Waseca teen accused in school shooting plot had been planning for months

[LiberalElite]

Source: Minneapolis Star Tribune

WASECA, MINN. – John David LaDue had it all figured out. He would kill his mother, father and sister and then create a diversion to keep first responders busy while he went to Waseca Junior/Senior High School to wreak havoc.

There, the 17-year-old planned to set off pressure-cooker bombs full of nails and metal ball bearings in the cafeteria. Students who weren’t maimed or killed would be gunned down in the halls, he told police.

After his arrest Tuesday, the high school junior said he intended to kill “as many students as he could,” before he was killed by the SWAT team, according to charging documents filed in Waseca County District Court.

LaDue was charged Thursday with four counts of attempted first-degree murder, two counts of first-degree damage to property and six counts of possession of a bomb by someone under 18.

Read more: http://www.startribune.com/local/257505631.html

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ANOTHER "good kid"....

[Duckhunter935]

1. and bombing plot

but shooting makes the headline

[kelliekat44]

2. Where are the parents? nt

[Turbineguy]

3. Well, at least he did get his name in the news....

[PeoViejo]

4. 15 Minutes of Fame

and a Lifetime of Shame

[truthisfreedom]

5. This story is so weird.

I'm not sure we are safe from our kids anymore. Something seems to have broken.

[sybylla]

17. A handful of troubled teens go off the deep end

and you extrapolate that to "be afraid of children"? I'm not sure what's more insane.

Don't believe me? Substitute any other category of human for "kids" in your sentence and say that out loud.

I'm not sure we are safe from our neighbors anymore.
I'm not sure we are safe from blacks anymore.
I'm not sure we are safe from whites anymore.
I'm not sure we are safe from adults anymore.
I'm not sure we are safe from women anymore.

Go to the library and read some newspapers from the 1800's. People have been whacking out since ever. The "kids these days" BS helps nothing and only labels an entire class of people unfairly.

[SheilaT]

23. Every time someone says that schools used

to be a paradise of safety, I suggest they read Farmer Boy by Laura Ingalls Wilder.

The older boys at school brag that a teacher never completes a term, because they always beat him up and he leaves. Last term they beat the teacher so badly he died.

Yes, humans are collectively and individually violent and dangerous. We've been doing terrible things to each other since the mythical Cain and Abel. Fortunately, only a minority of us are violent and dangerous.

[1StrongBlackMan]

6. Just another "troubled kid" ...

in need of hug therapy ... depending on his parents economic status.

[MillennialDem]

7. I am totally against the death penalty, but this kid needs to be locked up for life. He is a sociopa

th and will never feel remorse for this. I'm not sure if he'll try it again, but he almost certainly will kill someone if let out.

[jwirr]

10. MN does not have the death penalty.

[MillennialDem]

13. I didn't say they did. Nor does my state. It was just a call for life imprisonment from an anti

DPer like myself. IOW a person "soft on crime".

[Lurks Often]

8. And no real warning flags in his behavior based on the article

I wonder if we will ever know why this occurs, is it something biological or some learned behavior

[sybylla]

18. He is at the age for the onset of schizophrenia

If it started with paranoia about the people closest to him, there may not have been anyone close enough to him to see his pain.

[Lurks Often]

22. Possibly, although he does not appear to manifest two of the symptoms:

lack of motivation and disorganized thoughts.

The article certainly makes him sound motivated and the planning that he went into doesn't appear to be that of someone suffering disorganized thoughts.

I'm sure that he'll get a psych eval, but by that time this story will have fallen off the radar.

[Dustlawyer]

9. The observant lady is the real Hero in all of this. If she had brushed it off instead of calling

the police who knows how bad it could have been.

[valerief]

11. It's understandable if he's suffering from affluenza.

[WCLinolVir]

12. Who gets a kid so many weapons????

WTF. This reminds me of the school shooting of the other kid who had lots of guns. And no supervision of their personal life. The facebook page post alluding to guns solving problems. The notebooks, the bombs at home. What kind of mentality are they breeding?? If we do not think it is appropriate for children/teens to drink, and acknowledge their limitations in psycho-social development, why are we giving them guns and expecting a good outcome??

[Paladin]

16. Herter's is based in Waseca. There's no shortage of guns in that town. (nt)

[Tommy_Carcetti]

14. A mishmash between the Sandy Hook and Columbine plots, apparently.

Glad it was staved off.

[Rocknrule]

25. And Boston, judging from the plan to use pressure cookers

[ladjf]

15. I believe that well constructed psych evaluation tests could be administered to all males

in Jr. and Senior High schools once every 24 months that would be able to spot individuals who have ideations of murder.
The tests would need to be subtle enough to flag the potential killers even if the takers were attempting to "fool" the testers.
The process take about 30 minutes every other year.

There could be some unintended negative effects as well. Feel free to chime in your thoughts.

[sybylla]

19. Why males? I have known plenty of sociopathic women

in my time. We used to do hearing and vision tests in schools. Routine confidential mental health checks, whether they are conducted at school or as part of childhood wellness programs might head off problems before they get to this point.

[ladjf]

28. I selected all males because I had never heard of a female that

carried out mass murders. I have heard of females killing one or both parents, sometimes in partnership with another person.

It wouldn't hurt to include them in the test.

[progressoid]

20. Idiot superintendent.

"God was looking out for all of us.”

No, Mr. Lee, it appears that Chelsie Schellhas was looking out for you.

[HughBeaumont]

21. I guess that same God could have snapped their fingers and made John David normal again.

If we're talking about omniscient beings and the fortune they present, that is . . . .

[SheilaT]

24. Comments like that always make me want to ask,

"So why did God turn his back on the kid and adults at Sandy Hook?"

One can only conclude that God is a totally sadistic and amoral bastard who revels in creating havoc and random killing.

I prefer to believe that God is not involved in any of these incidents.

[Rocknrule]

26. Didn't even need to read the article

to know the kid idolized those two Columbine punks.
How come you never hear of any of these guys idolizing Cho or Breivik or Whitman? No, even after all these years it's still all about Columbine Columbine Columbine.

[rocktivity]

27. Not to be confused with the high school shooting plot

in San Antonio Texas (where Michelle Obama is due to visit):
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014790327
http://www.democraticunderground.com/107817531


rocktivity

[VA_Jill]

29. Parental detachment

seems to be a big part of the story with a lot of these kids. Did his parents never go into his room? How did he get the money to buy all this stuff, let alone rent the storage unit? There is something to be said for some parental involvement, aka "nosiness". It's not like you have to snoop in a kid's room, but you should know what your kid is up to at least most of the time!