108 listed missing in mudslide, report says
Source: Associated Press
ARLINGTON, Wash. (AP) There are 108 names on the list of people who've been reported missing or unaccounted for in the weekend mudslide in Washington state, authorities said Monday.
Snohomish County emergency management director John Pennington said that's the consolidated list from various sources that authorities are working from, and it doesn't mean there are that many injuries or fatalities.
"It's a soft 108," Pennington said at a news conference
Among the missing are construction workers coming into the neighborhood and people just driving by. Pennington added the slide occurred on a Saturday morning, when more people were likely to be home.
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AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)This is way bigger than the local news has been reporting.
Last I saw was 3 dead, one injured. Nothing about more than a hundred missing.
maxsolomon
(33,400 posts)The final total will not be 108 dead in a 1 square mile slide. Oso, WA is not that dense.
Botany
(70,589 posts)But still the death toll is gonna be higher then 8.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Botany
(70,589 posts)..... and I don't see how anybody from the side of the mountain that slipped, to
across the highway, and down the river could have lived. From over 50 feet in
height down to a few feet tall the slide looks like it had massive pressure and
weight.
A ton of soil is 4'x4'x2' (rough)
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Horrible way to die.
maxsolomon
(33,400 posts)Look for Rowan, WA on an aerial map - about a mile east of Oso.
The top of the slide face is outlined across the river from Steelhead Dr. - it slipped about 6, 7 years ago and filled the river channel.
Steelhead Drive up to C-Post Rd. is where the slide occurred. Many more structures than I had thought - must be some newer retirement homes.
Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)On a report explaining why rescue workers couldn't risk entering
the area?
KT2000
(20,588 posts)one official (fire dept. I believe) did describe it as quicksand.
VA_Jill
(9,999 posts)My son was caught in a mudslide once, just a small one. He was driving a car full of teenagers, 5 or 6 I think, doing about 20 mph, and the mud just came along, carried them down a hill and rolled them over. Nobody was hurt, thank goodness, but everyone was terrified and the car was totaled. Scary.
I'm glad that your son and the other teens were alright. Scary indeed.
question everything
(47,537 posts)In a story I read this morning, there was a comment that yesterday rescuers flying in a helicopter could hear calls for help, but could not land there.
I hope that they found them.
Someone mentioned the term liquefaction..
uppityperson
(115,681 posts)John Pennington, who heads the countys Department of Emergency Management, quickly added that the reports are vague and insists the number of victims will not be nearly that large. He called 108 a soft number.
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Todays operation at the site will include the use of aircraft, search dogs and technical teams to probe the ground. The search has been difficult due to the consistency of the mud, which has caused rescuers to sink. Rescuers are digging through muddy debris that is 20 feet or more deep in some areas.
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Going into detail about the slide site, Pennington said there are 59 vacant lots in the slide area, and another 49 lots had some sort of structure meaning a house, a cabin or some type of possible dwelling. Of all of the structures, 25 were likely occupied full-time. Pennington said that because the slide happened on a Saturday, more people likely were at home, not at work.....
uppityperson
(115,681 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)the slide? I hope they are just waiting for it to breach on its own.
maxsolomon
(33,400 posts)they aren't that worried about it - at least that was on the news last night.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)... but they are still talking about the missing plane on cable news.
uppityperson
(115,681 posts)Plat map
These links are local, some about the slide, the people, etc. It is heartbreaking. The mud is so deep and liquid they are not able to get out onto a lot of it yet, finding more bodies as they do.
http://www.seattlepi.com/news/us/article/Washington-slide-death-toll-14-search-continues-5343142.php
http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2023215066_mudslidemondayxml.html
http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2023211593_mudslidesciencexml.html
uppityperson
(115,681 posts)In addition, during a Monday evening news conference officials said they have received 176 reports of missing people after Saturday's deadly slide, which is an increase from 108 said earlier in the day.
During an earlier news conference, Snohomish County Emergency Management Director John Pennington said there were 108 report doesn't mean there are 108 injuries or fatalities, but it's the consolidated list of those reported missing from various sources that authorities are working from.
"In some cases that list is very detailed -- John with brown hair blue eyes and lived in a particular neighborhood -- in a lot of cases it's a name like Frank -- I met him once I think he lived over there," said Pennington....
http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2023215066_mudslidemondayxml.html
Fourteen people are confirmed dead from the massive mudslide in Snohomish County, after searchers found six more bodies this afternoon.
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President Obama signed an emergency declaration today, allowing FEMA and other agencies to coordinate relief efforts as needed.
uppityperson
(115,681 posts)Friends and family who got out are saying who was with them that didn't. And some are known for sure. More are people who may be, can't be gotten hold of yet, etc.
The situation sucks.