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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed May 28, 2014, 12:57 PM May 2014

Obama Warns U.S. Must Not Rush to War

Source: Agence France-Presse

President Barack Obama mounted a defiant defense of his global leadership Wednesday, rebuking critics who see him as weak but warning that not every global threat justifies a U.S. military response.

In a major speech at the West Point military academy, Obama denied U.S. power had ebbed under his watch, after he withdrew troops from Iraq and as he does the same in Afghanistan.

He also pledged to ramp up support for Syrian rebels, vowed to stand up to Russia over Ukraine and promised to make drone strikes against terror suspects more transparent.

He vowed to hold China accountable to international "rules of the road" in the South China Sea and elsewhere. "To say that we have an interest in pursuing peace and freedom beyond our borders is not to say that every problem has a military solution," Obama said.

Read more: http://www.naharnet.com/stories/en/132628-obama-warns-u-s-must-not-rush-to-war

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happyslug

(14,779 posts)
3. Remember the old saying "People who talk of NOT going to war, are looking to go to war"
Wed May 28, 2014, 01:23 PM
May 2014

You do NOT talk of something, unless it on your mind.

"But U.S. military action cannot be the only, or even primary, component of our leadership in every instance.

"Just because we have the best hammer does not mean that every problem is a nail," Obama told a graduation ceremony at the college.


Thus the Military option has been discussed and NOT dismissed out of hand. In fact this is much like Woodrow Wilson 1916 Campaign Slogan "He kept Us Out of war". In April 1917, a month after his second inaugural (Remember in 1917 that was March 4th) he had Congress declare War on Germany. Thus just because someone says he oppose war, does not mean we are not heading for War.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,045 posts)
5. Duh, it's on his mind because GOP & Tea relentless criticism, weakening him and US stance.
Wed May 28, 2014, 01:31 PM
May 2014

McCain and many others have been projecting around the world that Obama is weak and unwilling to use the military when it is not true. That is not helpful to the USA.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
8. Did you use your Rand Paul decoder ring to figure that out?
Wed May 28, 2014, 01:51 PM
May 2014

Intelligent people are aware that the President faces propaganda blitzes from the Neocons in the press (Washington Post) and Capitol Hill and the Republican party painting him as weak for not bombing or invading someone.

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
9. OK, so if I say to you "Don't think of pink elephants"
Wed May 28, 2014, 01:54 PM
May 2014

what's the first thing you think of?

Seriously, Wilson and FDR had actual world wars going on during their reelection campaigns. How is this remotely the same?

Progressive dog

(6,920 posts)
11. Of course a leader of the nation with the
Wed May 28, 2014, 02:17 PM
May 2014

world's most expensive military would never talk at that nation's premier military academy, to a class of graduating military officers, about how that military might or might not be used.
Yeah, I'll bet it might be on his mind.

nyabingi

(1,145 posts)
4. How can Obama say he's not rushing to war...
Wed May 28, 2014, 01:26 PM
May 2014

...when there are warships and troops in the Black Sea and off the coast of Libya in order to intimidate (oops, I mean to ensure the peace) the Russians and try to clean up the mess he made in Libya. Now he's training al-Qa'ida jihadists from around the world (except for the ones in Yemen and Pakistan, whom he has droned to death) to fight in Syria and trying his best to appear menacing to the Chinese.

The Republicans should be applauding Obama's belligerence, and if not for domestic politics, they would be.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
6. Cheer up:
Wed May 28, 2014, 01:43 PM
May 2014
Doyle is one of the guys I read to find out what the government wants me to think. The government does not speak with one voice, mind you, but somebody wants to ramp things down, and I suspect Obama is one of them.

Vladimir Putin, master player

Let us now praise Vladimir Putin.

Yes, Russia's president is a cold-hearted autocrat. And yes, he rules through a network of nasty oligarchs bent on squeezing profit from their country's oil riches. If he covets a piece of territory, he's liable to try to grab it.

But he's not a madman. Putin has played an old-fashioned game of international brinkmanship masterfully — and so far, he's coming out ahead.

The Russian president took Ukraine to the brink of war, but then, remarkably, he backed off.

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-mcmanus-putin-ukraine-20140528-column.html#navtype=outfit

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
7. And this too:
Wed May 28, 2014, 01:45 PM
May 2014
Syria: With Enemies Like This, Who Needs Allies?

May 28, 2014: In the east (near the Iraq border) al Nusra and ISIL (Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant) continue to fight each other with ISIL often getting the worst of it. This is despite the fact that ISIL has plenty of armed men just across the border in Iraq and in the city of Raqqa to the west. But in Western Iraq (Anbar province) ISIL is struggling to deal with increased pressure from government forces and pro-government tribal militias. ISIL forces are trapped in Fallujah, with the siege of the Islamic terrorists growing tighter and tighter. To the west ISIL is trying to establish a road connection between Anbar and Syria, where it controls Raqqa, the largest city in eastern Syria and the only provincial capital to be captured by the rebels. The revived (by Iranian Shia mercenaries recruited in Lebanon and Iraq) Syrian government is turning its attention to its Sunni eastern areas and the Shia dominated Iraqi government is increasingly aggressive attacking ISIL on both sides of the Syrian border. Both Iraq and Syria believe that ISIL is intent on creating a Sunni religious dictatorship out of eastern Syria and western Iraq. This is a largely desert and thinly populated region. ISIL is actually suffering more casualties in Syria, where its main foe is other rebels, especially large Islamic terrorist groups like al Nusra.

In the south (near the Jordanian border) Al Nusra and FSA units are increasingly hostile with each other. FSA is already at war with ISIL (as is al Nusra) and now there is the prospect of open fighting between FSA and al Nusra. There is also growing hostility between all Islamic terrorist rebel groups. It’s the same old story; every Islamic terrorist group believes its way is the true way. When you are on a Mission From God you tend to believe that your way is the only way. This splintering is old news among Islamic radical groups and no one has ever found an easy way around it. Thus despite there being over 100,000 armed rebels in Syria, the many divisions and growing infighting among the rebels is greatly weakening rebel combat capability. The fact that there are up to a thousand different rebel groups does not help either. As a result many rebel groups, in particular the FSA, are reporting growing desertions and more difficulty in recruiting. It’s believed that currently more rebels are dying each week at the hands of other rebels than in fighting with government forces. The government has over 300,000 troops and militiamen and their forces are much more disciplined and united. Assad and Iranian officials increasingly speak openly of eventual victory and this is no longer a fantasy.

In the northwest (Idlib province, where the Lebanese and Turkish borders meet) rebels continue to advance. This is in contrast to the setbacks the rebels are suffering elsewhere. In part this is because the government is concentrating on clearing the rebels away from Damascus and out of Aleppo. Once that is done, the Assads will march on Idlib. Currently ISIL is not very active in Idlib and al Nusra and secular rebels tend to get along there. Thus the government forces are on the defensive.

http://www.strategypage.com/qnd/syria/articles/20140528.aspx

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
10. Wasn't Obama...
Wed May 28, 2014, 02:05 PM
May 2014

awarded the Nobel Peace Prize several years ago?

Sooner or later, he ought to earn it.

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