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hyphenate

(12,496 posts)
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 10:11 PM Feb 2012

James O'Keefe Sues Current Media, Keith Olbermann and David Shuster for Defamation

Source: Reuters

By Tim Kenneally at TheWrap
Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:09pm EST

Conservative journalist/activist James O'Keefe has often been accused of skewing the truth with his work. And now O'Keefe has charged others of doing the same to him.

O'Keefe's hit pieces on Planned Parenthood, ACORN and NPR have made him a hero of the right wing but have gained him a reputation for dishonesty in other circles. Now he's filed a defamation lawsuit against Current Media -- the parent company of Al Gore's Current TV -- as well as "Countdown" host Keith Olbermann, and guest host David Shuster, claiming that he had been falsely branded as a "convicted felon" who had been accused of rape during a December episode of "Countdown."

According to O'Keefe's complaint, which was filed in New Jersey Superior Court, during the December 22, 2011 edition of "Countdown," Olbermann called O'Keefe a convicted felon" on "federal parole after he was charged with [a] felony for attempting to maliciously interfere with Senator [Mary] Landrieu's office telephone system in New Orleans."

The suit further claims that on the Feb. 24, 2012 edition of "Countdown," guest host Shuster stated that there is a "rape allegation facing...conservative activist...James O'Keefe." In actual fact, O'Keefe's lawsuit claims, he pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor of entering a federal building under false pretenses in connection with the Landrieu incident, and an investigation did not uncover any evidence that O'Keefe and his cohorts actually intended to tamper with Landrieu's phones.



Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/29/idUS163636531220120229



O'Keefe really yearns for the spotlight, doesn't he?
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James O'Keefe Sues Current Media, Keith Olbermann and David Shuster for Defamation (Original Post) hyphenate Feb 2012 OP
Sounds like it might be nice to do some discovery on this guy alcibiades_mystery Feb 2012 #1
Now tooeyeten Feb 2012 #12
He's trying to fill the Breitbart void nanabugg Mar 2012 #69
How you like them "frivolous" lawsuits now? nt Lost-in-FL Feb 2012 #2
This could, maybe, possibly be a good thing with the spotlight being on that slimeball. jillan Feb 2012 #3
Olbermann addressed this yesterday as a script error itsrobert Feb 2012 #4
I was wondering why Olbermann apologized to O'Keefe the other day csziggy Feb 2012 #5
What I can't imagine is why one would be necessary. aquart Mar 2012 #26
Keith called O'Keefe a "convicted felon" which O'Keefe is not under the law csziggy Mar 2012 #28
Meh, call him a douchebag asswhipe... Drunken Irishman Mar 2012 #36
Convicted criminal leftynyc Mar 2012 #40
Despicable, Plucketeer Mar 2012 #55
Yes, Keith messed up on this one Kelvin Mace Mar 2012 #60
Olbermann screwed up EricsHolder Mar 2012 #32
O'Keefe is a public figure. fasttense Mar 2012 #47
I love the idea of Current TV and Olbermann counter suing csziggy Mar 2012 #56
The discovery phase of the lawsuit could be very interesting. wilsonbooks Feb 2012 #6
Let the depositions begin! SunSeeker Feb 2012 #9
Pleeeeeze Fate. Let me meet O'Keefe face to face one day. Lint Head Feb 2012 #7
K&R... stonecutter357 Feb 2012 #21
Doesn't one have to HAVE character for it to be defamed? nolabear Feb 2012 #8
EXACTLY. n/t YvonneCa Mar 2012 #30
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Richardo Feb 2012 #10
some claim tooeyeten Feb 2012 #11
Who is funding James O'Keefe? suffragette Feb 2012 #13
Really? Justice wanted Feb 2012 #14
O'Keefe is obviously not familiar with pretrial discovery LastLiberal in PalmSprings Feb 2012 #15
K&R... stonecutter357 Mar 2012 #22
I so hope you are right - and that the Current TV lawyers are as good as you csziggy Mar 2012 #29
Nice breakdown, thanks! nt MADem Mar 2012 #37
K & R!! Katashi_itto Mar 2012 #41
Nice but I stil prefer the West WIng Leo McGarry whistler162 Mar 2012 #45
Wonderful post! lunatica Mar 2012 #46
Typical wingnut overreach peace frog Mar 2012 #48
Thank you! eom 99 Percent Sure Mar 2012 #68
Yep, cross-actions can be all sorts of fun. Manifestor_of_Light Mar 2012 #70
All due respect to Davy Jones, but I hope they make a monkey's ass of that rat bastard O'Keefe. lonestarnot Feb 2012 #16
Hasn't he made himself a "public figure?" Downwinder Feb 2012 #17
he is a public figure SemperEadem Mar 2012 #43
Is that definition or defamation? shakker Feb 2012 #18
Mr. O'Keefe The Wizard Feb 2012 #19
Well, Breitbart at least won't be cross-examined about anything. nt tblue37 Mar 2012 #64
This man-child thus loses the right to criticize 'trial lawyers' over frivolous lawsuits. alp227 Feb 2012 #20
Gotta do something to keep up the brand Mopar151 Mar 2012 #23
can journalists sue reuters for referring to that scum as a journalist? niyad Mar 2012 #24
Now that cheers me right up. aquart Mar 2012 #25
how can he sue for something he doesn't have, which is character?? center rising Mar 2012 #27
I've got an idea that KO is going to make a lot of hay with this. Old and In the Way Mar 2012 #31
Oh... you mean THAT "journalist"??? MrMickeysMom Mar 2012 #33
Best laugh I've had all day!! Nt NightHawk63 Mar 2012 #34
That is akin to shit suing someone for saying it stinks n/t DFW Mar 2012 #35
lol 47of74 Mar 2012 #66
Dude it is called NYT vs Sullivan. You are a public figure. You have no standing. Loudmxr Mar 2012 #38
What character? JohnnyRingo Mar 2012 #39
but he has no character to defame SemperEadem Mar 2012 #42
So do you have enough rope yet James??? May it be so. ~nt 99th_Monkey Mar 2012 #44
Can't slander a public figure...or Fox would be broke. McCamy Taylor Mar 2012 #49
Oh, goody. tanyev Mar 2012 #50
A little historical perspective. Pab Sungenis Mar 2012 #51
this won't end well for little jimmy. Javaman Mar 2012 #52
Epic Battle of Good vs. Evil 90-percent Mar 2012 #53
He won't have his buddy Andrew Breitbart to help him out anymore LynneSin Mar 2012 #54
"journalist"? Really? ashling Mar 2012 #57
Keith apologized for the felony statement when he corrected it. If O'keefe wins on this can you Dollface Mar 2012 #58
OFFS. crim son Mar 2012 #59
Good lord......seriously O'Keefe, case law already provides Sheepshank Mar 2012 #61
Hey Jimmy, who's your daddy now Warren Stupidity Mar 2012 #62
So its OK for Rush to call a woman a "slut" but KO can't call someone a "rapist"? apnu Mar 2012 #63
Why? By their standards it's ok to rape, not just say it, and not okay to defend yourself. saras Mar 2012 #67
Spam deleted by uppityperson (MIR Team) asfghjtyk Mar 2012 #65

jillan

(39,451 posts)
3. This could, maybe, possibly be a good thing with the spotlight being on that slimeball.
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 10:26 PM
Feb 2012

And I'm not talking about Keith or Shuster.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
5. I was wondering why Olbermann apologized to O'Keefe the other day
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 10:39 PM
Feb 2012

But I guess an apology is not good enough for someone like O'Keefe.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
28. Keith called O'Keefe a "convicted felon" which O'Keefe is not under the law
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 12:58 AM
Mar 2012

Keith should have called O'Keefe an "alleged felon" since there are things that technically O'Keefe should have been charged with as felonies.

I'm sure that O'Keefe and Breitbart think they can pressure Current TV to fire Olbermann and Schuster.

I hope their attorneys are smart enough to use the discovery process to dig up every speck of dirt on O'Keefe, tie him to Breitbart and prove conspiracies between the two to take down ACORN, Planned Parenthood, and other liberal organizations.

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
60. Yes, Keith messed up on this one
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 02:42 PM
Mar 2012

He should have called him a "convicted criminal" instead.

Still, O'Keefe has an uphill battle that would damage him more than he would damage Keith, et al.

EricsHolder

(1 post)
32. Olbermann screwed up
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 02:08 AM
Mar 2012

O'Keefe over-stepped in the phone case.
There was plenty of stuff for Olbermann to go after, but Keith got sloppy.
Keith apologized in order to get a smaller settlement and put this behind him.
Live to fight another day.

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
47. O'Keefe is a public figure.
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 08:27 AM
Mar 2012

And as a public figure or celebrity he has a very complex case to prove. He may not win this.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
56. I love the idea of Current TV and Olbermann counter suing
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 01:00 PM
Mar 2012

And using the discovery process to dig out ALL of O'Keefe's dirty secrets. It would be worth it, even if Current TV end up having to pay O'Keefe some money.

SunSeeker

(51,574 posts)
9. Let the depositions begin!
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 10:52 PM
Feb 2012

And pass the popcorn! Olbermann's attorneys can ask about anything. Their defense is simple: this little worm has no damages since he is already perceived as a slimy nutter.

tooeyeten

(1,074 posts)
11. some claim
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 11:03 PM
Feb 2012

"In actual fact, O'Keefe's lawsuit claims, he pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor of entering a federal building under false pretenses in connection with the Landrieu incident, and an investigation did not uncover any evidence that O'Keefe and his cohorts actually intended to tamper with Landrieu's phones.


Doesn't mean it didn't happen or what was actually "uncovered", Jimbo!

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
13. Who is funding James O'Keefe?
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 11:09 PM
Feb 2012

I plan on asking this every time I see his name.

Also, how does someone who entered a Senator's offices under false pretenses and tried to gain access to communication equipment there get off so lightly?

15. O'Keefe is obviously not familiar with pretrial discovery
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 11:17 PM
Feb 2012

In a civil trial, the defense attorneys have wide latitude in the discovery process. For example, they can force O'Keefe to:

1. Produce all documents, letters, emails, videotapes, etc., relating to every organization that you have been in contact with which has even the slightest relationship to the current action.

2. Depositions (testimony under oath) of O'Keefe, Breibart, his accomplices in New Orleans, the "prostitute" in the ACORN tapes, the news anchor he tried to set up on his sailboat, etc. -- stuff that is related to his character.

3. Copies of all speeches he's given.

4. Copies of his financial records.

5. Unedited copies of all videotapes he has been involved in, including those which document his criminal actions of voting under an assumed identity.

6. Copies of his legal transgressions, including deposing the prosecutor in the Landrieu case.

They can also depose anyone who has had any dealings with O'Keefe, including employees of ACORN that he attempted to deceive and people who have been involved in his schemes. They could even go so far as to depose people from Fox News to determine if O'Keefe engaged in collusion with the network.

Also (and here's the fun part):

When you bring a civil action against someone, the defendant has the right to file a cross-complaint against the plaintiff, as well as any other person (Breibart, Fox News) who can logically be linked to the plaintiff's action. When I practiced law I made it a point to always file a cross-complaint; suddenly the plaintiff finds himself with something to lose. In fact, he might lose his case but the defendant win his, and then guess who gets to pay? It really made a difference in negotiating a settlement, which usually began with a phone call from the plaintiff's attorney, "What the hell are you doing?" I'm filing a cross-complaint; look up the rules of civil procedure, sir.

Despite what you've heard, very few cases actually go to trial -- most civil cases are settled and criminal cases are plea bargained.

O'Keefe can invoke the Fifth Amendment during his case, but if he does it, or invokes it too many times, the judge can rule that he is engaging in behavior that disrupts the litigation and therefore is acting in bad faith.

This case will probably take a few years, but it'll be interesting to see what shakes out of O'Keefe's tree. I think his ego has caused him to open a bucket of worms that he will wish had remained sealed.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
29. I so hope you are right - and that the Current TV lawyers are as good as you
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 01:03 AM
Mar 2012

Because I would love to see O'Keefe and his backers (Breitbart?) forced to reveal all their dirty little secrets!

 

whistler162

(11,155 posts)
45. Nice but I stil prefer the West WIng Leo McGarry
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 07:31 AM
Mar 2012

version of what can happen when you sue someone in civil court.

Yes, tis the season to watch West Wingf reruns.

peace frog

(5,609 posts)
48. Typical wingnut overreach
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 08:43 AM
Mar 2012

In their bubble world, they are untouchable and invincible. In reality world, they are as vulnerable as anyone else.

GO GET THE LITTLE BASTARD, CURRENT! Ready, aim, hurl everything you've got at the sniveling weasel.


 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
70. Yep, cross-actions can be all sorts of fun.
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 04:50 PM
Mar 2012

I was a court reporter for twenty years (that is why I am crazy now).
I also have a law degree.

Cross actions and counterclaims; fun and games!!!


SemperEadem

(8,053 posts)
43. he is a public figure
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 06:49 AM
Mar 2012

that much is established through all of his publicity-seeking antics.

It won't be easy for him to prove actual malice because he is a public figure.

It's too bad his lawyer didn't bother to school him on simple law truths.

shakker

(1 post)
18. Is that definition or defamation?
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 11:20 PM
Feb 2012

The basis for this suit is that he was charged with a felony and pleaded to a misdemeanor. So he is not a convicted felon, but just an admitted misdemeanor criminal.

The Wizard

(12,545 posts)
19. Mr. O'Keefe
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 11:42 PM
Feb 2012

has to prove damages and that would require potential employers to give testimony as to how they would have hired him and for what purpose and why a minor misstatement on a minor cable outlet made them not hire O'Keefe.
The criminals behind O'Keefe (Breitbart, et al), are trying to hold smoke.
They probably got some young right wing lawyer to take the case on contingency with the hope that he'll make his bones among wingnut fellow travelers.
O'Keefe and Breitbart getting cross examined would be fun, but the case will most likely get tossed by an "activist" (rational) judge.

Mopar151

(9,989 posts)
23. Gotta do something to keep up the brand
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 12:12 AM
Mar 2012

Of Breitbart/O'Keefe. They don't do all that well with "actions" - thus the arrests, and likely pending indictments. And this is the kind of "kick 'em in the balls" gesture the RW base loves

Old and In the Way

(37,540 posts)
31. I've got an idea that KO is going to make a lot of hay with this.
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 01:52 AM
Mar 2012

This could actually be something that gets Current and Keith some hi-profile exposure...and who won't be rooting for O'Keefe to get his ass handed to him...again.

Loudmxr

(1,405 posts)
38. Dude it is called NYT vs Sullivan. You are a public figure. You have no standing.
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 05:28 AM
Mar 2012

I learned about NYT vs Sullivan in college.

How was I to know that within a few years I would be covered by it.

NYT vs Sullivan says that anyone can say anything against you once you become a public figure. It has to be false, knowingly false and said with malice.

35 years or so as a public figure I know this. The first time I ever saw my name in print...it was the construction of the paragraph.Wow!! someone has my name in the industry!!! And he works .... at ..the ..same place..I do.

It took a little while for it to sink in that I was now covered under NYT vs Sullivan.(1964)

Since then I have discovered I am an internationally famous civil rights leader. How did that happen???

To those who would oppose me and say nasty things about me. I have no legal recourse.

And that is kinda cool. I gave up my rights years ago ... so come after me!!!

SemperEadem

(8,053 posts)
42. but he has no character to defame
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 06:48 AM
Mar 2012

that being the case, this is a frivolous lawsuit aimed at publicity and getting money he didn't earn.

Judicial welfare, if you ask me.

 

Pab Sungenis

(9,612 posts)
51. A little historical perspective.
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 09:51 AM
Mar 2012

This is how Oscar Wilde wound up in prison. The Marquess of Queensbury accused him of being "a somdomite." Wilde sued. The truth came out in court. Wilde was prosecuted.

This is the move with which O'Keefe is going to bring down not only himself but Andrew Britebart. Fox News will escape by cutting all ties with the two of them.

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
52. this won't end well for little jimmy.
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 10:08 AM
Mar 2012

as someone in this thread stated, the discovery phase will be very interesting. the case will probably be dropped.

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
53. Epic Battle of Good vs. Evil
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 10:16 AM
Mar 2012

For the love of God, Keith I sure hope you and Al's Current TV lawyers are all over this.

This could be the 3 dimensional chess game that gives that smarmy little twerp his just desserts.......

UP THE RIVER IN THE BIG HOUSE AT STATESVILLE PRISON!

-90% jimmy

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
54. He won't have his buddy Andrew Breitbart to help him out anymore
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 11:00 AM
Mar 2012

O'Keefe is slim and needs to fade away.

I'm sure Keith Olbermann welcomes this suit because he can prove what a lying weasel this idiot is.

Dollface

(1,590 posts)
58. Keith apologized for the felony statement when he corrected it. If O'keefe wins on this can you
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 01:52 PM
Mar 2012

imagine the Pandora's box this will open over at FOX.

crim son

(27,464 posts)
59. OFFS.
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 02:40 PM
Mar 2012

All Olbermann has to do is announce that whatever he said was not intended to be a factual statement. Problem solved.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
61. Good lord......seriously O'Keefe, case law already provides
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 02:50 PM
Mar 2012

for entertainment news media to say what they want. Perhaps looking at FOX and reading the court findings will give him some perspective.

apnu

(8,758 posts)
63. So its OK for Rush to call a woman a "slut" but KO can't call someone a "rapist"?
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 04:02 PM
Mar 2012

I'm blown away by the double standard here.

 

saras

(6,670 posts)
67. Why? By their standards it's ok to rape, not just say it, and not okay to defend yourself.
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 10:29 PM
Mar 2012

The words match the actions. What's to be surprised about?

What progressives call a "double standard" IS conservative politics. In their world, things are right if the right people do them and wrong if the wrong people do them. It doesn't have to do with the action, it has to do with the position in the primate dominance hierarchy of the aggressor versus that of the victim. If it's power-down, it's okay.

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