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Divine Discontent

(21,056 posts)
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 07:15 PM Oct 2013

Capitol Suspect Miriam Carey Believed Obama Electronically Monitored Her

Source: ABC

The woman who led police on a high-speed chase near the U.S. Capitol before being shot dead had a history of mental illness and believed President Obama was electronically monitoring her Connecticut home in order to broadcast her life on television, sources said.

Sources told ABC News that Connecticut police had twice in 2012 been called by Miriam Carey's boyfriend, who reported the woman was delusional, acting irrationally and putting her infant daughter in danger.

Carey, 34, a dental hygienist from Stamford, Conn., was killed by police Thursday after trying to ram a White House gate and leading cops on a chase down Pennsylvania Avenue with her 1-year-old daughter in the car. The toddler was uninjured and placed in police custody.

According to sources Carey believed she was the "prophet of Stamford" and was capable of communicating with Obama.

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/US/capitol-suspect-miriam-carey-believed-obama-electronically-monitored/story?id=20470498







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Capitol Suspect Miriam Carey Believed Obama Electronically Monitored Her (Original Post) Divine Discontent Oct 2013 OP
Untreated postpartum psychosis is very real Warpy Oct 2013 #1
gosh, I'd say! the emotions and delusions run wild Divine Discontent Oct 2013 #2
She was out of the car. former9thward Oct 2013 #10
Well, I think crashing through the White House barriers Warpy Oct 2013 #11
She didn't "crash through" any barrier, White House or not. former9thward Oct 2013 #18
Not for lack of trying though according to some news reports cstanleytech Oct 2013 #20
She may have been shot while behind the wheel, but she was shot to death afer she got .... marble falls Oct 2013 #15
Her behavior was reported to the police twice... pacalo Oct 2013 #3
Yeah that's a great reason to kill her. YOHABLO Oct 2013 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Awknid Oct 2013 #6
I would think the girl could have been shot too but i have not seen lunasun Oct 2013 #19
I dont know but part of it could do with the risk of a bullet ricocheting of control. cstanleytech Oct 2013 #21
With perfect knowledge that might have been option; however, the responding officers didn't have 24601 Oct 2013 #7
+1. Exactly! It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback rollin74 Oct 2013 #9
Best response Stuckinthebush Oct 2013 #22
+1 (nt) reACTIONary Oct 2013 #24
This is so sad. jessie04 Oct 2013 #5
What is it with the sexism? DURHAM D Oct 2013 #8
Where was everyone who could have done something? Family, employer, healthcare, insurance? marble falls Oct 2013 #14
I see you missed the point. DURHAM D Oct 2013 #16
Oh no I didn't. I happen to agree with you, hence the gender neutral subjects of my question. marble falls Oct 2013 #17
This is just too sad to even talk about. My heart goes out to Ms Carey's familiy - especially her... marble falls Oct 2013 #12
I'm sure the NSA was monitoring her for the safety of us all The Second Stone Oct 2013 #13
^ indeed reddread Oct 2013 #23
Really doubt it since they are furloughed right now. I just checked their web site and it's not 24601 Oct 2013 #25
you can trust them reddread Oct 2013 #26
This is so sad both that she was shot and felt paranoid, over constant media barrages on Obama? Sunlei Oct 2013 #27

Warpy

(111,261 posts)
1. Untreated postpartum psychosis is very real
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 07:23 PM
Oct 2013

I've known three women who had it: two are dead and one is disfigured.

This is just a very sad situation. I doubt the police who opened fire had any choice, her car was the deadly weapon.

Divine Discontent

(21,056 posts)
2. gosh, I'd say! the emotions and delusions run wild
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 07:24 PM
Oct 2013

when I first heard that a lady had ran into the barrier at the WH, I thought, obsessed with the president? turns out Occam's Razor was right...

and my condolences if those women you knew of were friends/fam.

Warpy

(111,261 posts)
11. Well, I think crashing through the White House barriers
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 08:45 PM
Oct 2013

might have had something to do with that.

They're understandably jumpy about people who do things like that in our post 9/11 country.

They didn't know she was a young mother driven wacky by postpartum psychosis.

former9thward

(32,006 posts)
18. She didn't "crash through" any barrier, White House or not.
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 11:23 PM
Oct 2013

Maybe you should watch the news instead of listening to rumors.

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
20. Not for lack of trying though according to some news reports
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 11:54 PM
Oct 2013
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/miriam-carey-believed-to-be-driver-shot-near-us-capitol-lived-with-daughter-in-conn/2013/10/04/2794cc24-2ce7-11e3-8ade-a1f23cda135e_story.html

"Authorities are trying to trace Carey’s movements in Connecticut and Washington, where she apparently arrived only shortly before she approached a White House entrance and drove her car into a metal barricade just after 2 p.m. Thursday, then struck a uniformed Secret Service officer.

After speeding down Pennsylvania Avenue, she crashed at the Capitol grounds. Police scurried to carry the child to safety after her mother was shot several times."

But anyway a tragic ending regardless and one that might have been prevented if we had better mental healthcare in this country to provide care for such people.

marble falls

(57,083 posts)
15. She may have been shot while behind the wheel, but she was shot to death afer she got ....
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 08:56 PM
Oct 2013

out of the car.

pacalo

(24,721 posts)
3. Her behavior was reported to the police twice...
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 07:38 PM
Oct 2013

I would assume that she was hospitalized both times, given medication, kept under observation until she, like many mental health patients, 'said what they wanted to hear' to get discharged -- which is fine with the hospital because resources for mental health care are being stripped to the bone by states governed by Republican demagogues.

And so it goes.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
4. Yeah that's a great reason to kill her.
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 07:40 PM
Oct 2013

Another case of over zealous cops .. and they will be patted on the back as a job well done. Why was this woman killed? She was not armed .. they could have shot out her tires.

Response to YOHABLO (Reply #4)

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
19. I would think the girl could have been shot too but i have not seen
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 11:35 PM
Oct 2013

the video some folks were telling me about today ( their comments to me mirrored your response)

24601

(3,962 posts)
7. With perfect knowledge that might have been option; however, the responding officers didn't have
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 07:51 PM
Oct 2013

perfect knowledge did they?

First reports are usually incomplete & inaccurate - how many news sources reported she fired shots? Just look at the DU posts as an example.

What did police know and what did they not know?

In a town next to the Pentagon where terrorists used aircraft as a weapon, the biggest concern I'd have on the scene is whether the vehicle was packed with explosives that could be detonated as soon as the driver judged it was close enough to the White House or Capitol to be effective.

Tragic - you bet. Sufficient reason to change tactics should a similar incident recur? - not even remotely.

rollin74

(1,974 posts)
9. +1. Exactly! It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 08:36 PM
Oct 2013

now that it's over and the key facts are known

They didn't know that she didn't have a weapon and it may have raised red flags as a possible car bomb attempt

marble falls

(57,083 posts)
12. This is just too sad to even talk about. My heart goes out to Ms Carey's familiy - especially her...
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 08:51 PM
Oct 2013

daughter. I pray they all find some peace. Its too sad.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
23. ^ indeed
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 02:28 AM
Oct 2013

from the op title she didnt sound so crazy.
this is how we dispense mental health care in the US.

24601

(3,962 posts)
25. Really doubt it since they are furloughed right now. I just checked their web site and it's not
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 02:48 PM
Oct 2013

being updated.

www.nsa.gov

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
26. you can trust them
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 03:09 PM
Oct 2013

military and essential employees dont include them?
please. the web site is hardly their operation...
if emoticons werent such a raped cliche around here..

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
27. This is so sad both that she was shot and felt paranoid, over constant media barrages on Obama?
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 03:33 PM
Oct 2013

I don't think the police should have fired on her especially after she exited the car

Still there was a LONG chase then the car ringed by several police. someone saw her and the baby in the car. The car was a threat when surrounded by many police on foot.

When she hit the barrier why didn't the police car right behind her move up a couple feet and not let her back off the barrier?

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