Business Groups See Loss of Sway Over House G.O.P.

[TomCADem]

Source: NY Times

WASHINGTON — As the government shutdown grinds toward a potential debt default, some of the country’s most influential business executives have come to a conclusion all but unthinkable a few years ago: Their voices are carrying little weight with the House majority that their millions of dollars in campaign contributions helped build and sustain.

Their frustration has grown so intense in recent days that several trade association officials warned in interviews on Wednesday that they were considering helping wage primary campaigns against Republican lawmakers who had worked to engineer the political standoff in Washington.

Such an effort would thrust Washington’s traditionally cautious and pragmatic business lobby into open warfare with the Tea Party faction, which has grown in influence since the 2010 election and won a series of skirmishes with the Republican establishment in the last two years.

“We are looking at ways to counter the rise of an ideological brand of conservatism that, for lack of a better word, is more anti-establishment than it has been in the past,” said David French, the top lobbyist at the National Retail Federation. “We have come to the conclusion that sitting on the sidelines is not good enough.”


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[Demeter]

1. Took them a while to come to conclusions

We've been calling for primarying their sorry asses for years.

[wordpix]

2. Frankenstein's monster is loose & the creator is now running for his life

Isn't that how the story goes? Great analogy for the rich corporate creators of the T-bag monster. These rich Frankensteins needed more voters so created/organized/funded the "cling to their guns and religion" RW nut tparty monster. Now the monster is on his own and the creators/funders of this mess can't control him.

Cut off the funding, "moderate" R's.

[valerief]

3. So who owns the Tea Party mob now? Just the Kochs? Or another country? nt

[Myrina]

19. Jebus.

n/t

[freshwest]

4. That may draw in the anarchists of all factions to join the Teas, probably. Just sayin'

It's certainly not going to scare off the Libertarians. Their stated goal is NO government left standing.

By default, that leaves the theocrats and oligarchs in charge of everything, not an enlightened society. Just like other bananarepublics.

[L0oniX]

5. Racism trumps business concerns,

[DeSwiss]

8. Cha-ching!

[packman]

6. All about the Spirit, not the Flesh

The church during the Middle Ages preached that man's true goal was to united with God and secular trappings were not important. God and Jesus was the mantra which inspired wars,crusades and all manner of human misery.
Tea Party has its roots, I believe, in the Southern Baptist ranks and if they could do away with the corruption of government,money , sex, and liberals they will be rewarded both in this life and the next. They really do not care about money and material things, they have some vague thought, I feel, that they are doing God's work in some way. Indeed they are the American Taliban who are willing to bring down the house so they can have their ideological pure state.

[DeSwiss]

7. K&R

“We have come to the conclusion that sitting on the sidelines is not good enough.”

Translation: “We were fine with them screwing over Democrats until we start to get hurt.”

[Arcanetrance]

9. To steal their slogan from the last election "You built that"

[BumRushDaShow]

10. Stop "considering". Just. fucking. do. it.

You people sat back while the foaming-at-the-mouth GOP loons took control of the freight train and it's barreling full speed down the track towards a brick wall while they hold the emergency brake and laugh in your face.

Make your threat REAL. The top 3 on the Forbes 400 billionaire list have a combined worth that is 3 times the combined worth of the next 2 on the list - the scum Kochsuckers.

End this.

[Cha]

25. THIS^^^^^^^^^^

[Jackpine Radical]

11. Amidst all the Schadenfreude, I see here an opening for a wedge which,

if Progressive theorists are at all smart, they will be able to exploit.

On the one hand you have the Teabaggers & their Koch money, and on the other side you have the big banksters & others who rely on a large and generous government for much of their income. If the Supreme Court actually unleashes the demons with a "libertarian" McCutcheon ruling, we could just sit back & watch Mutual Assured Immolation that results from the Battle of the Oiligarchs and the Teatons in the primaries, and then walk in over the charred ruins to claim the government.

[hatrack]

12. How long before business lobbyists suddenly all become self-described "Libertarians"?

[jwirr]

13. That is what they get when they work to destroy democracy in favor of corporate

control of the empire.

[JPK]

14. Big Business......You bought it.......

.....Now you own it.

[jeffreyi]

15. Armageddon would be good...

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They don't want the expensive stashes of canned-and-freeze dried goodies to be for naught, to say nothing of all the stored ammo. They've banked everything on the end times being here, gotta make it happen.



http://www.salon.com/2013/10/10/christian_delusions_are_driving_the_gop_insane/

[blkmusclmachine]

16. Too late.

[Duer 157099]

17. So they'll buy some new pets that listen to them

And that helps us how?

[Orsino]

18. You hire rabid weasels...

...then complain of their intractability?

[Sunlei]

20. big lobbyists groups eat alive the weaker lobbyist groups. Not enough state/federal money for all.

perhaps real charities and 'all' the American people should be first in line again.

[BadGimp]

21. Talk about a blatant admission of the takeovr of the GOP by Big Money!

Here it is in black and white:

"Some warned that a default could spur a shift in the relationship between the corporate world and the Republican Party. Long intertwined by mutual self-interest on deregulation and lower taxes,..."

The writers talk about it like it's a normal and good thing for America that the GOP is a party filled with Big Money lap gogs.. My F*&k#$G head hurts!

[IronLionZion]

22. What I've noticed from Teahadists and even some on our side,

is the suspicion that someone else is getting something they don't deserve. There's an obsession with what someone else is getting.

Many theocratic or ideological Teahadists don't often give a shit about business, they just don't want poor/minorities/women/gays/etc. getting benefits they "don't deserve". and they feel entitled to have an opinion on what someone else "deserves". There was some asshole on the radio today saying gov employees don't deserve back pay while on furlough because its not fair to the rest of people who work, and to furloughed contractors like me who don't get back pay. Many on their side feel the same about food stamps/disability/feminism/gay marriage/etc. They don't want other people to get something.

With our side, many feel that corporations are getting more profits than they deserve. Hopefully most are coming from a place of frustration over the terrible inequalities where that money could be used to help the weakest links in society. But there are quite a few among us who are seeking to punish someone for something.

And now we are seeing that amongst wealthy establishment Republicans, they feel the teahadists have gotten more political power than they deserve. I wouldn't be surprised if they worked behind the scenes to cut off their funding. The GOP has always been a coalition of wealthy business types, religious nuts, and non-wealthy tax cutters. Big business used to manipulate the other 2 factions surprisingly well in the past. However it seems their astroturfing experiment with the tea party has gotten out of their control and non-wealthy tax cutters don't want anyone to get anything from tax dollars, even if it costs nothing or benefits society or our economy. They don't care if their insurance plans get better coverage for less cost, they just don't want some mythical lazy bum to get it.

Many of them still think the ACA is some kind of socialist welfare handout, while many on our side think its a corporate insurance handout, and the truth is somewhere in between.

[weissmam]

23. wack jobs

they created the wack jobs and now they come back to bite them. Hey when you only answer to wing nut evangelical preachers what do you expect

[Rain Mcloud]

24. The Corporate Overlords tried to have it all their own way too many times.

Liberals have always caved in efforts to make the government work,except this time.
The liberals decided to sack up and get a little bit of what they wanted.
The old paranoid devotees of rugged individualism always answer the dogwhistle with barred dentures,except this time.
The Tea Party decided to do things their own way,despite the repeated hootings on the whistle to stop and mind their corporate masters.

After years of neglect by the Liberals,the system is trying to work as intended but now we are on the brink of global ruination.
When everybody gets a piece of the pie then everyone wins.
Unfortunately for us,the pie was given away long ago in the name of bipartisanship for the promise of more economic prosperity for all.
I guess the liberals finally figured out that we are dealing with con men and carnival barkers,but is knowing this simple fact,too little,too late?

[Drunken Irishman]

26. It's October - I think I've seen this scary movie before.

Doctor creates monster, monster overpowers doctor and becomes too big to handle ... this normally ends with the U.S. government dropping a bomb on the monster.

So, yeah...

[titaniumsalute]

27. Well they got what they prayed for...

and now they cannot contain it.