Russia Warned U.S. About Boston Marathon Bomb Suspect Tsarnaev: Report

[elleng]

Source: nyt/reuters

Russian authorities warned the FBI in 2011 about Tamerlan Tsarnaev, one of two Chechen brothers accused of carrying out last year's Boston Marathon bombings, but U.S. authorities missed chances to detain him, NBC News reported on Tuesday.

Citing a congressional report it said could be released by the House of Representatives Homeland Security Committee as soon as Thursday, NBC News said the Russian intelligence agency FSB cabled the FBI about its concerns in March 2011, warning that Tsarnaev was known to have associated with militant Islamists.

The network said the FBI opened an investigation of Tsarnaev that month conducted by a joint task force of federal, state and local authorities. Tsarnaev was interviewed in person, and a memo was sent to the Customs and Border Protection database called TECS that would trigger an alert whenever he left or re-entered the United States.

But the investigation was closed in June 2011 after finding Tsarnaev had no links to terrorism, NBC quoted the report as saying.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2014/03/25/us/25reuters-usa-explosions-boston-congress.html?hp

[tea and oranges]

1. K&R

Astonishing! Shocking incompetence. An effing typo. For all our tax dollars spent, apparently there's no money to have qa/qc controls in place.

Tell us again, how we need the NSA more than civil liberties, please, most trusted leaders of the free world.

[davidpdx]

2. So how do you like your tea?

[alcibiades_mystery]

3. all the way from China, I suspect

...

[davidpdx]

4. I was thinking of something more home brewed

Maybe a 2010 vintage....

[alcibiades_mystery]

5. The vintage on tea and oranges is more like 1967

It's a lyrics from one of the most famous songs of the 1960's.

[freshwest]

8. Well, the last time I heard such media 'outrage' over the FBI was during these days:

Of course they want the FBI, EPA, DOE, OSHA, CIA, NSA, DOD, SSA, NLRB, IRS and all the rest of the alphabets defunded and they've done all they can to MAKE IT SO since 2010.

Then they all screamed BENGHAZI!!! like a Greek chorus after they refused to pay for embassy security.

See how that works?

Make sure they don't have operating funds, then whip them for not getting the job done. I'm sure we can get all the work done during a government shut down, stuff like that. Why weren't the national monuments open when Palin and the crew appeared?

What massive incompetence, the howls of outrage and the flying of the Confederate flag in front of the White House gates, were entirely justified!!!

Now, wash, rinse, repeat.



I find DU criticism of the FBI on this matter to be a bit suspect since the experts at Infowars and Glennbeckistan promised us Obama did the whole thing, directly, as a false flag.

TO TAKE OUR GUNS!!!

So of course, in this version, Obama defunded the FBI years before, to make sure it would happen or he just didn't have the sense to listen to Russia. They know so much better than we do who his lurking around in the USA.

KGB, anyone?

Despite his terrible spendthrift ways, he withheld all that money to fund the FBI!! See, LIHOP! He was responsible for 9/11, did you know that?

Bad, bad Obama!!!

Apply icon ALL OVER THIS liberally as needed.

[cheapdate]

15. Huzzah! Brilliant!

Another take is, of course, shit happens. You can't police every individual in America and sometimes a determined and deranged individual is going to do something terrible. Overblowing matters like this has the effect of motivating our leaders to try to be more authoritarian.

[freshwest]

20. And I think if they let 'one innocent man' as they suspected go free, to not discriminate based on a

biased report from a situation on the other side of the world that was widely condemned, is that negligence?

Do we want to create a world fitting the Alex Jones' view:

“...And now they’re mounting them with ground-penetrating radar that looks right through your wall, while you’re on the toilet, having sex with your wife.”

Kinda kinky there, huh? But I listened to the show when a frantic caller asked if the motion detection devices that flush the toilet when users are too lazy to do, meant she was being watched ?!!

Alex assured her the police were indeed watching her in the toilet. And at that point, I was ROFLMAO at the cupidity of the anti-science beliefs of the cult members.

Yes, they are watching you go potty! They can't see your face, but will recognize your ass the next time you moon a cop! The Police State measures all your farts!

Alex Jones

Ideology: Patriot Movement

Alex Jones knows how deep the rabbit hole goes.

Every week from his studio in Austin, Texas, he dives into red-faced tirades exposing the forces that threaten to enslave all human life on the planet. The conspiracy always boils down to about the same thing: eugenics operations, the militarization of the police, a cabal of wealthy corporations and the United Nations involved in a fiendish plot to control the world.

Five days a week, online and on more than 60 radio stations nationwide, “The Alex Jones Show,” along with a pair of websites he runs (Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com), serves as the tumultuous showcase for his overactive imagination — a worldview governed by logic-leaping deductions and heedless pronouncements. His website is chock full of apocalyptic headlines and ads for products like “recession-proof coins” and manuals on How to Survive Martial Law in America. On the air, he’s given to stream-of-consciousness rants.

Influenced heavily by the conspiracy-minded John Birch Society, Jones ran unsuccessfully for a Texas House seat in 2000 as a Republican but said he doesn’t follow the platform of either of the two major parties. He has described his own politics as libertarian.

Jones has accused the federal government of involvement in the Oklahoma City bombing and the 9/11 attacks, said that the Branch Davidian cultists in Texas were purposely murdered by authorities, claimed that FEMA is secretly building concentration camps for liberty-loving citizens, and issued a series of videos with hair-raising, B horror-film titles. A sampling: “911: The Road to Tyranny,” “Police State 3: Total Enslavement,” “The Masters of Terror: Exposed,” “New World Order: Blueprint of Madmen” and “The Obama Deception: The Mask Comes Off.”

Although it hardly seems possible, Jones’ fecund imagination now seems to be sprouting even more conspiracy theories than before.

Last year, for example, after Jared Lee Loughner went on his January 2011 rampage in Tucson, Ariz., killing six and wounding U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, Jones told Rolling Stone: “This whole thing stinks to high heaven… My gut tells me this was a staged mind-control operation. The government employs geometric psychological-warfare experts that know exactly how to indirectly manipulate unstable people through the media.”

It’s simply a matter of finding the truth, Jones says. Or something like that.

In August 2011, he featured on Infowars an article that called the Department of Homeland Security’s year-old “If you see something, say something” terrorism-awareness campaign a racist conspiracy to “characterize predominantly white, middle class, politically engaged Americans as domestic extremists.”

The program, which actually encourages people to consider “behavior, rather than appearance” when considering whether to report suspicious activity, entails a series of public service announcements designed to drive home that point. What piqued Jones was a 10-minute PSA in which most of the “terrorists” are white, while the citizens who report their suspicious activities are all minorities. He milked the issue for at least a month. “What do you think of [DHS’] rebranding that the terrorists aren’t Al Qaeda anymore?” he said on his Aug. 18 radio show. “It’s that veteran, it’s that gun owner, it’s that farmer… it’s that white person. Whites are the new Al Qaeda.”

Besides exploiting racial animosities, Jones’s conspiracy theories often appeal to the fears of the antigovernment “Patriot” movement.

At the movement’s previous peak in the 1990s, the “black helicopter” was a symbol of its cartoonish insistence that the government would soon be coming after freedom-loving dissidents who knew the truth about the New World Order. Jones gave these fears a 21st century update in an October 2011 online broadcast. He obsessed over news that the sheriff of Montgomery County, Texas, had used a federal grant to buy an Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (also known as a drone) called the ShadowHawk. The laptop-controlled, miniature helicopter comes equipped with a powerful zoom camera, infrared heat-seeking optics and crowd-stopping cartridges.

To Jones, this was not simply a police department taking advantage of the latest law enforcement technologies but a glimpse at the insidious machinery agents of the New World Order are deploying in the night skies in advance of martial law. “They’ve got large unmanned drones,” Jones warned. “They’ve got small drones... And they’ve got million-dollar systems up there flying around with cops in control of them, surveilling you. And now they’re mounting them with ground-penetrating radar that looks right through your wall, while you’re on the toilet, having sex with your wife.”

Jones promotes false flag dreckt about Newtown, Aurora, the Sikh temple and Boston. And regarding his homophobia:

This is the newest SPLC link of his page there, not as funny as the former page. But if one hasn't listened to the show and I did for a long time trying to figure it out, you find he's ust a Bircher in the hip new style CT clothing although they're some of the original CT. He's going much more to the far right religious side now and last listen I had, he is straight hell fire and brimstone preaching.

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/profiles/alex-jones

But I printed the old page, no longer linked, just for shits and giggles! I can see it now, a cop watching my sorry ass in the toilet, going blind...

And as you say, it's not just the CTers believing this stuff. The cops have dealt with Sovereign Citizens who gun them down and others who blow things up, yes, for reals, like the place in San Francisco where the guy was listening to Beck.

It didn't help that real people believe that the ACA requires you to take the 'mark of the beast' and all that, and have threatened real people who dared to vote for it in 2010, so yes, it escalates.

It's part of the furor of the Teas. I don't want that, but I think there are forces in America who really love the idea of blood flowing down the street.

Thanks for the comment, hope you enjoyed this one...

[cheapdate]

27. Yes. Enjoyed it. Alex Jones is like a character from a Vonnegut novel.

We have crazies and Tea Partiers in abundance where I live in Murfreesboro, TN. I like to get out and challenge them every chance I can. There was a court hearing in Murfreesboro on Monday where some crazies are doing everything they can to disrupt the lives of our local Islamic community (this is just the latest chapter in what has been ongoing for a few years now).

Normally, I would have gone to the hearing, just for the hell of it, but unfortunately I'm working out of town. Chaos ensued. Crazy Tea Party Republican Lou Ann Zelenik was in rare form, demanding cameras be put away, shrieking about Muslims, etc.

[freshwest]

7. I grew up on this stuff. Every morning with a poached egg, marmalade, english muffins, etc:

Constant Comment Tea

R.C. Bigelow, Inc, better known as the Bigelow Tea Company, is an American tea company based in Fairfield, Connecticut. The company was founded by Ruth C. Bigelow in the late 1940s, based on a recipe she marketed as "Constant Comment" tea. Bigelow is still a 100% family-owned business[1] that markets over 50 varieties of tea, including black and green, as well as herbal teas, all of which are still blended in Fairfield. They also own America's only tea plantation, in Charleston, South Carolina. Although still a privately held company, in 2009 their annual sales were reported to be about $90 million and they have 350 employees.

Leonard Cohen refers to Constant Comment tea in his 1966 song "Suzanne" in the line, "And she feeds you tea and oranges/That come all the way from China." The song began as a poem in 1966, was recorded as a song in 1966 by Judy Collins, and in 1967 by Cohen himself. It refers to a platonic relationship that Cohen had with Suzanne Verdal, the girlfriend of the sculptor Armand Vaillancourt, and visits that Cohen would make to her Montreal apartment to drink Constant Comment tea and take walks by the water.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigelow_Tea_Company

[sheshe2]

13. And so it starts again, freshwest.

Less than 30 days out to the Boston Marathon.

Boston Strong~



I plan to be there.

[freshwest]

16. Thank you! I hope you will keep us posted on the event and the weather cooperates! (((HUGS))) Boston

[sheshe2]

19. I will be in the burbs

and will take pictures!

It is going to be one hell of a celebration of life. Yes we can!

[tea and oranges]

11. 'Bout 1/8th tsp sugar. Will you be serving?

[seveneyes]

24. What does tea have to do with FBI incompetence?

Wrong parsing of metadata?

[Todays_Illusion]

17. But, but, look at how fast they were found, weren't you impressed?

[MannyGoldstein]

6. This is old, old news IIRC

When I heard about the Spy On Everyone program last summer, I was immediately struck by the thought that our intelligence apparatus can't follow up on being told that a specific person is a big problem (the incident in the OP), yet they claim that harvesting data wholesale will allow them to find actionable needles in haystacks.

Absurd.

The harvested data's only realistic use in their hands is for great mischief.

[LisaL]

9. My feelings exactly.

I guess there is not much time left after collecting so much data on everybody in US to actually investigate someone who is an actual threat.

[Todays_Illusion]

18. Pretty clear who is considered to be the real threat.

Of course it may just be mining for marketing, ideas and dollars.

[tea and oranges]

12. It is old news

but the report is new. The typo thing just blows me away. These are amateurs. They have tremendous power.

Never mind.

To the curious, please check my profile & note date I joined. I can't imagine why I didn't see it coming...

[DeSwiss]

22. The problem with collecting all the data.....

...is that you end up collecting ALL the data. Knowing too much is just as bad as not knowing enough.

- If you don't know what you need to know, when you need to know it.

[alp227]

10. more links

Original Reuters.com link

Original NBC link

[freshwest]

21. GOP House stirs up another investigation for the 2014 elections from old news. nt

[Pterodactyl]

14. Prediction: The Russians won't be as cooperative in the future.

[DeSwiss]

23. This obviously means......

...the Security State is way too small. Nothing a few more defense bucks can't solve, though. I say, we'll need at least $2 billion in defense spending to correct this problem. Some more humvees and stormtrooper helmets for the guys covering the civvy's in the cities, and maybe some flack jackets.

- Tops.

K&R

[Maedhros]

25. MOAR DRONES!!11!

The answer is always more drones.

[TxVietVet]

26. Let me get this straight.... the US Security Appartus will hold any AMERICAN......

who's name is similar to a name on the "Do Not Fly" list, yet misspell a very foreign-sounding Russian name and he gets in and out of the country.
WTF........
Maybe they could change the program watchlist to include various spellings of a name NOW.

Your tax dollars at work.

At least the conservanazi republikans suspect anyone who isn't a white true believer gunnut.

I'm sure this is all comforting for the survivors.