Pakistan polio workers shot dead in Karachi
Source: BBC
Three polio workers have been killed in the southern Pakistani city of Karachi, a day after authorities began a new vaccination drive, officials say.
Reports say gunmen opened fire in the Qayumabad area, killing one man and two women administering polio drops.
The attack is the latest in a series targeting polio teams in the country.
No group has claimed responsibility, but the Taliban oppose the polio schemes, which they see as a cover for international espionage.
Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-25823154
Archae
(46,354 posts)We have the anti-vaxx kooks in the US, in Pakistian and other third-world countries they are anti-vaxx to this degree, they claim the vaccinations are to render Muslims sterile, or dead.
Their "traditional" medicine for those who get polio is mostly "Let 'em die."
Renew Deal
(81,876 posts)I think the vaxx groups should pull out of Pakistan.
Archae
(46,354 posts)It wouldn't surprise me if they did.
I'm going by what I read several months ago, how Imans were condemning "Western medicine" as a whole, saying it was a "plot" to sterilize or kill Muslims.
Jerry442
(1,265 posts)If there is a God, He'd arrange for the people who did this to experience the joys of lifelong paralysis.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)He was in Rawalpindi installing/ maintaining radio equipment for RCA. Some were paying doctors not to give them vaccinations - they thought they would lose their soul if they had it/them.
blackspade
(10,056 posts)Last edited Tue Jan 21, 2014, 01:18 PM - Edit history (1)
It's juvenile and silly, unless or course you are Rick Flair.
Archae
(46,354 posts)blackspade
(10,056 posts)Got it!
xocet
(3,873 posts)You complain about the term and resort to attacking a poster, but fail to provide a solution other than your proscription of the term woo.
blackspade
(10,056 posts)Or scientifically lacking?
I was not attacking the poster personally, I was pointing out that the continued use of terms like 'woo' are juvenile and do nothing to the further scientific debunking of bullshit.
Using such terms undermines the credibility of the poster's commentary.
But if their whole idea was to combat stupid with stupid, well, mission accomplished.
Is that a better explanation?
xocet
(3,873 posts)So, one could paraphrase your statement as follows: "But if their whole idea was to combat profane inaccuracy with profane inaccuracy, well, mission accomplished."
Is profane inaccuracy substantially different from "stupid"? (Is "pseudoscientific bullshit" substantially different from "woo"?)
Is the audience for this debate one that would accept juvenile expressions or profane expressions better? Which is more effective in getting across the point? Which casts the optimal negative light on pseudoscientific practices and beliefs?
Or are you the audience for the debate?
I don't know.
Out of curiosity, what do you think about the term "selfie"? I find it to be juvenile, but no one consults me as to which words and expressions gain currency.
Yes, that is a better explanation.
blackspade
(10,056 posts)Your point is well taken though.
How about nonsense, because that's what it is.
As far as 'selfie' goes, like many things from social media, it is juvenile, because many of the drivers of this social phenomena are juveniles or seem to still wish they were.
but YMMV...
xocet
(3,873 posts)Archae
(46,354 posts)I hear it most often describing silly children's literature.
"Woo" as a noun is an insult.
Rightfully so.
"Bullshit" is more effective, but gets censored.
xocet
(3,873 posts)How about balderdash (for the Victorians among us) or crap (probably too broadly defined, but less likely to be censored)?
Archae
(46,354 posts)I heard it bleeped from a couple news broadcasts.
And "balderdash" is simply outdated.
Something a character in an old book says.
xocet
(3,873 posts)"Balderdash", though, was not a serious suggestion; cf., " for the Victorians among us)".
How long has the term woo been around? I've seen it on a several sites for quite a while now (years), but when did it gain currency and what was its original context? Did it originally refer to something specific?
The only other term which I know that could be used to substitute for woo is not pc (unless its original context is so far in the past that it is no longer remembered). I doubt that it would be censored.
Renew Deal
(81,876 posts)ronnie624
(5,764 posts)I can't help but wonder if this is an element of 'blowback' from the eighties when the US was purposely fostering political and religious extremism in Afghanistan, as a part of its proxy war against the USSR. If so, it demonstrates conclusively, why it is best not to violently intervene in other countries for self-serving reasons.
blackspade
(10,056 posts)It sucks that the CIA and other US agencies have made careers like aid workers, archaeologists, geologists, etc suspect.
Thanks CIA, DEA, etc for making careers that actually help and inform people dangerous as shit.
Unfortunately these aid workers paid the price. Good job fuckwits.
Democat
(11,617 posts)The people who shot the aid workers are to blame for their actions.
blackspade
(10,056 posts)But the CIA creates an atmosphere of distrust of careers that impact human health and knowledge that results in incidents like this.
Kind of like our constant drone attacks creating more 'terrorists' that in turn crates financial opportunity for the MIC.
exboyfil
(17,865 posts)to use the anti-vaccination program to assist in finding Bin Laden. I would like to know who approved that and will we ever hear a good justification.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-cia-fake-vaccination-campaign-endangers-us-all/
barbtries
(28,811 posts)to murder the person who's trying to save your children?
muriel_volestrangler
(101,368 posts)The blast occurred near a police van in a market in Charsadda district, injuring at least nine others.
...
Police say Wednesday's bomb in Sardheri Bazaar, about 30km (20 miles) north of the city of Peshawar, was detonated remotely.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-25839588