Rep. Gardner won’t corroborate higher premiums under Obamacare claim

[angka]

Source: FOX 31 KDVR-TV

“We were paying about $650 a month for our plan. And the plan that’s most similar to replace it through our current provider goes up by 100 percent more, so it’s from $650 to $1,480.”

Later that same day, Gardner appeared on CNN’s Crossfire and told the exact same story.

Since then, FOX31 Denver has asked Gardner to provide a copy of the letter or to provide additional details about the policies.

Five times.

But Gardner’s office chose not to help corroborate his claims.

Read more: http://kdvr.com/2013/10/04/gardner-wont-corroborate-higher-premiums-under-obamacare-claim/

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Read more: A Few Words About Rep. Cory Gardner’s Health Insurance

[ffr]

1. It's called whoring for a paycheck.

She does whatever she's told to do

for money.

[karynnj]

9. I thought the newsperson did a good job - in spite of the rude Congressperson

speaking over her. Not to mention, the chart that she had - obviously given to her as preparation disputed his accusations.

[ffr]

2. And BTW, that's not what I'm seeing. I'm shopping ACA now.

Started yesterday. Mine will be less.

LESS!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251327780

[cilla4progress]

8. Our family makes significantly less and it's going up -

both premium and deductible.

And no subsidies.

[displacedtexan]

16. What's going up? Your private insurance coverage cost?

I hear there's a lot of that going on right now. I just saw a Humana commercial on MSNBC, claiming to give you a better deal than medicare. I smell desperation among the big insurance company 1%ers.

[cilla4progress]

18. Yes.

Premiums and deductibles; annual out of pocket max.

[JDPriestly]

23. I suspect that his prior plan was extremely skimpy and is not allowed because it did not offfer

enough benefits in return for the money.

. . . . Starting next year, nearly all individual plans -- both in and out of the exchanges -- will be required to cover an array of "essential" services, including medication, maternity and mental health care. Many plans don't currently offer those benefits.

So what happens to the plans that don't meet the new minimum standards? They will likely disappear. A handful of existing plans will be grandfathered in, but the qualifying criteria for that is hard to meet: Members have to have been enrolled in the plan before the ACA passed in 2010, and the plan has to have maintained fairly steady co-pay, deductible and coverage rates until now.

http://money.cnn.com/2013/04/03/news/economy/health-insurance-exchanges/index.html

The Congressman is comparing rotten apples with fresh oranges.

He may have had one of those meaningless, catastrophic plans that left him paying for a lot of essential coverage. Used to be a lot of those, and they were just a waste of money. A lot of people in the higher salary ranges took their chances, gambled on those plans. They could afford to pay out of pocket for the charges that weren't covered by their healthcare plan.

I have to say that my Medicare Plan co-pays for emergency care, hospital stays and other big expenses have skyrocketed. They are taking from Medicare coverage to pay for the ACA.

That is not going to work. A lot of older people will not be able to keep their homes and pay the co-pays. That is really bad news because Social Security is really very little when you think in terms of a co-pay for a hospital stay of over $5,000 and also banks are paying no interest. Seniors are between a rock and a hard place already. That is not a good development. I think it is probably due to the new rules about compensating caregivers (not insurance companies) for their work. I'm with Kaiser.

[hedgehog]

5. Is there anything stranger than a group of millionaires complaining about

the cost of their health insurance?

Cory Gardner isn't one of them, but

"n 2009, the median wealth of a U.S. House member stood at $765,010, up from $645,503 in 2008. The median wealth of a U.S. senator was nearly $2.38 million, up from $2.27 million in 2008. That means the average U.S. House member was nearly 8 times wealthier than the median American family in 2009, and the average U.S. senator was nearly 25 times wealthier than the median American family."

http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2010/11/congressional-members-personal-weal.html

[Andy823]

19. Exactly!

He had "low" cost insurance paid for by taxpayers, now he has to go on the open market like everyone else, so even if his payment did go up, that's the same payment anyone else with his income would be paying. They are a bunch of babies, and I think they have way to many perks to begin with, now at least they are just like the rest of the country and they don't like that.

[madamesilverspurs]

6. Sigh....yeah, that's my congressman.

I refuse to refer to him as my "representative", but only because he isn't.

[angka]

7. NOTE: Cory is male, on the right in the CNN video

Saw some gender misidentification in comments. The woman on the left is Crossfire host Stephanie Cutter.

[The Last Dem.]

13. Yes,

I noted that as well.

[Ikonoklast]

17. Stephanie knows what his numbers are, she knows that he's lying.

That's why the question was asked, because she was poised to kick his ass with the answer.

She has that "I Know You Are Trying To Bullshit Me" look on her face.

[backscatter712]

10. Cory Gardner's a pathological liar.

The times I met him in person, when Fort Collins was unfortunate enough to call him their Congressman, he lied to my face.

He truly is a worthless little shit.

[heaven05]

11. LIAR!

[ehrnst]

12. Yes - he's leaving out the subsidy that federal employees will get if they

go with a higher priced plan on the DC exchange - the one that congress critters need to sign up through.

Is he including it in his current premium, and leaving it out of the one he anticipates paying?

[cbdo2007]

14. Everyone at her salary level SHOULD have higher premiums.

[Buddha_of_Wisdom]

22. His. Cory's a male

and a very stupid one..

[Skittles]

15. just give us the stats and let us plug in the numbers ourselves

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he is a lying piece of shit

[Sienna86]

20. Isn't he covered by the federal health plan?

My understanding is that if you are covered by your employer, and the plan meets certain guidelines, you cannot apply for the ACA nor receive the subsidy.

[Buddha_of_Wisdom]

21. We all know he's a sack of lying shit. His PPACA premium is probably closer to $500/month.

At least that's what the platinum version of PPACA here in Colorado costs......

[LiberalFighter]

24. How was he paying only $650 a month for a family plan?

Was that his employee portion of the premium? How much was the employer portion?

[judesedit]

25. He's paying $650 right now because we are paying 70% of his plan and he makes $175,000 annually

What's up with that? He doesn't deserve to pay any less than the rest of the people making $175,000 annually. He only works 100 some days a year and does nothing but waste our tax dollars and time when he's there...if he shows up. He has a retirement package that goes to his wife/significant other if he dies or is convicted of a crime. It's bullshit. Also, his healthcare plan is a hell of lot better than almost everyone else's.