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Galraedia

(5,027 posts)
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 07:09 PM Mar 2014

Louie Gohmert’s logic: Companies are subject to laws so they can believe in God like people too

Source: Raw Story

Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) argued on Wednesday that corporations like Hobby Lobby should be able to legally practice religion — and be able to deny birth control to women — if they were also subject to criminal prosecution under U.S. law.

During an interview with Family Research Council President Tony Perkins, Gohmert said that he was “shocked” to hear the Obama administration say that corporations could not form religious beliefs during Tuesday’s oral arguments before the Supreme Court.

“This is a Justice Department that has indicted corporations for forming intent to commit a crime,” the former Texas judge said. “Well, Tony, if you can as a corporation through your directors and officers, form the intent to commit a crime, then you can certainly, through your officers and directors form an intent to have religious beliefs.”

“And if every one of your directors and officers has the same exact religious beliefs, whether your Amish and have formed a corporation or any other religious group — Quakers or whatever the group is — certainly a corporation can, if they can have intent as the Justice Department repeatedly proves in court, then they can certainly have religious beliefs.”

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/03/27/louie-gohmerts-logic-companies-are-subject-to-laws-so-they-can-believe-in-god-like-people-too/



The stupid. It burns.
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Louie Gohmert’s logic: Companies are subject to laws so they can believe in God like people too (Original Post) Galraedia Mar 2014 OP
Then they should pay the individual income tax rate. greymattermom Mar 2014 #1
Five skeins xxqqqzme Mar 2014 #2
If corporations are people, TexasTowelie Mar 2014 #3
I will believe corporations are people awoke_in_2003 Mar 2014 #21
I will believe corporations are people DetlefK Mar 2014 #26
Well, walk into any board room awoke_in_2003 Mar 2014 #31
Time for Alan Grayson to introduce a Corporations are People law greymattermom Mar 2014 #4
Corporations? Subject to the law? Brigid Mar 2014 #5
my religion says child labor is okay so let's cut those laws too yay. uhnope Mar 2014 #6
The United States is the only country where corporations are persons. RC Mar 2014 #7
Let's see them try to put a corporation in prison. thesquanderer Mar 2014 #8
Gohmert go into law school, passed law school, passed the bar, and he was a judge? Botany Mar 2014 #9
So when you interview for a job, catrose Mar 2014 #10
I'm not sure that Louis Gohmert and logic belong in the same sentence The Blue Flower Mar 2014 #11
AMEN Thinkingabout Mar 2014 #27
Bingo!! riversedge Mar 2014 #30
Louie's just showing off Ned Fenwick Mar 2014 #12
I really would love to see a Muslim-owned corporation publically take the position ... brett_jv Mar 2014 #13
I am embarrassed for my state that we have corrupt, Panderers like Louie in office. Dustlawyer Mar 2014 #14
Could he have a more prefect name? JohnRogan Mar 2014 #15
Next time I see Hobby Lobby or McDonald's or Walmart praying in church, then they can have Nanjing to Seoul Mar 2014 #16
It's amazing rickyhall Mar 2014 #17
They just don't get it do they? Initech Mar 2014 #18
Corporations cannot have a religion because they have no soul. They are not human. SunSeeker Mar 2014 #19
I bet if you suggested a corporation was going to heaven he would think you are crazy. Thinkingabout Mar 2014 #28
Indeed. A corporation's only goal is to maximize shareholder wealth. SunSeeker Mar 2014 #29
Gomer should let us know when companies can go to jail Adenoid_Hynkel Mar 2014 #20
Does a company have a soul? eShirl Mar 2014 #22
if corperations are people ? allan01 Mar 2014 #23
How many souls does he think a corporation has? Orsino Mar 2014 #24
Holy shit, I think he's right. John 14:2! Orsino Mar 2014 #25

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
1. Then they should pay the individual income tax rate.
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 07:13 PM
Mar 2014

And all the directors and officers face murder charges if a worker dies on the job. Right?

TexasTowelie

(112,434 posts)
3. If corporations are people,
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 07:14 PM
Mar 2014

then they shouldn't be allowed to sign contracts until they are 18 years old.

That should stop all the talk.

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
4. Time for Alan Grayson to introduce a Corporations are People law
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 07:15 PM
Mar 2014

giving them the same rights and responsibilities as real people.

thesquanderer

(11,992 posts)
8. Let's see them try to put a corporation in prison.
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 07:43 PM
Mar 2014

The punishments for their crimes are always financial... which never comes out of the pockets of the people actually responsible.

I don't support the death penalty for people, but I support it for corporations. BP should have been given a "lethal injection." Liquidated for its assets, with all proceeds going to the victims of disaster they caused.

And then there's the banks...

Botany

(70,584 posts)
9. Gohmert go into law school, passed law school, passed the bar, and he was a judge?
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 07:45 PM
Mar 2014



“And if every one of your directors and officers has the same exact religious beliefs, whether your Amish and have formed a corporation or any other religious group — Quakers or whatever the group is — certainly a corporation can, if they can have intent as the Justice Department repeatedly proves in court, then they can certainly have religious beliefs.”

catrose

(5,073 posts)
10. So when you interview for a job,
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 07:53 PM
Mar 2014

you should ask the corporation's religion? To see if it jibes with your own (or lack thereof)?

Should a corporation have a fixed, immovable religion, or, like people, can it change denominations and beliefs at will?

And, just saying, most religions approve of or require tithing. Will corporations be doing that?

Ned Fenwick

(25 posts)
12. Louie's just showing off
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 08:09 PM
Mar 2014

I know the things these "conservatives" say make them look like corrupt idiots, but they're just preening - showing off for, and currying favor with, the GOP's owners, those brothers, I think of them as the Mr. Potter brothers, you know, from Wichita, originally, dad left them a conglomerate - those brothers. And even before the Mr. Potter Bros. took over, what were these worthless hacks supposed to do besides wax negative against everyone else - the poor, women, greens, minorities, unions, the (former)middle class? You expect them to actually say what they, down deep inside, want? If they did that, really said what they want, there'd be very many fewer of them between both houses of congress. And the rest of us, and the US, would have a future.

brett_jv

(1,245 posts)
13. I really would love to see a Muslim-owned corporation publically take the position ...
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 08:12 PM
Mar 2014

That they do not want to have to pay for any insurance policy that covers: cirrhosis of the liver caused by alcohol, injuries from alcohol-related accidents, any illness that might be associated with consumption of some animal they consider holy (if there is one, I don't know offhand), basically any and all health problems/conditions/injuries that might arise as the result of employees failing to adhere to the Laws spelled out by the Koran and/or Sharia Law.

Then we need a Christian Scientist-owned company to come out and claim complete exemption from covering employees w/insurance that involves doctors or hospitals or medicines or ANYTHING other than 'prayer' to cure what ails you.

These idiots calling for these 'religious exemptions' need to be made to see what an ridiculously slippery-slope situation they are creating by asking for this sort of special treatment. There is absolutely NO END to where this logic can be taken.

Dustlawyer

(10,497 posts)
14. I am embarrassed for my state that we have corrupt, Panderers like Louie in office.
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 08:53 PM
Mar 2014

With the attention on the Governors race we will bring in more Democrats to the polls and hopefully start whittling down the number of dick weeds like Louie.
There is such a thing in corporate law where a corporation can get the "Death Penalty." I don't remember my corporations class from 25 years ago to say what the elements are, but in this day and age, if the Wall Street banks haven't received it yet, no corporation will receive it now.

 

Nanjing to Seoul

(2,088 posts)
16. Next time I see Hobby Lobby or McDonald's or Walmart praying in church, then they can have
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 09:19 PM
Mar 2014

religious beliefs. This assclown redefines stupid.

SunSeeker

(51,705 posts)
19. Corporations cannot have a religion because they have no soul. They are not human.
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 12:11 AM
Mar 2014

Sad that this obvious fact escapes Louie Gohmert and the conservative majority on SCOTUS.

SunSeeker

(51,705 posts)
29. Indeed. A corporation's only goal is to maximize shareholder wealth.
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 12:45 PM
Mar 2014

I can't think of any religion where that is a commandment. In fact, a stance like that guarantees you eternal damnation in Hell under every Judeo-Christian religion I am aware of. As Jesus is quoted as saying, a rich man has as much chance of getting into heaven as a camel passing through the eye of a needle.

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
20. Gomer should let us know when companies can go to jail
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 02:42 AM
Mar 2014

Folks here in WV are still waiting for the perp walk for Massey Energy and Freedom Industries.

eShirl

(18,503 posts)
22. Does a company have a soul?
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 06:04 AM
Mar 2014

waiting for the first rightwing claim that a legal fiction has a soul...


allan01

(1,950 posts)
23. if corperations are people ?
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 09:27 AM
Mar 2014

if there is ever a militarty dradft in this country again, will they have to go to war like the rest of us do ?

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