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kristopher

(29,798 posts)
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 12:56 AM Dec 2013

Radiation 36,000 times permissible level found in water at Fukushima plant

Source: Mainichi Shimbun Japan

FUKUSHIMA -- The operator of the disaster-hit Fukushima No. 1 Nuclear Power Plant said on Dec. 2 that it has detected radioactive materials that topped 36,000 times the permissible level in underground water extracted in the area.

According to plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Co. (TEPCO), strontium-90 and other radioactive substances that emit beta rays were detected at a level of 1.1 million becquerels per liter in underground water pumped up from an observatory well on Nov. 28. The well is located at a sea bank east of the No. 2 reactor, about 40 meters from the ocean.

The amount of detected radioactive materials hit the highest level since Nov. 25, which marked 910,000 becquerels per liter of underground water. The national allowable emission level for strontium-90, a typical radioactive isotope that emits beta rays, is less than 30 becquerels per liter of water.

TEPCO said radioactive levels in seawater within the harbor around the plant do not show any major change.

It has ...

Read more: http://mainichi.jp/english/english/newsselect/news/20131203p2a00m0na011000c.html

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Radiation 36,000 times permissible level found in water at Fukushima plant (Original Post) kristopher Dec 2013 OP
Someone will be here soon to tell us that burnt toast is more dangerous. SoLeftIAmRight Dec 2013 #1
in 3, 2...... Bennyboy Dec 2013 #2
Yes and if they do MyNameGoesHere Dec 2013 #3
Or the waters debunkthis Dec 2013 #19
Still waiting for that to happen, only been 2 and a half years. Sirveri Dec 2013 #22
This friend of mine was telling me about how his niece's husband doc03 Dec 2013 #4
Whatever it is I'm sure it will be a lie madokie Dec 2013 #6
I have several colleges at work who are... reACTIONary Dec 2013 #20
That house he's building 60 miles away - is it upwind or downwind from the nuke plant? n/t progree Dec 2013 #11
Another good question. PuraVidaDreamin Dec 2013 #12
Well the prevailing wind here comes out of the NW or the SW, his new home is SW of the doc03 Dec 2013 #18
It's probably because the plant is in the middle of nowhere. Sirveri Dec 2013 #21
No actually it is the opposite n/t doc03 Dec 2013 #25
A slow-motion disaster is much more elegant than a quick one: you get to savor it!..nt dougolat Dec 2013 #5
It's negligable agent46 Dec 2013 #7
The Mainichi Shimbun is one of the 3 major mainline English language newpapers in Japan kristopher Dec 2013 #8
fringe left wing alarmist? davidthegnome Dec 2013 #13
It's interesting agent46 Dec 2013 #15
Holy bone cancer!!!!!! newfie11 Dec 2013 #9
Under the new secrecy law, are you even allowed to know this? *nt Alamuti Lotus Dec 2013 #10
Under the new secrecy law... davidthegnome Dec 2013 #14
PBO should have done "something" about this. russspeakeasy Dec 2013 #16
Wow..that is a LOT of bananas.* dixiegrrrrl Dec 2013 #17
ha ha oh yesss flamingdem Dec 2013 #24
The entire nuclear industry is liable for the cleanup, IMHO. grahamhgreen Dec 2013 #23
Groundwater level rising at 800m from the coastal line Bennyboy Dec 2013 #26
7,500,000 Bq/m3 of “Strontium-90″ detected from groundwater near reactor1 Bennyboy Dec 2013 #27
Cesium-134/137 were detected from 71% of burley tobacco produced in 2013., Bennyboy Dec 2013 #28
 

SoLeftIAmRight

(4,883 posts)
1. Someone will be here soon to tell us that burnt toast is more dangerous.
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 01:10 AM
Dec 2013

Surfs up at Fukushima - beach front property selling at a bargain price.

 

MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
3. Yes and if they do
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 01:38 AM
Dec 2013

just offer them a free trip to swim in the waters around the leaking nuclear plant. If it is so safe, they should jump at the chance.

 

debunkthis

(99 posts)
19. Or the waters
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 07:32 PM
Dec 2013

off the west coast of North America after the plume begins to hit in the next few months...

Sirveri

(4,517 posts)
22. Still waiting for that to happen, only been 2 and a half years.
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 02:22 AM
Dec 2013

I'm sure that 'plume' will hit us any day now!

doc03

(35,345 posts)
4. This friend of mine was telling me about how his niece's husband
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 01:40 AM
Dec 2013

(a nuclear engineer) is touting the safety and efficiency of nuclear power. The curious thing about it is they are building a new house 60 miles from where he works. I asked my friend to ask him if he thinks nuclear power is so safe why he is building 60 miles and a 1 hour and 15 minute commute from where he works. I wonder what his answer for that will be?

madokie

(51,076 posts)
6. Whatever it is I'm sure it will be a lie
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 02:52 AM
Dec 2013

if he's a nuclear engineer and touting the safety of nuclear energy he's already used to lying

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
20. I have several colleges at work who are...
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 09:16 PM
Dec 2013

... nuclear engineers. They are very knowledgeable, experienced, and competent. They do not lie.

Not the same thing, but the last spacecraft I worked on is nuclear powered:

http://solarsystem.nasa.gov/rps/home.cfm

http://solarsystem.nasa.gov/rps/newhorizons.cfm

PuraVidaDreamin

(4,101 posts)
12. Another good question.
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 09:20 AM
Dec 2013

Just look at a map once you know, then compare that to known prevailing winds.
Let us know once you get that answer.

doc03

(35,345 posts)
18. Well the prevailing wind here comes out of the NW or the SW, his new home is SW of the
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 02:36 PM
Dec 2013

power plant so that would be upwind wouldn't it? If there is any accident 9 times out of ten any
fallout will go away from here towards Pittsburgh.

Sirveri

(4,517 posts)
21. It's probably because the plant is in the middle of nowhere.
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 02:18 AM
Dec 2013

So if he wants ease of access to schools, groceries, and other suburban amenities, he builds there.

agent46

(1,262 posts)
7. It's negligable
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 03:37 AM
Dec 2013

At this rate, it will take a thousand years for the radiation to become even remotely dangerous. Mainichi Shimbun Japan is a conspiracy site and you are a fringe left wing alarmist.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
8. The Mainichi Shimbun is one of the 3 major mainline English language newpapers in Japan
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 03:59 AM
Dec 2013

I'd love to pull an Erin Brocovich right now.

davidthegnome

(2,983 posts)
13. fringe left wing alarmist?
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 11:45 AM
Dec 2013

One thing I've discovered over the years is that the fact that something is a "conspiracy theory", doesn't mean it can't damned well be true. We were warned about the global financial crisis by people who were considered alarmists. We were warned by "alarmists", that not only did Iraq not have weapons of mass destruction, but that to launch our ground invasion would result in years of struggle, death, disaster, and extreme financial difficulty. Alarmists once warned us of global warming, before the majority suspected it might possibly exist. It was an "alarmist" who once let us know... "Hey! The Red Coats are coming!"

Whatever the end result of the Fukushima situation, I think we need to proceed with caution and be prepared for the worst case scenario. Whether it's safe right now or not isn't my first question. My first question is, "What if it happens again and this time all the crap gets blown up?" Would it make me a fringe left wing alarmist to suggest that, "Hey! That could be very... very bad."

Personally, I give more attention and consideration to "fringe left wing alarmists" than I do to those who tell us, "Nothing to see here folks. Everything is safe. Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain."

Also... do you have any idea how many republicans and even center democrats consider DU a conspiracy site?

agent46

(1,262 posts)
15. It's interesting
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 01:12 PM
Dec 2013

That you both would take seriously my over the top attempt at a parody. Shows how unhooked the denial is these days.

Yeah. I've been posting news items here about Fukushima for quite a while now. I don't consider myself an alarmist, but what I've been reading is alarming. This is a further indication there's a world wide crisis unfolding here. Only a few DUers seem to have been paying attention so far. I hope that's changing.

davidthegnome

(2,983 posts)
14. Under the new secrecy law...
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 11:49 AM
Dec 2013

You are not allowed to ask that question. Now all your keyboard are belong to us.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
17. Wow..that is a LOT of bananas.*
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 02:30 PM
Dec 2013

*a point of reference of minimizing radiation dangers...you know who you are.

 

Bennyboy

(10,440 posts)
26. Groundwater level rising at 800m from the coastal line
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 03:18 PM
Dec 2013

Related to this article.. Tepco gave up pumping up the rising contaminated groundwater on the seaside of reactor3 / “No tank capacity” [URL]



The groundwater level is also rising in the mountain side of Fukushima plant, according to Tepco. It’s approx. 800m from the coastal line, where a underground reservoir is located.

From 11/29 to 12/1/2013, all β nuclide density increased from 8,600,000 Bq/m3 to 20,000,000 Bq/m3 in the leakage detector hole water of the reservoir, which made Tepco realize the rising groundwater level. Tepco is attempting to stop the reservoir from floating.

Because of the underground wall on the coastal line, groundwater level is increasing in various places near the sea. However, Tepco hasn’t officially admitted the groundwater level is also rising even in the mountain side of the plant area widely, and it can be due to the underground wall, which can be the only cause.

MORE: http://fukushima-diary.com/

 

Bennyboy

(10,440 posts)
28. Cesium-134/137 were detected from 71% of burley tobacco produced in 2013.,
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 03:30 PM
Dec 2013

Cesium-134/137 were detected from 71% (104 of 146 samples) of burley tobacco produced in 2013, according to JT (Japan Tobacco Inc.).

The samples were collected from Fukushima, Iwate, Miyagi, Yamagata, Ibaraki, Tochigi.

The highest reading was 185.6 Bq/Kg (Cs-134 : 62.6 Bq/Kg, Cs-137 : 123 Bq/Kg).

The safety standard of JT is 100 Bq/Kg (In total of Cs-134 and Cs-137). Among 104 samples that Cs-134/137 were measured from, only 2 samples exceeded the safety standard of 100 Bq/Kg.

As a result, 98% of those products were purchased by JT for sale even though they detected a certain level of Cs-134/137 from those ones.

http://www.jti.co.jp/news/radiological_inspection/pdf/20131010_02.pdf

http://www.jti.co.jp/news/radiological_inspection_20131010.html

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