House GOP furious with Senate
Source: The Hill
House Republicans were furious with Senate Republicans and President Obama on Saturday for trying to cut a debt ceiling deal that leaves them out in the cold.
Members emerged from a conference meeting saying Obama had double-crossed them by breaking off talks in order to shop for a better deal from the Senate GOP.
They said the deal, formulated by centrist Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine.), would never get House GOP approval.
They are trying to jam us with the Senate and we are not going to roll over and take that, House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) said after a GOP conference meeting.
Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/house/328205-house-gop-furious-with-senate
Put another way, the Tea Party House is pissed that Republicans in the Senate won't let them engineer another debt ceiling crisis in just six weeks before the Holiday shopping season. The amazing thing is that House Republicans don't see why this is a terrible idea. It is as though everyone else has to save House Republicans from themselves.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)my President gave them some of what they've been dishing out for the last 5years plus. Sock it to em!!! They're angry???/ The nerve and arrogance!!!
out in the cold is precisely where they belong , and where they will be in the next few elections .
calimary
(81,267 posts)They need to be sent out wandering in the wilderness for at least a generation or two.
However, even then, I doubt many of 'em will learn any good lessons from that.
lostincalifornia
(3,639 posts)him as a moderate.
It is was past do that the tea baggers are finally shown the door
LiberalArkie
(15,715 posts)lostincalifornia
(3,639 posts)DrDan
(20,411 posts)we are dealing with children
"We just popped the ball, and it's your fault. Now take us home."
We're dealing with spoiled-rotten children with a monstrous sense of entitlement and no sense of personal responsibility.
a kennedy
(29,663 posts)DrDan
(20,411 posts)lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)Naugh. No thank you. Not interested.
ffr
(22,670 posts)Make us think we're getting a better deal than the one from the House, when in fact, it's the compromise that gives away the store.
TomCADem
(17,387 posts)...then it stunning in the level of humility that House Republicans were willing to accept in order to be the goat to accomplish the plan. The very public sniping between House and Senate Republicans is also a nice touch.
ffr
(22,670 posts)to do the public relations/propaganda work.
Coming home tonight I was listening to sports on AM. When static got too loud, I searched for local sports, but ran into three wrong-wing channels all parroting the same tape. Obama this, Obama that. Obama, that evil president, blah, blah, blah. Not one progressive radio channel though. That negative PR has an effect, however small.
calimary
(81,267 posts)The latest ABC News/Washington Post poll just out today shows the GOP has gone from bad to worse. Their approvals are down even more from last week, and their disapprovals are at a new high. Up to 74% I think it is. They're NOT seeing any improvement. I'm actually pleasantly surprised!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014620539
ABC News/Washington Post. That probably damn near kills jonathan karl!
tavernier
(12,388 posts)is to run it all the way which will force the president to put amendment fourteen into play, at which time they will impeach him and have him put before a firing squad.
I hope the president goes with this option; I will love watching that trial and the crazies on the stand! Perhaps Crooze will entertain us with another of his favorite Dr. Seuss stories!! Cat in the Hat is good one: all about the mischief that occurs in a House when the adults are gone...
Roland99
(53,342 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)acting like children.
madrchsod
(58,162 posts)blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)Response to TomCADem (Original post)
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IronLionZion
(45,442 posts)to anything worthwhile. If there are enough votes for a clean budget bill and debt ceiling, there must be some way to do it without the extremist faction of one party holding the rest of the process up for no reason.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)Bush* did it constantly and when Dems complained, he just smirked along with the rest of the R's.
http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/orders/
He even had an order for increased hunting on federal lands.
Lefty Nast
(61 posts)Word around Washington is that Paul Ryan is really mad about being tagged as looking like Eddie Munster. It is rumored that Hollywood has tried repeatedly to sign him to play the role in an upcoming movie reprise of the TV series.
classof56
(5,376 posts)gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)go eat shit!
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)default on its debts.
I suspect that if Boehner lets that bill come up for a vote, he will not be Speaker of the House. If I have to bet on Boehner's balls, I'd see we are going over that fiscal cliff without a parachute.
DallasNE
(7,403 posts)Today there is a glimmer of hope, at least in the Senate. We are starting to hear sounds that could return us to "regular order". That is the direction we should be heading. What regular order translates into is where both the House and Senate pass budgets and the two budgets go to a joint committee to work out differences. What often happens is that the negotiated budget includes an increase in the debt limit to pay for the spending in the budget. This is the route I now see this going. It puts it in the lap of the House and Senate and takes the President out of direct talks and grand bargains. While a budget is a 1 year deal it can create the framework for future budgets as well, indeed that is why most projections cover 10 years. Look for a budget deal over the next 6 weeks that includes the debt increase to fund the budget period. It may require a short CR while appropriation measures are hammered out that line up with the new budget. This will be long overdue. And, yes, it means that the Tea Party has been thrown under the bus. About time.
Everything isn't exact but in horseshoes it certainly is a "leaner". And since Eric Cantor got the House Rules Committee to name him as the only one that could bring a bill to the House floor Eric Cantor is the big loser here. Could the fever in the House finally be broken. We should know that sometime this week.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)They don't belong in Congress, they belong in prison.