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bananas

(27,509 posts)
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 04:43 AM Feb 2014

Nation's first new nuclear plant expected to secure $6.5 billion in federal loan guarantees

Source: Associated Press

The Energy Department is poised to approve $6.5 billion in federal loan guarantees for the first nuclear power plants built from scratch in this country in more than three decades.

Energy Secretary Ernest Moniz was expected to announce final approval of the deal at a speech on Wednesday, a day before he visits the $14 billion Vogtle nuclear plant now under construction in eastern Georgia.

Three government officials familiar with the deal confirmed its details Tuesday. They asked not to be identified because the deal has not been made public.

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Georgia Public Service Commissioner Stan Wise said state officials have been invited to a signing ceremony Thursday. He had not been briefed on the terms.

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Government officials familiar with the deal said two loan guarantees totaling $6.5 billion will be offered to Georgia Power, a Southern subsidiary, and Oglethorpe Power Co., a partner on the project. A separate agreement guaranteeing $1.8 billion was still being negotiated with a third Vogtle partner, the Municipal Electric Authority of Georgia.

Read more: http://www.dallasnews.com/business/energy/20140218-energy-department-ready-to-approve-6.5-billion-in-loan-guarantees-for-nation-s-first-nuclear-plant-in-three-decades.ece?nclick_check=1



This is a huge step backwards.
The loan application period was extended seven times - they should never have allowed that.
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Nation's first new nuclear plant expected to secure $6.5 billion in federal loan guarantees (Original Post) bananas Feb 2014 OP
Reuters: National Press Club on Wednesday at 12:30 p.m. EST. bananas Feb 2014 #1
GA Pub Service Commissioner doesn't know the terms of the deal - yeah, RIIIGHT---his share is BIG wordpix Feb 2014 #17
What a fucking joke! peoli Feb 2014 #2
The Obama Administration Le Taz Hot Feb 2014 #3
It won't be long now until they open their pie holes warrant46 Feb 2014 #8
I can't agree more---they're to blame as much as Lindsey Graham and the rest wordpix Feb 2014 #18
This is nothing but a testimony to human stupidity and greed. n/t Triana Feb 2014 #4
Unfreaking Believable! newfie11 Feb 2014 #5
But it's a wasteful Government imposed program if we provide subsidies for Solar Tom Rinaldo Feb 2014 #6
If it goes bankrupt like the solar companies then Bonduel Feb 2014 #10
Nuclear plants would all be bankrupt if it weren't for federal liability guarentees Tom Rinaldo Feb 2014 #13
correct- the reason these corp's came to the feds for loans is they can't get them privately wordpix Feb 2014 #16
Really? FBaggins Feb 2014 #19
There would be no nuclear power industry without the Price Anderson Act Tom Rinaldo Feb 2014 #20
Often repeated... never true. FBaggins Feb 2014 #23
Are you suggesting that the nuclear industry feels PA is placing an unfair burden on them? Tom Rinaldo Feb 2014 #24
Of course not FBaggins Feb 2014 #25
This is not good news for Democrats. Where will saidsimplesimon Feb 2014 #7
Jobs, power and infrastructure... Lost_Count Feb 2014 #9
huge financial risk on the public's back, known safety/environ'l issues with this industry wordpix Feb 2014 #15
this is so so so so so so so so so so x 1 million, stupid. peoli Feb 2014 #11
Keep this in mind Steerpike Feb 2014 #12
all profits to big corp's, all risks to the American public wordpix Feb 2014 #14
Everyone chill the fuck out. It's all good. jsr Feb 2014 #22
With cost overruns, they'll need $65 billion jsr Feb 2014 #21
Fantastic!! Finally we're building NEW nuclear power plants in the USA! democratisphere Feb 2014 #26

bananas

(27,509 posts)
1. Reuters: National Press Club on Wednesday at 12:30 p.m. EST.
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 04:57 AM
Feb 2014
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/19/us-usa-nuclear-loan-idUSBREA1I01O20140219

U.S. to announce $6.5 billion loan deal for Southern Co nuclear plant

By Ayesha Rascoe

WASHINGTON Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:36pm EST

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The conditional agreement totaling $8.3 billion provided loan aid to Southern's Georgia Power unit as well as project co-owners Oglethorpe Power and Municipal Electric Authority of Georgia (MEAG).

While loan assistance to Georgia Power and Oglethorpe will be finalized Wednesday, the $1.8 billion loan guarantee to MEAG remains outstanding.

The Department of Energy said on Tuesday that U.S. Energy Secretary Ernest Moniz would make a major announcement about the administration's "all of the above" energy strategy and a "path toward a low carbon energy future" at the National Press Club on Wednesday at 12:30 p.m. EST.

The department declined to comment about the specifics of the announcement.

<snip>

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
17. GA Pub Service Commissioner doesn't know the terms of the deal - yeah, RIIIGHT---his share is BIG
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 05:22 PM
Feb 2014

whatever the deal is. And so is Obama's, who originally proposed $60 billion in guaranteed loans for building these nukes.

snip: "Georgia Public Service Commissioner Stan Wise said state officials have been invited to a signing ceremony Thursday. He had not been briefed on the terms. "

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
6. But it's a wasteful Government imposed program if we provide subsidies for Solar
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 09:57 AM
Feb 2014

I predict that not a single national Republican nor tea party group will utter a word against this example of "government picking winners and losers against the free hand of the market".

 

Bonduel

(96 posts)
10. If it goes bankrupt like the solar companies then
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 01:39 PM
Feb 2014

you might see some complaining, but I don't think this nuclear plant will go bankrupt. This is a good investment IMO

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
13. Nuclear plants would all be bankrupt if it weren't for federal liability guarentees
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 03:06 PM
Feb 2014

Or in most cases they wouldn't even exist. And no companies could have afforded the massive R&D costs of developing nuclear power if weren't for off the charts military spending on nuclear weapons. They are counting on the federal government to solve the waste problems for them also.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
16. correct- the reason these corp's came to the feds for loans is they can't get them privately
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 05:18 PM
Feb 2014

Investors won't invest in this risky business. But dummy politicians including Pres. O backed it.

FBaggins

(26,737 posts)
19. Really?
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 03:53 PM
Feb 2014

Then how did they build as much of it as they have already?

And more importantly... how is the other new plant getting built when the power company isn't interested in the government backing?

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
20. There would be no nuclear power industry without the Price Anderson Act
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 05:31 PM
Feb 2014

It is hard to think of any industry that has ever been as dependent on support from the federal government as the nuclear power industry has been:

https://www.citizen.org/documents/Price%20Anderson%20Factsheet.pdf

FBaggins

(26,737 posts)
23. Often repeated... never true.
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 05:59 PM
Feb 2014

It's based on the faulty assumption that, without PA, nuclear reactors would have to carry enough insurance to cover a worst-case accident. This would be too expensive and thus they would never be built.

That simply isn't the case. No industry is required to carry sufficient insurance to cover the worst imaginable event. In reality, nuclear plants carry more insurance due to PA than they would be likely to carry without it.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
24. Are you suggesting that the nuclear industry feels PA is placing an unfair burden on them?
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 08:33 PM
Feb 2014

It almost sounds like that is how you are spinning it. Yeah right. I'm sure they pulled out all of the stops to kill it but those pesky environmentalists shoved it down their throats.

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
7. This is not good news for Democrats. Where will
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 01:00 PM
Feb 2014

they dispose of the waste? What is the source of water for cooling?

I thought Georgia was suffering from a water shortage? More of the bipartisan profit at all cost climate deniers? "When will we ever learn?"

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
15. huge financial risk on the public's back, known safety/environ'l issues with this industry
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 05:16 PM
Feb 2014

Epic FAIL

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
14. all profits to big corp's, all risks to the American public
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 05:14 PM
Feb 2014

This should never have been approved but it's the way things are done in the good ol USA and Obama approved

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
26. Fantastic!! Finally we're building NEW nuclear power plants in the USA!
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 09:42 PM
Feb 2014

It has been way to long; hope this is the first of many more to come!

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