Government shutdown talks hit snag in Senate (updated headline)
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Source: Washington Post
The protracted stalemate has left Congress facing twin crises: Thursdays deadline to raise the nations borrowing limit or risk a potentially catastrophic debt default, and a federal government shutdown that will enter its third week Tuesday.
Republicans had hoped they could use the standoff to gain leverage in their fight with Democrats over the budget and President Obamas healthcare law, but find themselves in a dramatically weakened position. They have failed to unify around a common negotiating position and face polls showing that the public by large margins blames them for the stalemate.
As a result, a confrontation that started with the GOP on the offensive, driving to block or delay the healthcare law, has become a defensive effort by Republicans to hold onto budget cuts they achieved over the last several years.
On one level, the remaining issues up for debate are relatively small. Republicans have conceded that they will need to vote to end the government shutdown and extend the governments ability to borrow money. At least in the Senate, they have given up their efforts to defund or delay Obamacare.
Read more: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-government-shutdown-20131013,0,3347128.story
Senate Republicans want to extend the debt ceiling for just a few weeks, but would fund government agencies for a longer period to lock in current low spending levels.
Democrats want to extend the debt ceiling until after next falls congressional elections, but they prefer a shorter extension of funds for government agencies. That would allow spending levels to be renegotiated before a new round of so-called sequester cuts takes effect in the new year.
Liberalynn
(7,549 posts)I will believe it when I see it and even if they can deliver, they aren't going to get anything passed the PUKERS in the House.
The PUKERS in the House are not reasonable human beings. They want two things, to have the Dems surrender to them completely and the end of a Strong Federal Government. There is no in between for these blockheads.
Ellipsis
(9,124 posts)Liberalynn
(7,549 posts)but this isn't the first time they thought they were close only to have it fall apart. I do think there is a chance though that the Senate can get their act together but with the House being held hostage by the Tea Puking lunatics, I don't see how it changes the over all situation, though I wish it could.
Ellipsis
(9,124 posts)Buddha_of_Wisdom
(373 posts)while the rear end is doing the revolting?
Good analogy, huh?
Mass
(27,315 posts)It makes a huge difference, if only because they will need time to defeat the filibusters before Thursday.
Ellipsis
(9,124 posts)...would be my guess. Also I understand an there are procedural issues that Will delay any vote
melody
(12,365 posts)Sounds like everything.
Ellipsis
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melody
(12,365 posts)Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)The Fed and banks are closed as well. May be a crazy day, but I doubt trading volume will be all that high.
Ellipsis
(9,124 posts)Ellipsis
(9,124 posts)Senators return on Monday at 2pm (ET) for more debate on proceeding to a measure proposing to lift the debt ceiling through December 2014. Negotiations among Republicans and Democrats on Capitol Hill as well as the President continue as all parties struggle to reach an agreement to resolve the impasse over re-opening the federal government and what to do about debt ceiling.
marble falls
(57,099 posts)SeattleVet
(5,477 posts)Maybe like a laxative is 'productive'?
(Hell, if you gave the repukes a laxative they'd freaking disappear!)
Turbineguy
(37,337 posts)They didn't get the moniker "Suicide Caucus" because they were clever and had a good plan.