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highplainsdem

(49,013 posts)
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 10:57 PM Oct 2013

House stenographer hauled from floor

Source: Politico

A House floor stenographer was abruptly hauled out of the chamber after charging the dais and screaming during Wednesday’s late night vote on raising the debt ceiling and funding the federal government.

As the bill sailed toward final passage, the presiding lawmaker suddenly began pounding the gavel. Witnesses on the floor said the woman, who was not identified, seized a microphone and began yelling during the vote.

She was then removed from the chamber by floor staff and taken into an adjacent elevator. She continued yelling as she was taken away

-snip-

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/house-stenographer-hauled-from-floor-98439.html



More on this can be found in the Twitter feed of Todd Zwillich, Washington correspondent for The Takeaway from Public Radio International:

https://twitter.com/toddzwillich

Audio that Zwillich posted on Soundcloud:

https://soundcloud.com/toddzwillich-1/floor1-101612-wav

Shouting that God "will not be mocked" and "you cannot serve two masters." Something about the Constitution and Freemasons.
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House stenographer hauled from floor (Original Post) highplainsdem Oct 2013 OP
Again I say bottomofthehill Oct 2013 #1
I don't think it's funny. I agree with Zwillich that it's sad and troubling. highplainsdem Oct 2013 #7
I agree it's not funny - but dem in texas Oct 2013 #64
None of those things are logical explainations. Fearless Oct 2013 #8
Sorry but bottomofthehill Oct 2013 #10
No, she's just a closet fundie who was counting on God to pull this one out wtmusic Oct 2013 #14
I'm sorry but I've worked 14 and 16 hour days Fearless Oct 2013 #15
Maybe you don't have a host of different medical conditions that could cause this bottomofthehill Oct 2013 #22
Are you her doctor? Fearless Oct 2013 #25
No smartass, but a coworker who just watched someone's life go to hell for the world to see bottomofthehill Oct 2013 #28
If you're not a doctor Fearless Oct 2013 #41
Maybe because I just watched them put her in an ambulance to go to the hospital bottomofthehill Oct 2013 #42
No medical issue Fearless Oct 2013 #46
Post removed Post removed Oct 2013 #49
My sexual orientation has no place in this discussion Fearless Oct 2013 #52
Of course they should have been evaluated Tumbulu Oct 2013 #53
You realize this very thing happened to a Jet Blue airline pilot some month back yes? LanternWaste Oct 2013 #86
The conspiracy theories i referred to Fearless Oct 2013 #94
Which seem both irrational and unstable given the context of her position at that particular moment. LanternWaste Oct 2013 #107
Medications don't make you believe that freemasons are trying to overthrow the government Fearless Oct 2013 #116
I agree with what you say heaven05 Oct 2013 #87
Are you? Ash_F Oct 2013 #73
Because medical issues don't make you spout right wing bs Fearless Oct 2013 #82
I've never been in the situation this woman was in; greiner3 Oct 2013 #106
There's no reason I should hold pity for a winger. Fearless Oct 2013 #115
I have had Hypoglycemia for years now. Jamastiene Oct 2013 #56
Sounds like a medical condition Bradical79 Oct 2013 #34
Dont' be sorry. They always say 'people panic in their native tongue' tomm2thumbs Oct 2013 #35
Are you surrounded by batshit crazy self-absorbed millionaires? Myrina Oct 2013 #88
I manage a restaurant. Short answer yes. Fearless Oct 2013 #95
I can't think of any medical condition that Jamastiene Oct 2013 #55
She could have had a mental break(down). avaistheone1 Oct 2013 #66
Thank you get the red out Oct 2013 #102
.... DeSwiss Oct 2013 #38
All things have a cause Fearless Oct 2013 #43
Classical definition of faith is merely a belief in that if which we do not posses all relevant know LanternWaste Oct 2013 #110
We are speaking of two slightly different definitions of faith. Fearless Oct 2013 #118
I'm with you. The poor woman went sailing right off the edge... Hekate Oct 2013 #12
Yes, that was my first thought- If I had to pass all that poison through my body to record it, NBachers Oct 2013 #16
Former court reporter here. You are absolutely right. Manifestor_of_Light Oct 2013 #109
One wants to be kind - but I think she's been at the Oreo's. GoneOffShore Oct 2013 #2
FIRED!!! With Medical to get her the help she needs Heather MC Oct 2013 #3
I assume they mean Chuck Todd? Schema Thing Oct 2013 #4
I'm pretty sure she was on Jetblue flight into Tampa the other day Snake Plissken Oct 2013 #5
The unfortunate girl seated nearest the camera is scared shitless. HubertHeaver Oct 2013 #77
At least they were apparently landing. n/t AngryOldDem Oct 2013 #81
Ah, that is who it was. I hope she appreciates the mental health part of ACA. But wtf? uppityperson Oct 2013 #6
wow...Krazy. SoapBox Oct 2013 #9
"The Constitution would not have been written by Freemasons..." wtmusic Oct 2013 #11
Masonry was very prevelant at our country's inception. juajen Oct 2013 #72
Sadly, most of the recent administrations have tended to ignore the good bits like that ... Nihil Oct 2013 #78
The masons also pulled off the Boston Tea Party Marrah_G Oct 2013 #85
its the same lady? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #13
She'll be a tea party candidate for U.S. Senate next year KinMd Oct 2013 #17
+1000000 Jamastiene Oct 2013 #57
Nice to see the famous DU empathy and compassion are alive and well in this thread Hekate Oct 2013 #18
No empathy whatsoever for dominonists who think they can kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #24
Thank you wtmusic Oct 2013 #33
Compassion for what? jberryhill Oct 2013 #30
So far the pundits and Republicans who know her say this woman is normally soft spoken and reserved. avaistheone1 Oct 2013 #68
Edward Snowden worked for the government too jberryhill Oct 2013 #114
It's definitely one of the more annoying popular beliefs around here, isn't it? Posteritatis Oct 2013 #79
I don't think it's the beliefs treestar Oct 2013 #89
I'm talking in much more general terms Posteritatis Oct 2013 #119
Remember this? Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #32
The stuff that she was shouting pothos Oct 2013 #39
Really... RobinA Oct 2013 #97
I have a hard time feeling bad for someone who deliberately waisted the Nation's time tenderfoot Oct 2013 #113
just found her facebook page dlwickham Oct 2013 #19
Dobson from the AFA are mentioned prominently on her Likes page. Jamastiene Oct 2013 #58
I'm pretty sure this is her FB page dlwickham Oct 2013 #65
Michelle, is that you? AC_Mem Oct 2013 #20
She 'strolled' up to the dais, not 'charged' - and her name is Molly. Tx4obama Oct 2013 #21
Yes, I distinctly heard "Molly" hamsterjill Oct 2013 #91
Molly is powdered MDMA. MelungeonWoman Oct 2013 #105
On a brighter note, I hear there's a job opening for a new stenographer at the US House of Reps. TwilightGardener Oct 2013 #23
Is her name Diane Reidy? Anything No Vested Interest Oct 2013 #26
Been there 20 years jberryhill Oct 2013 #29
video IronLionZion Oct 2013 #27
that seals it for me - not tired, just off her rocker tomm2thumbs Oct 2013 #37
I was a court reporter(stenographer) for twenty years. Manifestor_of_Light Oct 2013 #31
Thank you for sharing your experience. Ash_F Oct 2013 #92
Thank you for this -- I believe every word of what you said. Hekate Oct 2013 #117
Very weird! emsimon33 Oct 2013 #36
oh dear wait till she finds out azurnoir Oct 2013 #40
Facts don't matter to RW Dobson AFA religious types. Sorry, but they have faith-based "realities".nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #93
It's fall rpannier Oct 2013 #44
Closet teabagger fundie gets caught up in the excitement and does something irresponsible. BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #45
Thanks for all the kind-hearted posts above that set me straight. n/t mia Oct 2013 #47
On another site, a commenter said her words were No Vested Interest Oct 2013 #59
Jehovah's Witnesses aren't political. ForgoTheConsequence Oct 2013 #74
Thanks for clarification. No Vested Interest Oct 2013 #100
Would someone 'splain this to me? She disrupted a single house chamber meeting where, if they had jtuck004 Oct 2013 #48
+++ davidthegnome Oct 2013 #51
Good observation. n/t Jamastiene Oct 2013 #60
OMG -- an actual attempt to put this in PERSPECTIVE ! eppur_se_muova Oct 2013 #103
that is a good example of irony wordpix Oct 2013 #121
If you think that's bad, there are hundreds of people like her in the military Crowman1979 Oct 2013 #50
In the House too, with all those Teabaggers in there. n/t Jamastiene Oct 2013 #61
Another video of the event... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #54
That sounds like half the religious zealots in my little Bible Belt hometown. Jamastiene Oct 2013 #62
I know. A couple under a tree by a lake,..."We should get married. We both hate the same things." Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #63
Nice job enhancing the audio on this video. eom Festivito Oct 2013 #76
Down right strange davidpdx Oct 2013 #67
They do a lot of drugs in DC. loudsue Oct 2013 #69
This does not surprise me in the least... ReRe Oct 2013 #70
Sorensen did a toon yesterday ... I think it ffits Ichingcarpenter Oct 2013 #71
+1 Liberalynn Oct 2013 #96
brilliant Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #98
Well that's ONE federal employee who won't be returning to work tomorrow. cui bono Oct 2013 #75
Surprised it hasn't happened before now. n/t AngryOldDem Oct 2013 #80
It's all fun and games meanit Oct 2013 #83
If she had shouted 'All'hu Akbar!' it would have been reported VERY differently. (nt) ehrnst Oct 2013 #84
This lunatic womain will probaby become the new RW hero. DCBob Oct 2013 #90
The Cruz sorts of religious leader thinks she was speaking for god RainDog Oct 2013 #99
Not just listening to those baggers, but reporting their crazy crap.. SummerSnow Oct 2013 #101
This isn't stress. That's bullshit. The Stranger Oct 2013 #104
Well... penultimate Oct 2013 #111
She'll be fired; greiner3 Oct 2013 #108
not fired but out on medical discharge. To dangerous, she could harm herself or others. Sunlei Oct 2013 #122
That's strange... penultimate Oct 2013 #112
It sounds like she had some kind of nervous breakdown. Beacool Oct 2013 #120
Stenographer offers godly excuse hamsterjill Oct 2013 #123

bottomofthehill

(8,336 posts)
1. Again I say
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 10:58 PM
Oct 2013

This has been a crazy time for a lot of people and she has been at work for 14 plus hours. Low blood sugar, stress and fear of loss of insurance, there are a lot of things could be going on. Let's not rush to judgment quite so fast. Now along with everything, she is a national laughing stock and her job is in jeopardy.

Not really funny

dem in texas

(2,674 posts)
64. I agree it's not funny - but
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 01:48 AM
Oct 2013

This lady has some problems and needs help, this outburst was not caused by low blood sugar.

bottomofthehill

(8,336 posts)
10. Sorry but
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 11:07 PM
Oct 2013

Long work day, long three weeks, possible medical condition......all quite logical and possible.

wtmusic

(39,166 posts)
14. No, she's just a closet fundie who was counting on God to pull this one out
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 11:11 PM
Oct 2013

and he let her down, or he doesn't exist.

Ouch!

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
15. I'm sorry but I've worked 14 and 16 hour days
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 11:12 PM
Oct 2013

Don't generally eat a full meal during them, work 50+ hours a week, and I've never started shouting about god and freemason conspiracy theories. I'm sorry.

bottomofthehill

(8,336 posts)
22. Maybe you don't have a host of different medical conditions that could cause this
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 11:24 PM
Oct 2013

And I hope you never do. But if you do, it can be quite frightening to those around you. Hopefully, it will not be on national tv with the world watching. Maybe a little compassion......maybe.

As your treatment plan becomes more effective in bringing your blood sugar within its target ranges, you may occasionally experience hypoglycemia (low blood sugar reactions). These reactions occur because there is too much insulin in your blood stream and not enough sugar going to your brain and muscles to help them function.

It is important to recognize and treat low blood sugar immediately because it can come on very quickly. It may be dangerous when your blood sugar is very low because you could pass out or have convulsions if your brain is not receiving enough sugar to work properly.
A low blood sugar reaction can happen when:
You take your medication, but don't eat on time.

You don't eat enough for the medication that you have taken.

You skip a meal.

You exercise more than usual.
Hypoglycemia reactions are thought of as "mild," "moderate," or "severe." If untreated, the early, mild symptoms of hypoglycemia can become moderate or severe.

Mild Hypoglycemia Moderate Hypoglycemia Severe Hypoglycemia
(needs emergency
treatment)

Sudden hunger Personality change Passing out

Dizziness Headache Convulsions

Shakiness Irritability

Nervousness Blurred vision

Pounding heartbeat Confusion or difficulty concentrating

Drowsiness, tiredness Poor coordination

Sweating Slurred or slow speech

Numbness or tingling
of mouth or lips


bottomofthehill

(8,336 posts)
28. No smartass, but a coworker who just watched someone's life go to hell for the world to see
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 11:36 PM
Oct 2013

How about a little compassion instead of just snide bullshit. I hope nothing ever goes wrong in your perfect little world

bottomofthehill

(8,336 posts)
42. Maybe because I just watched them put her in an ambulance to go to the hospital
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 12:28 AM
Oct 2013

I am going out on a limb an taking a guess that there is a medical issue.....

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
46. No medical issue
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 12:32 AM
Oct 2013

Makes you spout right wing conspiracy theories. If it did Ted Cruz and Michelle Bachmann should have been evaluated years ago.

Response to Fearless (Reply #46)

Tumbulu

(6,291 posts)
53. Of course they should have been evaluated
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 01:04 AM
Oct 2013

And treated many years ago. Perhaps this is the real reason these guys were fighting like hell to keep medical insurance away from regular people, they will lose their base.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
86. You realize this very thing happened to a Jet Blue airline pilot some month back yes?
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 09:53 AM
Oct 2013

You realize this very thing happened to a Jet Blue airline pilot some month back yes? The sudden onset of medical conditions resulting from medications are hardly conspiracy theories... ruling them out due to biases though, is little more than dogma.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
107. Which seem both irrational and unstable given the context of her position at that particular moment.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 01:49 PM
Oct 2013

Which seem both irrational and unstable given the context of her position at that particular moment, which further leads me to believe that a side-effect to medication cannot be, all other things being equal, ruled out.

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
116. Medications don't make you believe that freemasons are trying to overthrow the government
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 05:05 PM
Oct 2013

She was very calm and very direct in what she said. She exhibited no manic behaviors at the time of her actions.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
87. I agree with what you say
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 10:14 AM
Oct 2013

lot's of lack of compassion among human beings these days. With the dangerous fiasco we've witnessed for the last few weeks especially, led by people who care nothing of hurting and denying millions of at risk people, I'm not surprised at the comments to which you're responding to. Sad, mean world we live in.

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
82. Because medical issues don't make you spout right wing bs
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 06:46 AM
Oct 2013

Last edited Thu Oct 17, 2013, 07:18 AM - Edit history (1)

And for the record i haven't said she isn't some how sick. I've said that there is no sickness that causes you to spout right wing conspiracy theories and it it's insulting to those who have mental illnesses to claim so.

 

greiner3

(5,214 posts)
106. I've never been in the situation this woman was in;
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 01:46 PM
Oct 2013

However, I've had manic episodes where I was not totally responsible for my actions.

Lighten up dude!

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
115. There's no reason I should hold pity for a winger.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 05:03 PM
Oct 2013

Lots of people have rough days. Lots of people are sick. No manic episode makes you spout right wing conspiracy theories, unless you already believed them.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
56. I have had Hypoglycemia for years now.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 01:10 AM
Oct 2013

Never have I started shouting conspiracy theories about Freemasons and yelling that "God will not be mocked." Your explanations for this are all bullshit so far. Keep trying, I guess?

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
35. Dont' be sorry. They always say 'people panic in their native tongue'
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 11:53 PM
Oct 2013

and I'm guessing her native tongue was most likely FoxNews-inspired crazy-right-wing-idealogue a la mode.

with a heapin' helping of religious fanatic sprinkles on top.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
88. Are you surrounded by batshit crazy self-absorbed millionaires?
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 10:37 AM
Oct 2013

Stress and ill health, in the context of general assholery, can cause someone to snap.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
55. I can't think of any medical condition that
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 01:08 AM
Oct 2013

would cause someone to start yelling, "God will not be mocked." That's some right wing bullshit. Getting tired does not make someone a right wing tool. It just brings out the right wing tool that was already there.

 

avaistheone1

(14,626 posts)
66. She could have had a mental break(down).
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 01:59 AM
Oct 2013

Many people who have a mental breakdown who may not be particulary religious normally, will verbally start talking in religious terms that may not make sense.

get the red out

(13,468 posts)
102. Thank you
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 12:53 PM
Oct 2013

You are absolutely correct. I have seen two people close to me suffering from mental illness, bi-polar disorder to be precise, and this is exactly like one of them acted, in reference to the religiosity, when the disease first manifested. He was full-blown delusional, he doesn't even attend Church and is not particularly religious.

People on this thread shut others down because they aren't doctors, but there is no way to rule out a medical condition (and mental illness is a medical condition) until we hear some kind of confirmation as to what was going on.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
38. ....
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 12:03 AM
Oct 2013

[center]
''If you want logical take the blue pill.
If you want the truth, you realize that there are no pills.''[/center]

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
43. All things have a cause
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 12:30 AM
Oct 2013

Logic is the use of evidence to try to understand cause. The opposite of logic is faith-to believe without evidence or in opposition to evidence.

Logically speaking she is a wingnut. The words she uses are evidence of this. Conversely she might have a medical condition that might have caused her to spout conspiracy theories that otherwise she wouldn't believe in and do so after calmly doing her job for months our years without incident up until this one day.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
110. Classical definition of faith is merely a belief in that if which we do not posses all relevant know
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 01:51 PM
Oct 2013

" faith-to believe without evidence or in opposition to evidence. ..


Classical definition of faith is merely 'a belief in that of which we do not posses all relevant knowledge'. For example, I have great faith in my neurologist. I do not believe my faith in him is irrational or illogical.

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
118. We are speaking of two slightly different definitions of faith.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 05:06 PM
Oct 2013

Yet they are similar. You have faith in your neurologist based on past positive experiences you've had with them. Those are your facts.

Hekate

(90,749 posts)
12. I'm with you. The poor woman went sailing right off the edge...
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 11:07 PM
Oct 2013

... Gawd, if I'd had to listen to that incessant GOP blather for all this time I think I'd be ready to heave the steno machine right at the Speaker of the House.

NBachers

(17,128 posts)
16. Yes, that was my first thought- If I had to pass all that poison through my body to record it,
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 11:17 PM
Oct 2013

I would be forever changed, altered, and demented.

Think about it - all this bizarre insane babble has to be processed through her ears, into her brain, and then transferred to the steno machine. It can't help but leave a trail of poison behind, to twist her system. It would break me, too.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
109. Former court reporter here. You are absolutely right.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 01:50 PM
Oct 2013

Bad vibes, free floating anger in court, whatever you want to call it.
I once had to stand up and BEG a judge for a lunch break so I wouldn't get the shakes. I had low blood sugar and some of these judges don't want to take breaks. He backed down when I said "My doctor's name is Dr. ___. His phone number is ______. Would you like to call him and talk to him? I have to eat lunch."



 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
3. FIRED!!! With Medical to get her the help she needs
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 11:00 PM
Oct 2013

It's too many crazies trying to drive the ship. Really time to clean house and toss some folks overboard

HubertHeaver

(2,522 posts)
77. The unfortunate girl seated nearest the camera is scared shitless.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 05:19 AM
Oct 2013

Probably will have PTS symptoms after that ordeal.

wtmusic

(39,166 posts)
11. "The Constitution would not have been written by Freemasons..."
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 11:07 PM
Oct 2013

"You cannot serve two masters. Praise be to God..."

Fundie nutcase.

juajen

(8,515 posts)
72. Masonry was very prevelant at our country's inception.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 03:27 AM
Oct 2013

14 Presidents have been Mason's. Of these were Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Madison. If you compare the constitution of the United States to the Masonic constitution you will find some things that are alike. Washington was buried with a Masonic funeral and was past Grand Master and Master of his lodge.

 

Nihil

(13,508 posts)
78. Sadly, most of the recent administrations have tended to ignore the good bits like that ...
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 06:00 AM
Oct 2013

> If you compare the constitution of the United States to the Masonic constitution
> you will find some things that are alike.

... in favour of blind irrational fundamentalism coupled with sheer greed ...
the kind that gained strength when you decided to ignore the natural (sensible)
boundary between religion & state and print partisan mottoes on your currency ...


 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
24. No empathy whatsoever for dominonists who think they can
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 11:27 PM
Oct 2013

disrupt our legislative proceedings after god-knows-how-many-years of infiltration and possible sabotage.

I don't think she's mentally ill. I think she truly wants the bible to be the law of the land. We're lucky she didn't have a gun. We might not be so lucky with the next saboteur.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
30. Compassion for what?
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 11:41 PM
Oct 2013

What makes you think she has an illness?

How patronizing can one get to assume that because someone acts out of purpose and conviction with which you disagree, then they must be mentally ill.

I didn't have compassion for the 9/11 hi-jackers or Timothy Mcveigh either. While those are extreme examples, I do not automatically assume that someone engaging in deliberately disruptive behavior for a cause, is mentally ill.

Are the Code Pink folks mentally ill? They get up and yell about stuff they believe. What makes this woman any different?

 

avaistheone1

(14,626 posts)
68. So far the pundits and Republicans who know her say this woman is normally soft spoken and reserved.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:09 AM
Oct 2013

She may be both a religious extremist and she may be mentally ill. We may have observed her have a mental break this evening.

This woman is different than Code Pink, in that she is employed by the government to take notes/stenography on the House floor. She is there to record the events that take place - Not to shape them with her own opinions. Code Pink on the other hand does not work for the government, and its purpose is:

.snip.... working for peace and social justice. We have become famous for confronting the warmongers, whether in the halls and hearing rooms of Congress, the national conventions of both the Republicans and Democrats, George Bush's fundraisers, the publicity tours of Karl Rove, Condi Rice, Donald Rumsfeld and others, and Nancy Pelosi's house.
- See more at: http://www.codepinkalert.org/article.php?list=type&type=3#sthash.PdCNeYdB.dpuf


 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
114. Edward Snowden worked for the government too
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 03:30 PM
Oct 2013

And when he wanted to make a stand for his beliefs, he did so.

The updates to this are that (a) she said the Holy Spirit moved her to do it, and (b) her husband is proud of her.

This was a deliberate action out of her convictions and, no, being employed by the government does not trump religious beliefs for people who have the courage of their own convictions.

Posteritatis

(18,807 posts)
79. It's definitely one of the more annoying popular beliefs around here, isn't it?
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 06:14 AM
Oct 2013

That's before going into the nasty places "beliefs at odds with mine are a disease" traditionally leads in the first place. Ugh.

(At least the site's improved from a few years back, where the general assumption was that "mentally ill" and "evil" were synonymous..)

treestar

(82,383 posts)
89. I don't think it's the beliefs
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 10:41 AM
Oct 2013

It's the way she suddenly expressed them, that make people think there's a mental issue involved.

Posteritatis

(18,807 posts)
119. I'm talking in much more general terms
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 05:44 PM
Oct 2013

"Disagreement is a disease" is definitely a recurring theme here, especially on the hot topics of the day. It's calmed down over the years but it's still a problem.

That said, "our side" has had public outbursts like that which people are oddly reluctant to medicalize by comparison....

pothos

(154 posts)
39. The stuff that she was shouting
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 12:04 AM
Oct 2013

Is standard fare and is fully believed by many people on the right, including many elected members of congress. They just don't shout it on the floor of the House, but they sure say the same stuff to right wing radio hosts, townhalls, etc.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
58. Dobson from the AFA are mentioned prominently on her Likes page.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 01:20 AM
Oct 2013

If she's been spoon feeding herself that crap, no wonder she had her little outburst. To those defending her, if this is really her FB page, she will NOT be embarrassed by her behavior now, later, or ever. Anyone who can agree with Dobson's hate group bullshit doesn't know they should be embarrassed. They think they are right, no matter what.

dlwickham

(3,316 posts)
65. I'm pretty sure this is her FB page
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 01:52 AM
Oct 2013

it has a link to a stenographer page and a link the House page as well

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
21. She 'strolled' up to the dais, not 'charged' - and her name is Molly.
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 11:24 PM
Oct 2013

They call her 'Molly' in the AUDIO clip

hamsterjill

(15,223 posts)
91. Yes, I distinctly heard "Molly"
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 10:54 AM
Oct 2013

Perhaps there is more than one stenographer; thus the name of the other stenographer in this thread? But this woman is definitely referred to as "Molly".

MelungeonWoman

(502 posts)
105. Molly is powdered MDMA.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 01:27 PM
Oct 2013

MDMA is the main component of ecstasy. Doubt if that has anything to do with this story, just an observation.

No Vested Interest

(5,167 posts)
26. Is her name Diane Reidy? Anything
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 11:33 PM
Oct 2013

else known about her personal history?
For instance- how did she get the job? Political influence?
If so, whose?

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
37. that seals it for me - not tired, just off her rocker
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 11:58 PM
Oct 2013

to be fair, she is lucky she has healthcare and will hopefully seek assistance with this issue
 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
31. I was a court reporter(stenographer) for twenty years.
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 11:42 PM
Oct 2013

Incredibly stressful job. I got to where I hated humanity most of the time from working in the courts because some of the lawyers and judges were mean and nasty.

That said, her screaming is NOT excusable. But I definitely had the urge to get up and run off screaming A LOT. Part of the stress is being around people every day who hate each other and whose emotions run high, whether it is civil or criminal court. Very bad environment.

I used to come home at night and cry from the inherent stress of my job. And mean people just made a difficult job worse.

I hope she gets some mental health care.

Hekate

(90,749 posts)
117. Thank you for this -- I believe every word of what you said.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 05:05 PM
Oct 2013

Including that her screaming is not excusable.

This woman may be everything everyone is saying about her, but (a) her job in that environment had to suck, (b) the rush to judgment at DU was immediate and extreme given the small amount we knew at first, and (c) even people we don't like sometimes reach a breaking point and just snap.

All the furloughed workers are returning to work today -- my guess is that she is out of a job.

rpannier

(24,330 posts)
44. It's fall
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 12:31 AM
Oct 2013

One of the nuts has fallen from the tree and rolled into the House of Representatives
Though with some of the Republicans that are there, a whole bunch of them rolled in. Rotten nuts, but nuts just the same

 
45. Closet teabagger fundie gets caught up in the excitement and does something irresponsible.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 12:31 AM
Oct 2013

Not giving her the cover of mental breakdown.

No Vested Interest

(5,167 posts)
59. On another site, a commenter said her words were
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 01:22 AM
Oct 2013

in the vein of what a Jehovah's Witness believes, especially regarding the Freemasons.
Anyone here know anything about that?

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,869 posts)
74. Jehovah's Witnesses aren't political.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 03:44 AM
Oct 2013

This sounds more like Alex Jones meets Dan Brown horse shit. Washington was well known and well documented as a Mason so it's also dead wrong.

No Vested Interest

(5,167 posts)
100. Thanks for clarification.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 12:40 PM
Oct 2013

I knew many of the Founders were Masons.
Not sure how her statements fit in with any groups thoughts re Masonry and government, etc.
As of now, I'll just let her words be what they are and not try to interpret.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
48. Would someone 'splain this to me? She disrupted a single house chamber meeting where, if they had
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 12:39 AM
Oct 2013

been patient she would eventually have gotten tired and sat down with no real effect. For this she was hauled off for a mental evaluation.

The Tea Baggers were doing their best to seriously disrupt the not only the economy of the U.S. but of the world, and they are walking around loose?

I don't use the word incongruous a lot, but those two outcomes seem strangely out of kilter.

eppur_se_muova

(36,274 posts)
103. OMG -- an actual attempt to put this in PERSPECTIVE !
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 01:20 PM
Oct 2013

Very well done, too ! Mental evaluations for all Tea Baggers, it's only fair !

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
121. that is a good example of irony
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 10:12 PM
Oct 2013

Batshit crazy T-baggers walking around loose while getting paid, with gov. health care to boot, and a woman who goes bonkers hauled off to the psych ward.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
62. That sounds like half the religious zealots in my little Bible Belt hometown.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 01:29 AM
Oct 2013

They never STFU about their hatred toward others either. Too bad we can't get someone to drag them off. My hometown wouldn't be too bad then.

loudsue

(14,087 posts)
69. They do a lot of drugs in DC.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:26 AM
Oct 2013

The whole culture is sex and drugs w/in the offices, staff, lobbyists. "Inside the beltway" is its own little world.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
70. This does not surprise me in the least...
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:28 AM
Oct 2013

... in this fundamentalist "Teabagger House." Could it have been a ruse to get the fundies all riled up? I wouldn't put anything past the Teabaggers.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
99. The Cruz sorts of religious leader thinks she was speaking for god
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 12:25 PM
Oct 2013

'm not here to say this person is mentally ill or not. I'm not making fun of what happened and I don't know why it did and I am passing no judgment on a situation I know nothing about.

However, I do want to address this situation as understood by the religious literalists that are part of the Republican party at this time.

Here's how they frame it:

“It was not a mental episode, what she was doing was known as an exercise of the gifts of the spirit where she brought a warning and a message from God regarding the activity,” Doocy said the minister had written.


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/10/17/fox-friends-suggests-house-stenographer-targeted-for-bringing-message-from-god/

If you're not familiar with Cruz and Palin's religious orientation, it includes the idea that someone can speak words from god - any someone, and this sort of speech is inspired (and valued, as is, if they decide that's what it is.)

So, what was her warning and message? What was god telling Ted Cruz and his followers? Here's a transcription of her statement:

He will not be mocked. He will not be mocked. [to someone next to her] Don't touch me. [to the chamber] He will not be mocked. The greatest deception here is this is not one nation under God. It never was. Had it been, it would not have been— no. It would not have been— constitution would not have been written by Freemasons. They go against God. You cannot serve two masters. You cannot serve two masters. Praise be to God, Lord Jesus Christ.


http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2013/10/stenographer-dragged-house-floor-during-vote/70632/

So, what was that message from god?

The stenographer was saying this is not a Christian nation, and any politician that says it is is lying.

So, looked at from the religious right's pov - this woman is telling them to get out of govt and go back to their churches.

I think she was speaking a truth. Whether it was from god or not, not for me to say.

But the reality is that whenever your religion gets mixed up in politics, both are going to suffer.

The Stranger

(11,297 posts)
104. This isn't stress. That's bullshit.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 01:27 PM
Oct 2013

And it comes a week or so after a woman inexplicably drove through barricades, with a child in the car, trying to get to the White House.

It may be the result of a dysfunctional government in some weird sociological sense. I'm not saying it's aliens or UFO's -- it is clearly psychological -- but it's not some random event.

 

greiner3

(5,214 posts)
108. She'll be fired;
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 01:50 PM
Oct 2013

AND watched for possible terrorist plots; well, maybe not, now that I think of it.

After all, the House IS run by people who think this way.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
122. not fired but out on medical discharge. To dangerous, she could harm herself or others.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 10:39 PM
Oct 2013

Feel sorry for her but she has great insurance.

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