiselle Aug 2013 #54
KARMA, its a bitch! Rebellious Republican Aug 2013 #22
"Poor little me; my low self-esteem caused me to do bad things. Aristus Aug 2013 #23
So what's next, Jerry Springer? Brother Buzz Aug 2013 #26
This did not take a crystal ball. George is not yet finished dishing it out, he will retaliate. n/t gordianot Aug 2013 #27
He will live out the remainder of his miserable life looking over his shoulder alone .... MindMover Aug 2013 #28
If she's smart she'll get the hell away from him. nt TBF Aug 2013 #29
It looks like that may be developing, the trick is to stay away from him and not become a statistic. gordianot Aug 2013 #30
True, he's pretty much the poster boy for armed and dangerous. TBF Aug 2013 #31
I remember the mother of one of my deaf students who had suffered a terrible beating. gordianot Aug 2013 #34
If looks like Saint George of Sanford may need to stand his ground again Snake Plissken Aug 2013 #32
Let me give you some advice, honey. Eventually he won't stop at beating down your kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #33
I have always thought that she knows the truth. grasswire Aug 2013 #35
He could just be an emotional abuser, but he has been emboldened and now thinks he's kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #36
i wouldn't be surprised if he has physically abused her , look at his history JI7 Aug 2013 #48
Oh Lord here we go . . . . . coeur_de_lion Aug 2013 #37
she knows the truth Skittles Aug 2013 #40
Interesting tidbit: Shellie wasn't staying with George the night of the shooting due to an argument Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2013 #42
By George (if I may say so), I think you've got it. raccoon Aug 2013 #55
Did it ever come out in the trial that he and his wife had argued that night? qanda Aug 2013 #43
I don't believe it did. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2013 #44
And what will always be stunningly evident: FL is a.o.k. with an armed adult gunning down and indepat Aug 2013 #45
Mrs. Zimmerman needed to avoid helping this clown beat the legitimate consequences Judi Lynn Aug 2013 #46
"Shellie Zimmerman Reveals She Had Left George The Night Before the Shooting" Cha Aug 2013 #50
Z has a problem, he needs treatment, this is not his first rodeo and probably not his last, Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #51
K & R Scurrilous Aug 2013 #52
i wonder if she wishes he was found guilty JI7 Aug 2013 #53
Turns out she HAS filed for divorce now! alp227 Sep 2013 #56
That was quick. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2013 #57

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
2. Given that he's apparently putting together an arsenal, she will probably
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 09:17 AM
Aug 2013

never feel secure for the rest of her life.

shenmue

(38,506 posts)
3. True
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 09:20 AM
Aug 2013

His smile alone is very creepy. If you've seen the picture of him at the gun manufacturer... yuck.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
5. Murderer or no, Georgie
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 09:27 AM
Aug 2013

gives off all the signs of being a first-class slimebucket.

Now he thinks he's a hero.

I have no knowledge of Shellie at all, beyond her current perjury problems (which no doubt Georgie Porgie pressured her into) and am by no means engaging in armchair diagnosis here, but I have seen a large number of somewhat similar cases, and offer the following generalization:

Very often, the women who are attracted to violent and antisocial personality types have very sad histories. They typically have a rather predictable set of personality traits. They often come from backgrounds in which they had been sexually, emotionally, and/or physically abused, usually beginning at an early age. They will put up with a great deal of abuse from their partners. They are unstable and seem to have poorly-formed personalities. They often have little concept of truth or of truth-telling. They cycle between idealizing their partners and being disgusted and angry with them. They may be prone to suicidal gestures or "parasuicidal" self-injury. They typically have a profound fear of abandonment, and if they feel that they have been abandoned, they may turn on the one who abandoned them and seek revenge with all the tools at their disposal.

I would not want to be George.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
6. Did he throw her under the bus? Sounds that way.
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 09:28 AM
Aug 2013

Didn't stand by her in court, visited the factory where the kid - killing gun was made?

And didn't he get stopped in Texas?

In that clip, you see the mother of George nudging the wife outta the way in court, to stand between her son and his wife. Hmmm.

They might get divorced sooner rather than later.

JustAnotherGen

(31,819 posts)
8. I think she
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 09:48 AM
Aug 2013

'SEES' him now. She 'SEES' him.

I prayer for her safe passage out of that relationship. Any woman who has been with one of 'these' can read what is going on in her 'voice'.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
12. I think she's getting ready to cook up a little "dish served cold" revenge.
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 10:00 AM
Aug 2013

And I hope she does--anything that makes that bastard's life miserable works just fine for me.

E.g.:

Shooting Trayvon wasn't in little Georgie's make up at all...but beating, abusing, bullying, mocking, being aggressive....well, sure, that was. So maybe, just maybe, he 'stepped over the line' just that once.....? Maybe his unfocused anger at me, at life, at his job, at his overbearing mama, got taken out on that young lad....?

She's gonna need some kind of hook to sell that book, after all...she'll want to dish as much dirt as possible to get a good payday, and she'll need that.

JustAnotherGen

(31,819 posts)
15. I think like most abusive men
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 10:09 AM
Aug 2013

He's 'refining'. Now he knows that he is a 'golden boy' and can get away with anything. She should position it as a cautionary tale, get Lundberg to write a forward. . . . I

MADem

(135,425 posts)
18. He may think he's a golden boy, but in my neck of the woods, he's a glowing turd!
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 10:36 AM
Aug 2013

I think the circle of life will come around to bite him in the ass, eventually!

JustAnotherGen

(31,819 posts)
19. Absolutely
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 10:45 AM
Aug 2013

Bad men eventually get theirs - and it's normally due to one smart and aware woman. Her actions and words could very likely be the coal and steam for the karma train.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
11. I get the sense, since she's on TV and he's speeding through TX to parts unknown, that they aren't
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 09:54 AM
Aug 2013

an item anymore.

It's all over but the paperwork, is my guess...

JustAnotherGen

(31,819 posts)
14. I agree MADem
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 10:08 AM
Aug 2013

And the smartest thing she can do is 'speak'.

I know there are quite a few Zimmerman 'supporters' here who will disagree . . . but I've been with one of these creatures. Many, many years ago. The smartest thing a woman in her position can do is speak.

I wonder if she is going to have to stay in Florida? I.E. If she can run through her community service in a few weeks, and go back and get permission to move for the rest of her probation period. I wouldn't even go back to my maiden name if I was her. The assets aren't there, they have no kids - she needs to get away from him and this chapter in her life and put her degree to good use.


He'll find his next victim soon enough. . .

MADem

(135,425 posts)
24. She could do a couple of forty hour weeks, and maybe get permission
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 11:09 AM
Aug 2013

from her parole officer to slide over the border to AL or GA...but I guess she'll have to check in regularly.

I don't know if states have agreements to handle the parolees of others under specific circumstances--maybe a deal like that could be worked out.

Sometimes, people petition the court to get permission to live elsewhere--she might try that if she has a good enough reason to ask.

I still think that Z-bully murdered that kid, and he was at fault for that entire encounter.

brush

(53,776 posts)
25. Yeah, he didn't show to support her in court. What a selfish chump, child molester, liar, killer
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 11:13 AM
Aug 2013

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
41. the DU Zimmerman apologists especially make me sick
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 02:57 PM
Aug 2013

they only care about the rights of gun humpers - not the right of people not to be targeted and stalked and murdered by gun humping cowards

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
16. I think that both Zimm's are looking to cash in with "tell all" books and movie deals!
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 10:17 AM
Aug 2013

Their focus is only on the money to be made off of this terrible murder!

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
21. Sorry, I don't give a shit.
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 10:59 AM
Aug 2013

Are we supposed to be surprised?
Are we supposed to feel bad for you after you were complicit in his financial & passport shenanigans pre-trial?


Too late. Too bad.

Demoiselle

(6,787 posts)
54. I assume I'm not the only one who believes that...
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 05:31 PM
Aug 2013

..being shot to death and having your self-esteem compromised are in any way comparable? Good grief!!!!!
Grrrrr.

Aristus

(66,328 posts)
23. "Poor little me; my low self-esteem caused me to do bad things.
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 11:07 AM
Aug 2013

I'm not responsible for my actions, Your Honor. I'm a victim!"

gordianot

(15,237 posts)
30. It looks like that may be developing, the trick is to stay away from him and not become a statistic.
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 11:32 AM
Aug 2013

TBF

(32,056 posts)
31. True, he's pretty much the poster boy for armed and dangerous.
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 11:42 AM
Aug 2013

Writing a book is probably the best thing she can do - he's going to be less likely to come after her if she is in the spotlight. Then again he's not the most logical bear in the woods ...

I do feel for her a bit - it can be hard to get out of abusive situations.

gordianot

(15,237 posts)
34. I remember the mother of one of my deaf students who had suffered a terrible beating.
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 12:19 PM
Aug 2013

She was in the process of getting a restraining order, the judge had not finished his paperwork. The husband who had beat her called the school to take the children. The Mother came to school heard that the father would come to school to get the children. We allowed her to call the local Sheriff whose department told the mother to take her children and leave school immediately, the restraining order was coming. As she left school the father met her on the road and tried to force her off with the children in the car. He hit a tree and cut his forehead. Guess who was arrested by the same Sheriff who told the mother to flee? I know of at least three moves she made to flee this man. About 5 years later I got word she and her children survived and were still in hiding.

George, who was allowed to retaliate in court in kind against his girl friends restraining order reminded me of this incident.

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
32. If looks like Saint George of Sanford may need to stand his ground again
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 12:05 PM
Aug 2013

What's a bagger to do?

His wife is leaving him no choice, she's not acting the way he thinks she should

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
33. Let me give you some advice, honey. Eventually he won't stop at beating down your
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 12:13 PM
Aug 2013

self esteem. I speak from experience.

Get out now.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
35. I have always thought that she knows the truth.
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 12:22 PM
Aug 2013

She knows what happened that night.

Ordinarily, that would make her at great risk from the murderer. But he can't be re-tried for shooting Trayvon.

I have also thought that she is a very sad person. George probably is an emotional batterer and I wouldn't be surprised to learn he hits her.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
36. He could just be an emotional abuser, but he has been emboldened and now thinks he's
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 12:47 PM
Aug 2013

untouchable, plus he's a gun nut. So she is going to get hurt if she stays. She might get hurt if she leaves, too.

coeur_de_lion

(3,676 posts)
37. Oh Lord here we go . . . . .
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 02:04 PM
Aug 2013

I hope she spills her guts to a responsible journalist or author.

He's a f***ing idiot -- we already knew that. We all know he's guilty of murder, and should be in jail.

But if he is stupid enough to walk out on his wife -- who stood by him when he didn't deserve it -- who could tell the world all about him and what really happened -- the real story -- he deserves everything she dishes out and more.

Bring it on Shellie, we'll be waiting. Plenty of people would be willing to help you if you tell the truth now.

It looks like that is what she is poised to do -- tell the truth.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,181 posts)
42. Interesting tidbit: Shellie wasn't staying with George the night of the shooting due to an argument
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 03:09 PM
Aug 2013
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmermans-wife-gma-20130829,0,1785518.story

"She revealed she wasn't home the night her husband confronted Trayvon because they had an argument and she was staying with her father."

An argument substantial enough to make one leave the house for the night has to be substantial. I'm sure it wasn't over George leaving the toilet seat up.

This all seems to further my personal theory of the case: George Zimmerman was steaming mad that night.

He and his wife were on the outs, she's not even staying in the house with him, it's raining and now he sees this asshole fucking punk black kid walking through his neighborhood who he's certain will make trouble like all the other black kids that he's called police on, just to get a late response from the police.

raccoon

(31,110 posts)
55. By George (if I may say so), I think you've got it.
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 05:33 PM
Aug 2013

I only hope one day Zimmerman does something and his butt winds up in jail. Like Simpson.






qanda

(10,422 posts)
43. Did it ever come out in the trial that he and his wife had argued that night?
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 03:10 PM
Aug 2013

Sounds like George was very upset already and probably took out his aggression on Trayvon Martin. I think George was probably abusive and his wife feared for her safety, otherwise why would she need to go to her father's house after an argument?

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,181 posts)
44. I don't believe it did.
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 03:16 PM
Aug 2013

Don't know if it would have come in if Shellie Zimmerman had testified, or if the defense moved to exclude it before the trial.

But since I hadn't heard about it until today, I don't think the defense moved to exclude it.

indepat

(20,899 posts)
45. And what will always be stunningly evident: FL is a.o.k. with an armed adult gunning down and
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 03:41 PM
Aug 2013

killing an unarmed child not yet of the legal age to buy a gun in FL. Stunning in its entirety for it is tantamount to bestowing a license to kill which defines such society imo.

Judi Lynn

(160,527 posts)
46. Mrs. Zimmerman needed to avoid helping this clown beat the legitimate consequences
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 04:07 PM
Aug 2013

of his evil adventure.

It's a little late.

Cha

(297,196 posts)
50. "Shellie Zimmerman Reveals She Had Left George The Night Before the Shooting"
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 07:12 PM
Aug 2013
In an interview with ABC, Shellie Zimmerman said that she had left her husband George the night before the shooting. If you don’t know anything about domestic violence statistics, this might not have set off any alarms. But I do, and suddenly the murder of Trayvon Martin makes so much more sense.

Shellie explained that she wasn’t home that February night, “I was staying at my father’s house. We had gotten into an argument the night before, and I left.”

http://www.politicususa.com/2013/08/29/shellie-zimmerman-reveals-left-george-night-shooting.html

thanks for the OP, Tommy

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
51. Z has a problem, he needs treatment, this is not his first rodeo and probably not his last,
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 07:55 PM
Aug 2013

As Dr Phil says the only thing worse than being in a bad relationship for ten years is ten years and one day. It is time for her to kick this zero to the curb and get her a hero.

JI7

(89,248 posts)
53. i wonder if she wishes he was found guilty
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 01:58 AM
Aug 2013

i really wonder if and how threatened she is feeling by him.

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