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Redfairen

(1,276 posts)
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 07:50 PM Feb 2014

Tesla plans new battery factory, will employ 6,500

Source: Associated Press

Electric car maker Tesla Motors said Wednesday it's considering sites in Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas for a massive battery factory that would employ around 6,500 people.

The company didn't immediately name the locations it's considering in those states. Tesla plans to start construction this year and complete the factory -- which it dubs its "Gigafactory" -- in 2017.

.......

The new factory will provide enough batteries to supply 500,000 vehicles by 2020, Tesla said. Tesla expects to produce 35,000 vehicles this year.

Tesla currently sells just one vehicle, the Model S sedan, which starts around $70,000. But it plans to begin making a crossover, the Model X, later this year, and wants to bring a lower cost, mass market vehicle to market in 2017. Tesla said the factory would help lower its battery costs by around 30 percent.





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Tesla plans new battery factory, will employ 6,500 (Original Post) Redfairen Feb 2014 OP
My suggestion is go to New Mexico or even Nevada. Stay out of Arizona and Texas until the join the lostincalifornia Feb 2014 #1
Tesla shouldn't even consider Texas... Bryce Butler Feb 2014 #2
Oh, no, let them come here. MicaelS Feb 2014 #10
Stay the hell out "right to work" states. They are Red states that don't doc03 Feb 2014 #3
He should stick with California daleo Feb 2014 #4
+1 freshwest Feb 2014 #8
I'd like that, but the cost of running a large factory would be more expensive here. olddad56 Feb 2014 #11
I can see positives and negatives about most of those. n/t jtuck004 Feb 2014 #5
I think AZ just lost that one. n/t Bonhomme Richard Feb 2014 #6
Reno probably would be a desirable location Zorro Feb 2014 #7
Seems like the most sensible option. LeftyMom Feb 2014 #19
Why even consider the US Southwest at all? NickB79 Feb 2014 #9
I would not want to work in a Tesla battery factory. Bill76 Feb 2014 #12
Get lost. TekGryphon Feb 2014 #13
Back in 2011, there was a huge battery explosion & 3 workers burned by hot metal Nov 13 Mother Muckraker Feb 2014 #15
Aluminum explosion. NOT a battery explosion. truthisfreedom Feb 2014 #16
1) Battery explosion 2) Hot metal (aluminum).... 2 events Mother Muckraker Feb 2014 #20
3 slow-burning fires after the autos involved drove over tall sharp and heavy objects at high speed. truthisfreedom Feb 2014 #17
They were explosions. Look at the videos. Bill76 Feb 2014 #21
There are problems with this latest venture Mother Muckraker Feb 2014 #14
yep, that's what i'm afraid of, he's going out on a limb again, after all of his NONSTOP successes. truthisfreedom Feb 2014 #18
Study: Lithium-Ion Batteries Can Impact Environment, Health Negatively Mother Muckraker Feb 2014 #22
They are coming to Texas as much as it must pain DU Redford Mar 2014 #23

lostincalifornia

(3,639 posts)
1. My suggestion is go to New Mexico or even Nevada. Stay out of Arizona and Texas until the join the
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 07:54 PM
Feb 2014

civilized word

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
10. Oh, no, let them come here.
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 03:14 PM
Feb 2014

Make part of the deal them coming here, is that the Car Dealers are told to go take a flying fuck at a rolling donut.

doc03

(35,345 posts)
3. Stay the hell out "right to work" states. They are Red states that don't
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 08:29 PM
Feb 2014

believe in electric cars anyway. But apparently they want cheap scab labor.

daleo

(21,317 posts)
4. He should stick with California
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 08:30 PM
Feb 2014

It seems more sensible in the long run. Especially for a firm which is environmentally progressive.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
19. Seems like the most sensible option.
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 02:33 AM
Feb 2014

The only real downside I can think of is that I-80 closes to truck traffic during winter storms, but that would be an infrequent problem and one that could be planned around in most cases.

NickB79

(19,253 posts)
9. Why even consider the US Southwest at all?
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 03:11 PM
Feb 2014

If the long-term predictions for climate change hold, in the next few decades we'll be abandoning large parts of that region back to nature as long-term droughts set in and the reservoirs and snowpack fail to satisfy water demands for agriculture, manufacturing and residential use.

 

Bill76

(39 posts)
12. I would not want to work in a Tesla battery factory.
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 09:07 PM
Feb 2014

With their history of explosions, only a desperate undocumented immigrant would take a job there.

Mother Muckraker

(116 posts)
15. Back in 2011, there was a huge battery explosion & 3 workers burned by hot metal Nov 13
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 11:53 PM
Feb 2014
2011 battery explosion that was visible for miles


Nov 2013 - 3 workers burned by hot metal:
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/3-workers-burned-at-Tesla-plant-4980999.php

Mother Muckraker

(116 posts)
20. 1) Battery explosion 2) Hot metal (aluminum).... 2 events
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 04:37 AM
Feb 2014

Read again. I posted 2 incidents. One in 2011 and the other in 2013

truthisfreedom

(23,148 posts)
17. 3 slow-burning fires after the autos involved drove over tall sharp and heavy objects at high speed.
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 02:00 AM
Feb 2014

No explosions, ever. BTW, the computer directed each vehicle to safety in each of the three fire cases.

Mother Muckraker

(116 posts)
14. There are problems with this latest venture
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 11:49 PM
Feb 2014
Here's the Biggest Risk With Tesla's Gigafactory
http://www.thestreet.com/story/12459570/1/heres-the-biggest-risk-with-teslas-gigafactory.html

From their 10-K filing:

In addition, we have also announced our intent to develop Gen III which we expect to produce at the Tesla Factory after the introduction of Model X. We intend to offer this vehicle at a lower price point and expect to produce it at higher volumes than our Model S. Importantly, we anticipate producing our Gen III vehicle for the mass market and thus we will need a high-volume supply of lithium-ion cells at reasonable prices. While our plan is to attempt to produce lithium-ion cells and finished battery packs for our Gen III vehicles at a new Tesla Gigafactory, our plans for such production are at a very early stage and we have not yet selected a site for the construction of the Tesla Gigafactory nor completed a factory design. In addition, we have no experience in the production of lithium-ion cells, and accordingly we intend to engage partners with significant experience in cell production and to date we have not formalized such partnerships. In addition, the cost of building and operating the Tesla Gigafactory could exceed our current expectations and the Tesla Gigafactory may take longer to bring online than we anticipate. If we are unable to build the Tesla Gigafactory in a timely manner to produce high volumes of quality lithium-ion cells for Gen III at reasonable prices and thus are forced to rely on others to supply us with lithium-ion cells for Gen III, our ability to produce our Gen III vehicles at a price that allows us to sell Gen III profitably could be constrained. Finally, we have very limited experience allocating our available resources among the design and production of multiple models of vehicles, such as Model S (including any variants we may introduce such as right-hand drive), Model X and Gen III. While we intend each of our production vehicles and their variants to meet a distinct segment of the automotive market, our vehicles may end up competing with each other which may delay sales and associated revenue to future periods.

truthisfreedom

(23,148 posts)
18. yep, that's what i'm afraid of, he's going out on a limb again, after all of his NONSTOP successes.
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 02:01 AM
Feb 2014

i mean seriously. he's nothing but failure to you, but there is that little thing called reality.

Mother Muckraker

(116 posts)
22. Study: Lithium-Ion Batteries Can Impact Environment, Health Negatively
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 11:40 PM
Feb 2014
http://www.dailytech.com/Study+LithiumIon+Batteries+Can+Impact+Environment+Health+Negatively/article31678.htm

The researchers found that batteries using cathodes with nickel and cobalt and solvent-based electrode processing are the highest risks for negative health and environmental impacts. These impacts are a result of the production, processing and use of cobalt and nickel metal compounds. The environmental impacts include resource depletion, global warming, and ecological toxicity while the health impacts are poor respiratory, pulmonary and neurological effects.

To lessen such impacts, the study recommends cathode material substitution, recycling of metals from the batteries and solvent-less electrode processing.

The study also found that the electricity grids for charging lithium-ion batteries contribute to global warming and other environmental and health impacts.

“These impacts are sensitive to local and regional grid mixes,” Amarakoon said. “If the batteries in use are drawing power from the grids in the Midwest or South, much of the electricity will be coming from coal-fired plants. If it’s in New England or California, the grids rely more on renewables and natural gas, which emit less greenhouse gases and other toxic pollutants."

Redford

(373 posts)
23. They are coming to Texas as much as it must pain DU
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 12:44 AM
Mar 2014

The other states are just a diversion. Site is already picked out and politicians greased.

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