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brooklynite

(94,737 posts)
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 11:35 PM Mar 2014

Missing Malaysia Airlines plane: Malaysia probing two more passengers on missing flight MH370

Source: Straits Times (Singapore)

Malaysian authorities are investigating the identities of at least two other passengers on a missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370, in addition to two who were found to be using stolen passports, a security official said.

Investigators were verifying the identities with the relevant embassies in Malaysia, said the official, who has knowledge of the investigation and declined to be identified.

The passengers being checked had all bought their tickets through China Southern Airlines, the official said.

Read more: http://www.straitstimes.com/breaking-news/se-asia/story/missing-malaysia-airlines-plane-malaysia-probing-two-more-passengers-mis

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Missing Malaysia Airlines plane: Malaysia probing two more passengers on missing flight MH370 (Original Post) brooklynite Mar 2014 OP
Wow, they really are grasping at straws... seattledo Mar 2014 #1
Do you think American and United ruled out mechanical error XemaSab Mar 2014 #2
So how do you know it's "their" fault The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2014 #3
It can be a long time before anything definite is known jberryhill Mar 2014 #4
It's not hard to make oneself look like the passport photo jsr Mar 2014 #10
It doesn't have to look like you... no one... reACTIONary Mar 2014 #13
Agence France Press just tweeted this octoberlib Mar 2014 #5
I Wonder is it About Average lib87 Mar 2014 #6
In another story, some expert was quoted as saying it would be extremely rare to have TWO stolen alcibiades_mystery Mar 2014 #7
Thank you! lib87 Mar 2014 #8
If a tree falls in the forest...does it make a sound? truebluegreen Mar 2014 #9
My thoughts exactly. bitchkitty Mar 2014 #11
It might have been a hijacking gone wrong.. DCBob Mar 2014 #12
There is nothing nearby to crash into cosmicone Mar 2014 #14
Some speculation over at airliners.net that the Petronas Towers in Kuala Lumpur could have been.. EX500rider Mar 2014 #22
Someone would have used a cellphone if there was any warning at all. McCamy Taylor Mar 2014 #15
Pretty sure a cellphone wouldn't work out in the middle of the ocean (n/t) brett_jv Mar 2014 #16
Authorities are barking up the wrong tree ... brett_jv Mar 2014 #17
Have you found anything more on the passenger with fake Chinese passport? countryjake Mar 2014 #18
Arguably, a Malaysian aircraft isn't "their" transportation... brooklynite Mar 2014 #19
Yes, but now with some Chinese newspapers foisting "blame"... countryjake Mar 2014 #20
Something is not right jennifersp Mar 2014 #21

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
2. Do you think American and United ruled out mechanical error
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 11:45 PM
Mar 2014

before investigating the passengers of the planes that crashed on Sept. 11?

Since they don't have a plane, they don't exactly have a lot to go on.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,858 posts)
3. So how do you know it's "their" fault
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 11:46 PM
Mar 2014

when they haven't even found the plane yet? There are a lot of possibilities and they all have to be investigated.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
4. It can be a long time before anything definite is known
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 11:52 PM
Mar 2014

As I understand it, the missing passports were of an Italian and an Austrian.

It's hard to alter passports, and if you could forge one, that would be easier than stealing one from someone who looks enough like you to pass for the owner.

Are there enough passports on the black market that you can shop for one that looks like you?

reACTIONary

(5,777 posts)
13. It doesn't have to look like you... no one...
Sun Mar 9, 2014, 12:49 PM
Mar 2014

...actually looks at the photo.. the face... the photo.. and does a comparison. In fact, most people DON'T look like their passport photo. I don't.

They just scan them through - if the passport was not reported lost or stolen, they pass.

Biometrics embedded in the passport and verified against the person presenting it would be a way to make this more secure.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
5. Agence France Press just tweeted this
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 11:57 PM
Mar 2014

Agence France-Presse ‏@AFP 6m
#BREAKING: Malaysia probing possible terror link in jet mystery: minister


https://twitter.com/AFP


No other details though.

lib87

(535 posts)
6. I Wonder is it About Average
Sun Mar 9, 2014, 12:41 AM
Mar 2014

...to have 3+ passengers with stolen passports on these type of flights? It would be a good stat to have when reporting this kind of a story.

I hope they find the plane soon.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
7. In another story, some expert was quoted as saying it would be extremely rare to have TWO stolen
Sun Mar 9, 2014, 12:54 AM
Mar 2014

passport passengers on the same flight. I'd guess from that that three would be, well, pretty much what you think.

lib87

(535 posts)
8. Thank you!
Sun Mar 9, 2014, 12:58 AM
Mar 2014

Now I'm starting to think I understand why no one has said the plane crashed but simply keep stating that it went 'missing'.

So sad either way.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
9. If a tree falls in the forest...does it make a sound?
Sun Mar 9, 2014, 09:50 AM
Mar 2014

Obviously I don't know either way with this incident, but if terrorists brought down the plane, wouldn't somebody be bragging about it?

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
12. It might have been a hijacking gone wrong..
Sun Mar 9, 2014, 11:51 AM
Mar 2014

The plan might have been to fly the plane somewhere and crash it into something. Just crashing a plane into the ocean doesn't really strike me as something substantial enough for 21st century terrorists.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
14. There is nothing nearby to crash into
Sun Mar 9, 2014, 07:12 PM
Mar 2014

If this had happened near Beijing, that would be a possibility.

EX500rider

(10,866 posts)
22. Some speculation over at airliners.net that the Petronas Towers in Kuala Lumpur could have been..
Tue Mar 11, 2014, 10:40 PM
Mar 2014

....a possible target. (they're the tallest twin towers in the world) But the hijackers or inside job did not make it for what ever reason.

I am still leaning towards a Helios Airways Flight 522 type scenario but in a descending turn perhaps as the pilots lost consciousness.

And then the plane flew off on a tangent under radar and possibly made a semi-soft landing and sank. Or flew so far out of the search zone that the wreckage may not be found for months.

brett_jv

(1,245 posts)
17. Authorities are barking up the wrong tree ...
Mon Mar 10, 2014, 05:02 AM
Mar 2014

They need to be looking at the passengers to see if they can find: A recent lottery winner, a guy in a wheelchair, a doctor bringing his father back to his homeland for burial, a female criminal being escorted to prison by an FBI agent, a handsome Southern conman, a English junkie who was once in a one-hit wonder band, a pregnant Korean couple on the run from the woman's evil corporatist father, and stepbrother/stepsister who are in some weird relationship-thing.

They should also look into the following numbers: 4, 8, 15, 16, 23, and 42.

Oh, and tell them that Jacob sent you.

In all seriousness, though ... I hope that SOMEHOW these people are alive and okay somewhere. And if not, I pray that they did not suffer. This is a sad and terrible thing. My heart goes out to the families of the passengers right now.

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
18. Have you found anything more on the passenger with fake Chinese passport?
Tue Mar 11, 2014, 06:17 PM
Mar 2014

That whole part of this mystery appears to have been dropped from the radar of the investigation, as most media seemed intent on concentrating on the Iranian connection, identifying those other two guys using stolen passports.

Since China's airports, train, and subway system were on high alert all last week, days before this Malaysian jet incident, it seems to me that might be the correct angle to be checking into. Even the fact that China received an anonymous tip concerning terrorist attacks aimed at their Transportation on March 4 has gotten little attention.

Warning of ‘possible terrorist attack on China’ received by Taiwan days before Malaysia Airlines jet vanished
http://www.scmp.com/news/asia/article/1445314/warning-possible-terrorist-attack-china-received-taiwan-days-malaysia

Taiwan's spy chief revealed yesterday that the island's security officials had last week received a warning about possible terrorist attacks on the mainland.

National Security Bureau chief Tsai De-sheng told a legislative committee that the agency had passed on a warning of planned attacks on Beijing airport and the city's subway system to mainland authorities after receiving it on March 4.

Tsai did not specify how the warning, which came three days after a knife attack at Kunming railway station left 29 civilians dead, had been relayed to the bureau.

However, security chiefs were believed to have received the alert from Taiwan-based China Airlines, following a phone call to the airline earlier in the day from a man who said he wanted to warn of possible terrorist activity.

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
20. Yes, but now with some Chinese newspapers foisting "blame"...
Tue Mar 11, 2014, 09:49 PM
Mar 2014

on the Malaysian Airlines, practically attacking both the airline and the Malaysian government for the mishandling of this massive search and severely criticizing the lax security that allowed those two stolen passports to be overlooked, wouldn't you think that Western media might be pointing out the "terror" alert that China had received, rather than totally downplaying any terrorism aspect to this missing jet, as they're mostly doing on the MSM today?

Even yesterday, CNN's Wolfie had on two different guys who suggested that a fire in the cockpit or even a broken windshield could explain this mysterious malfunction of the automatic communication devices that the two pilots had in front of them. And both of those "experts" said that, while it shouldn't be discounted, it didn't seem probable to them that any terrorism was involved. I guess I just don't get it...the majority of the passengers on that plane were citizens of China headed for Beijing so the warning that China had received seems quite pertinent, to me.

jennifersp

(1 post)
21. Something is not right
Tue Mar 11, 2014, 09:51 PM
Mar 2014

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Something is really not right here. Is it an act of terrorism, stealing of aircraft, a crash or exploded in the air? Let's hope and pray the passengers are alright.

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