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hue

(4,949 posts)
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 12:36 PM Mar 2014

Paul Ryan Blames Poverty On Lazy ‘Inner City’ Men

Source: THINK PROGRESS

House Budget Chairman Paul Ryan (R-WI) previewed his upcoming legislative proposals for reforming America’s poverty programs during an appearance on Bill Bennett’s Morning in America Wednesday, hinting that he would focus on creating work requirements for men “in our inner cities” and dealing with the “real culture problem” in these communities. “We have got this tailspin of culture, in our inner cities in particular, of men not working and just generations of men not even thinking about working or learning the value and the culture of work, and so there is a real culture problem here that has to be dealt with,” he said.

Ryan also cited Charles Murray, a conservative social scientist who believes African-Americans are, as a population, less intelligent than whites due to genetic differences and that poverty remains a national problem because “a lot of poor people are born lazy.”

Ryan’s comments come a week after he released a 204-page report analyzing the effectiveness of the nation’s anti-poverty programs 50 years after President Lyndon Johnson declared a national War on Poverty. The former GOP vice presidential candidate, who argues that federal anti-poverty programs have contributed to the nation’s high poverty rate and “created what’s known as the poverty trap,” is expected to offer reforms to the programs in his upcoming FY 2015 budget.

Read more: http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2014/03/12/3394871/ryan-poverty-inner-city/

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Paul Ryan Blames Poverty On Lazy ‘Inner City’ Men (Original Post) hue Mar 2014 OP
Are all those GM workers who got laid off in Rock County a few years ago lazy? undeterred Mar 2014 #1
This sounds as racist as I would expect this guy to be. Nika Mar 2014 #2
Oh. My. God. Scairp Mar 2014 #42
The Same Inner Cities Where All the Jobs Went Off-Shore? mckara Mar 2014 #3
Subtlety: Not an Irish Trait africanadian Mar 2014 #4
I'd like to hear his proposals for semi-rural trailer parks, as well. TwilightGardener Mar 2014 #5
Only way the GOP thugs can campaign is to pull the race card BumRushDaShow Mar 2014 #6
Inner-city Black men are causing more Whites to need public assistance than any other race Ikonoklast Mar 2014 #30
Is that one of these gated communities!!! I think Ryan is channeling Ayn Rand!!!! Theyletmeeatcake2 Mar 2014 #45
i really don't want to do the 60's civil rights movement again dembotoz Mar 2014 #7
This Ryan Hypocrite LittleGirl Mar 2014 #8
His hypocrisy represents the domestic policy version of the Republican chicken hawk. kairos12 Mar 2014 #10
Like all his R brethren, I'm sure Ryan has had a long history of hard work Bigredhunk Mar 2014 #9
So inner-city jobless - lazy people. Rural jobless - core GOP voters LynneSin Mar 2014 #11
Ryan is a professional LIAR!! He blows lies as easily as he exhales air!! hue Mar 2014 #12
well that dog whistle kinda sounds like the regular kind CreekDog Mar 2014 #13
Here we go again more bullshit tartan2 Mar 2014 #14
So if you are recently unemployed...you are lazy? Nevermind you were working. nt kelliekat44 Mar 2014 #15
Lee Atwater's racial newspeak still lives. alp227 Mar 2014 #16
As a country we seemed to have regressed to the 1950s. Beacool Mar 2014 #17
only the negative aspects of the 50's, olddad56 Mar 2014 #24
Yes Ryan, we already know you're racist. tridim Mar 2014 #18
Brown shirts geretogo Mar 2014 #19
Probably Never Sat Down With an Inner City Man erpowers Mar 2014 #20
True, and he doesn't intend to treestar Mar 2014 #40
I see that the GOP's outreach to minority voters is going well.... CTyankee Mar 2014 #21
Perhaps this will resonate around the country.. Stuart G Mar 2014 #26
Ryan did everything short of using the n word... CTyankee Mar 2014 #28
Has this jagoff ever had a job other than one of those disgusting "government jobs"? nt Guy Whitey Corngood Mar 2014 #22
He must mean all the techies who are moving into SF's Mission District KamaAina Mar 2014 #23
Greedy Wall St. investors > "Lazy" Main St. workers Fearless Mar 2014 #25
"Lazy ‘Inner City’ Men", huh? Sounds a lot like a sort of "n" word. marble falls Mar 2014 #27
They are nothing but racist .. pure and simple .. blame the ''inner city" lazy people for > YOHABLO Mar 2014 #29
So poverty only exists in the inner cities, then, right? n/t hughee99 Mar 2014 #31
from the guy whose education KatyMan Mar 2014 #32
Paul Ryan yankee dandee Mar 2014 #33
The hell? shenmue Mar 2014 #34
Same as Rmoney's, except he's not even trying to hide it ("47%"). Amonester Mar 2014 #43
Here's the funny part - Ryan, Cruz, and Rand all live with foot in mouth, toby jo Mar 2014 #35
Paul Ryan needs to spend a couple of years in the inner city... handmade34 Mar 2014 #36
He must be running for president yurbud Mar 2014 #37
That's code for "blah people" blkmusclmachine Mar 2014 #38
Oh don't worry Paul, we solved that problem by locking them all up. Warren Stupidity Mar 2014 #39
Taking the racist Murray at his word treestar Mar 2014 #41
Ryan's assertions are bad enough but Enthusiast Mar 2014 #44
idiot is focusing on "creating work requirements" but where are the jobs? wordpix Mar 2014 #46
This is so despicable. myrna minx Mar 2014 #47
What's that you hear, Lassie? What is it, girl? n/t Orsino Mar 2014 #48
Please proceed, Governor... I mean, Congressman. (nt) Nine Mar 2014 #49

undeterred

(34,658 posts)
1. Are all those GM workers who got laid off in Rock County a few years ago lazy?
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 12:43 PM
Mar 2014

I don't think the poverty in Wisconsin's first district fits the slur you are making, Mr. Ryan.

Nika

(546 posts)
2. This sounds as racist as I would expect this guy to be.
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 12:43 PM
Mar 2014

The Charles Murray citation by him is damning proof of his racial leanings.

Scairp

(2,749 posts)
42. Oh. My. God.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 12:34 AM
Mar 2014

Of course he's racist, he's a Tea Bagger isn't he? But to be so blatant about it, that is new. They aren't even trying to hide it anymore. I would assume he believes "inner city women" have work ethic, I guess, that is somehow missing in these hypothetical men, and they have jobs. Or does he believe they sit home collecting welfare, driving the Cadillacs they bought with food stamps and their AFDC checks, waiting for men to develop work ethic and support them at last? Not only is this extraordinarily racist but it doesn't even make sense. I have no idea how this schmuck thinks he's going to be president saying shit like this, he's just so completely disconnected from reality. The kicker is, this is getting little media attention, so far as I can tell, or at least I myself have not seen it anywhere else but here. Before, I thought Ryan was just annoying but now I really despise him. And so in time will millions of other registered voters.

 

mckara

(1,708 posts)
3. The Same Inner Cities Where All the Jobs Went Off-Shore?
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 12:49 PM
Mar 2014

Conservative support of Neoliberal economics caused the problem, not the "inner city" men who would be working if their manufacturing jobs were not 7,000 miles away. That's a long commute by bus for a 45 cents an hour job!

BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
6. Only way the GOP thugs can campaign is to pull the race card
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 12:53 PM
Mar 2014

while ignoring this (where there are far more than the population of anyone in the "inner city", which is the "new" old code word) -



Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
30. Inner-city Black men are causing more Whites to need public assistance than any other race
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 05:52 PM
Mar 2014

in this nation., by sheer numbers.

Neat trick, I wonder how they pull that off?

Theyletmeeatcake2

(348 posts)
45. Is that one of these gated communities!!! I think Ryan is channeling Ayn Rand!!!!
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 08:58 AM
Mar 2014

And he calls himself a Christian but believes in her malignant festering gibberish masquerading as a philosophy...the more I read about her survival of the fittest the more you realise she was full of crap!!!

LittleGirl

(8,287 posts)
8. This Ryan Hypocrite
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 12:57 PM
Mar 2014

Makes me so mad sometimes.

You know, the guy who had a Father die while he was growing up and his Mother and siblings received government Social Security Survivor benefits. Just like my family did in the late 70's after my Father died of heart failure in '75.

Those government programs saved my family from poverty, homelessness and starvation; even though my Mother worked in a factory. With a union representation that kept her employed with decent pay and retirement benefits she enjoys now at 82 despite being widowed at age 42.

This Ryan Hypocrite's family was also saved like mine from poverty, homelessness and starvation and yet, this government beneficiary and TAKER (still !!) claims it's the poor's fault they are poor. He just makes me want to puke.

Bigredhunk

(1,350 posts)
9. Like all his R brethren, I'm sure Ryan has had a long history of hard work
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 01:10 PM
Mar 2014

They're the softest bunch of "men" I've ever seen. Their pols, their think tank people, their radio hosts…they're all such a bunch of doughy puds. Even a guy like Ryan who isn't overweight…still soft. Not a callous on any of their hands. None of their faces looks like it ever needs shaving. They're just………soft.

tartan2

(314 posts)
14. Here we go again more bullshit
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 01:50 PM
Mar 2014

from the GOP'S best blatent lying machine: Paul Ryan! Hells Bells I just can't stand this pathetic excuse of a man.

alp227

(32,030 posts)
16. Lee Atwater's racial newspeak still lives.
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 02:10 PM
Mar 2014
http://www.thenation.com/article/170841/exclusive-lee-atwaters-infamous-1981-interview-southern-strategy

But would Ryan be talking like this if he became vice president 2 years ago? Ryan can get away with Atwaterese because of his right leaning congressional district.

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
17. As a country we seemed to have regressed to the 1950s.
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 02:22 PM
Mar 2014

It seems that we are all going to have to re-fight the same wars: civil rights, women's rights, voting rights, etc.

What the hell is going on?????



olddad56

(5,732 posts)
24. only the negative aspects of the 50's,
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 04:17 PM
Mar 2014

That is the plan, makes the masses easier to control. Especially when we dumb em down and keep them in poverty.

geretogo

(1,281 posts)
19. Brown shirts
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 03:18 PM
Mar 2014

This guy represents the same mentality that existed in Germany in the 30's .
It was the lazy gypsies and the Jews that were bringing Germany down .
If people like Ryan get any more power I fear for the survival of this once
Democratic Republic . Germany was a democracy before Hitler .

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
20. Probably Never Sat Down With an Inner City Man
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 03:21 PM
Mar 2014

I doubt that Paul Ryan has ever taken the time to sit down and talk to a man from the inner city. Most likely he has never asked an inner city man how he feels about work, or why he does not have a job.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
21. I see that the GOP's outreach to minority voters is going well....
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 03:28 PM
Mar 2014

At this rate, I'm sure they'll be in good shape by the next presidential election...

Stuart G

(38,434 posts)
26. Perhaps this will resonate around the country..
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 04:35 PM
Mar 2014

Yes, it is proof of what you wrote. "Outreach to minority voters" is nothing but four words that mean nothing. Let's see......
"lazy"...hmm...sounds racist to me....could that be????

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
28. Ryan did everything short of using the n word...
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 04:44 PM
Mar 2014

I'm at a whole new level of shock with this one...Ryan isn't some backwoods yahoo mouthing off. He ran as a vice presidential candidate...he must have known he was talking to a national audience...I guess he has no shame and could no care less...

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
29. They are nothing but racist .. pure and simple .. blame the ''inner city" lazy people for >
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 05:45 PM
Mar 2014

all of the problems. Where are the jobs? Why has the rich sucked up all the wealth? They don't give a damn about ''inner city" unless they can bulldoze it over to build gambling casinos.

KatyMan

(4,198 posts)
32. from the guy whose education
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 05:57 PM
Mar 2014

Social Security paid for. Y'know, my dad died when I was 9 and we lived on Social Security, but somehow it didn't pay for my college because, oh, WE HAD TO EAT. Fuck this guy.

 

yankee dandee

(12 posts)
33. Paul Ryan
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 06:10 PM
Mar 2014

Well now!
First---Has Paul Ryan lived a while in the "inner cities" to become and expert? I haven't, and I cannot comment coherently on anything about the "inner city"
And, does he ever address the reasons for an "inner city"? I know them, or at least I think I do---poverty due to total indifference or outright hatred of African Americans. Why hire one of them when you can get an illegal to work for nothing and without the attitudes, right?

Rich white men are sooo brilliant at telling what the problem is about the "blacks".

Rich white men never consider themselves racists even when they use the N-bomb.

The measure of intelligence in African Americans? White-oriented facts using words even professors don't use.

Look, I live in a predominantly white neighborhood--only two African Americans families, a few Asians, no Latinos that I know of....so

who the Hell am I to claim to be an expert the "African American condition? Or Asians, or Hispanics, or any other minority? About as much expertise as Ryan or Palin or any of the other evangelical self-righteous nincompoops!

Amonester

(11,541 posts)
43. Same as Rmoney's, except he's not even trying to hide it ("47%").
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 04:48 AM
Mar 2014

And he's not as good with robbing everybody for half a billion.

 

toby jo

(1,269 posts)
35. Here's the funny part - Ryan, Cruz, and Rand all live with foot in mouth,
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 06:54 PM
Mar 2014

next election they'll actually be whining about why the minorities don't vote for them.

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
36. Paul Ryan needs to spend a couple of years in the inner city...
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 07:36 PM
Mar 2014

until the Republicans talk seriously about jobs programs, they have no reason to talk


also... this Charles Murray? "Murray...proposing something to replace welfare...Give $10,000 (to begin with) per year, tax free, to every adult over 21, with the stipulation that $3,000 of it be spent on health insurance and the strong recommendation that $2,000 be invested toward retirement income..."

I am disgusted by the whole lot of them

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
37. He must be running for president
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 07:51 PM
Mar 2014

That kind of talk could get him the GOP nomination, but it would make it tippet to win the general election.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
41. Taking the racist Murray at his word
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 11:00 PM
Mar 2014

what does he propose to do - if people are born that way, shouldn't be take care of them? Rather than let them live in poverty?

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
44. Ryan's assertions are bad enough but
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 07:14 AM
Mar 2014

he even cited racist Charles Murray. This should effectively end any presidential aspirations that Ryan has. IMHO, of course.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
46. idiot is focusing on "creating work requirements" but where are the jobs?
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 09:16 AM
Mar 2014

Gov. from feds down cut school costs by cutting teachers/adjuncts/vocational programs due to not increasing taxes on the rich. Then inner city kids living in poverty with out-of-work parents don't like school and/or aren't getting the help they need. Then they become adults and even if they graduate hs, which many do not, they can't find jobs due to poor skills or no jobs in their communities.

My former students who are great young men can't find jobs. One is now a bus boy making less than min. wage + tips (meager) and the other, who has better academic skills, is still looking for work that's not too far away. Neither can afford a car so any job has to be near public transportation and can't cost too much for that.

Ryan is so STOOOOOPID. He needs to do a LONG stint in an inner city school or soup kitchen to know what he's talking about.

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