Apple's Tim Cook: 'There is no backdoor. The government doesn't have access to our servers'
Source: Engadget
Apple isn't colluding with the NSA to hand over user data and CEO Tim Cook wants you to know that. In fact, Cook feels so strongly about this issue of security that he's gone on record saying the government would need "to cart [Apple's employees] out in a box" to get access to its servers. That choice soundbite comes from a sitdown interview, airing tonight on ABC, during which Cook elaborates on what he sees as public misperception stemming from the recent NSA scandal. To counter that, Cook said he's been "pushing very, very hard" for more transparency into Apple's internal practices, a move he hopes would help to set the record straight with the general public.
Read more: http://www.engadget.com/2014/01/24/apples-tim-cook-there-is-no-backdoor-the-government-doesnt
Brigid
(17,621 posts)It isn't as if the government would admit it if they did.
FreeState
(10,572 posts)1000words
(7,051 posts)I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't know for sure.
woodsprite
(11,916 posts)That means they shouldn't come knocking on our door for some stupid questions my son was asking Siri on his first phone. Both hubby and I heard him and were like "WHAT?". He was watching "Ghost Hunters" at the time and asked Siri if the video could be used as a thermal device. He meant "thermal imaging device" -- to photograph ghosts or detector to sense ghost energy or something. He got a weird message indicating that such info had been removed from the server.
Freaked us all out. He was almost crying when we told him that if the NSA visits him at school and calls him down to the principals office, maybe Verizon would be able to show them his history of watching Ghost Hunters, and Apple could give them a list of his totally dumb questions he's asked the phone since he got it, and they'll see he was just being a dufus.
Of course, we did get a weird call from the local police last night asking for a donation for their Fallen officer's and Victim's Assistance fund. I thought it was weird because they said they would have a local officer come to the house to pick it up rather than us mailing it in this time. I told them "Sorry, can't do a donation unless I can mail it in the form of a check." He did agree to that. Hmmmmm....
ChromeFoundry
(3,270 posts)they sure as hell have access to all data to-and-from their servers. And if you think the government cannot spoof an IP Address to make sure Apple doesn't know whom is accessing their servers... they are sorely mistaken.
I think Tim Cook meant to say: "We did not 'purposely' write a backdoor into our servers for government access. We use a ton of open source code, including BSD Unix in all of our operating systems. This, including our encryption algorithms. So, we don't know what the government has access to."
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)savalez
(3,517 posts)If Google or Microsoft said the same thing would you believe them also?
Edit to add that I already know your answer to this. Your Apple worshiping is well known around here.
Yeah right... Whatever Crook, er I mean Cook.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)This is twisted, twisted stuff.
ForgoTheConsequence
(4,868 posts)sir pball
(4,743 posts)I'll take Ken Thompson's thoughts over just about anybody else's any day. His now-classic lecture on "trusting trust" outlined a devious, fairly simple, marvelous hack that involves (WARNING: HERE BE TECHNICAL GIBBERISH) patching the source for the compiler to add a backdoor, a secret user, to the login binary - and then adding another patch to the compiler itself, one that would recognize when it was building itself and slip the patch into the outputted compiler binary. The source code was then sanitized, leaving a theoretically undetectable (any debuggers or intrusion detection software needs to be compiled, and the compiler will break those too) breach that would propagate even through a complete build from source. About the only way to be be secure is to write a compiler yourself, directly in machine code, and then only build from vetted source (and that's assuming the NSA hasn't slipped a KTH hack into the chip hardware - entirely conceivable).
Which Apple isn't doing. Matter of fact, given the age and capabilities of UNIX, while it is far more secure in terms of lusers and Russian botnets, deep hacks like this are probably more likely.
Of course, IMO Tim Cook is a lying POS and the NSA has the keys to the kingdom, but it's much easier to debunk him technically than to prove he's talking out his ass.
* - OS X is an Open Group certified UNIX 03, therefore ultimately Thompson invented it.
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)and the NSA owns the network connections around the servers. You don't need direct access to a server to get all it's traffic.
I think tim cooks lack of outrage and reassurances are very telling.
An Apple spokesman said: "We have never heard of PRISM. We do not provide any government agency with direct access to our servers
Joe Sullivan, Facebook's chief security officer, said it did not provide government organisation with direct access to Facebook servers.
A Google spokesman also said it did not provide officials with access to its servers.
A Yahoo spokesman said: "Yahoo! takes users' privacy very seriously. We do not provide the government with direct access to our servers, systems, or network.
Direct Access is an NSA pr word to minimize their participation in these illegal programs. Programs which open them to civil and maybe criminal liability.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/07/prism-tech-giants-shock-nsa-data-mining
Tim Cook thinks we're naive and lack intelligence.