'Resist urge to control e-cigarettes', WHO told
Source: BBC
A letter signed by more than 50 researchers and public health specialists is urging the World Health Organization (WHO) to "resist the urge to control and suppress e-cigarettes".
The letter says the devices - which deliver nicotine in a vapour - could be a "significant health innovation".
But the UK's Faculty of Public Health says it is too early to know whether benefits outweigh potential risks.
The WHO said it was still deciding what recommendations to make to governments.
The open letter has been organised in the run-up to significant international negotiations on tobacco policy this year.
Supporters of e-cigarettes, who argue the products are a low-risk substitute for smoking, fear they might become subject to reduction targets and advertising bans.
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As in, you can only use these nicotine delivery devices where you can smoke.
I just had to add the spokesmodel for these things...
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I know how much nicotine I was taking in vaping, it should have easily killed any withdrawal craving since it was slightly higher than what I got smoking. That's after accounting for inefficiencies and whatnot.
Instead, I'd get this intolerable itch every three hours...then four...then eight...and so on to have a cigarette.
Finally, after two months or so it faded off.
Interestingly, post quitting my mood stabilizers needed adjustment, I went into a mild depression. Fortunately, I knew what it was, and called instantly.
So, is there something else in there? I'm saying yes, but only a spectrometer could say for sure. 
Back pain, shoulder pain, reflux, brain fog etc. It's all making sense now. Lots of people I talk to are experiencing the exact same symptoms and are baffled. Doctors say tobacco addiction passes after the first 2 weeks. It obviously doesn't, they are wrong and should not be giving incorrect advice.
IMO cigarettes need to be re-regulated. We need to know EVERY single chemical they add to the tobacco, and precisely why they are added. No excuses.
Anyway I know I can get past this little hump, so I'm not worried about starting again.
I know three people who have successfully quit smoking. Sorry I do not know exactly what they used but it was indeed a simple vapor system. Two are very happy, one is still a bit of a grouch about it.
years, 1-2 packs a day. Tried Chantix (my guns have never been cleaner), patch, gum, stupid support phone calls from the quit smoking people, etc.
Still smoked.
(Make a note that ebay can be your friend here. Vaping (tell you in a minute) is something that is unique to the individual and you will find yourself buying 2 or three pipes and several batteries, but you may try 5 or 6 different kinds of e-juice before you find one you like - be patient and just chalk it up to tuition for learning something new that may save your life. <G> Good investment, I think).
(And, btw, if you go to youtube and search for reviews by
Last year thought to try e-cigs instead because of the immediate cessation of tars, etc. Tried two or three, didn't do much for me, so I bought an ego-c here:
https://www.cignot.com/product_p/kit-egc-all.htm (I would email and ask Vicki what she can tell you if you buy from here).
But I continued to smoke cigarettes. Then I went into this store
http://www.besteciggy.com/
and the woman said the reason I was still smoking was probably because the nicotine wasn't high enough. She sold me a bottle of their 36 mg nicotine. (I had been using 0, 12, and 24). Completely unintentionally somewhere over the next few hours I sat my cigarette pack down, and it was a week before I even thought to pick it up again. I literally forgot them without even trying.
(Note - in experiments where they measure the air exhaled by smokers, even with the higher nicotine it is still often 10x less than that from the output of a tobacco cig, so when you see those numbers know that nicotine is absorbed from pipes in a different way, so those numbers don't mean the same when applied to tobacco cigs.
I had not been without my cigs in 42 years. Since then I have not touched an analog cigarette (what vapers call tobacco cigarettes) since last year.
"Vapers" are a little different from e-cig smokers.
E-cigs are typically a commercial product with sometimes known, sometimes unknown ingredients, usually used up and thrown away. They often look like real cigarettes, but too long, and with lights on the end.
"Vaping" usually uses a "vaping pipe" or "e-hookah".
The vaping pipe:
They consist of a battery, (the long black part with a power button), the atomizer or cartomizer that holds the fluid, and a tip. The atomizer inside has a replaceable element, varies in price, from less than a buck to $5 depending on what you have. They last for a few days, a week or two - this is highly dependent on your vaping and what kind of fluids you use - darker ones will coat the coil and plug the thing, so you have to throw in a new coil more often. Some can be rebuilt with ordinary organic cotton and "kanthal" wire from ebay, another way to save on this.
The advantage of a vaping pipe is that you can fill it with your own fluid so you know what you have.
The fluid: - Most consist of
vegetable glycerin - kinda like refined vegetable oil,
propylene glycol - This is essentially the same as "pet safe anti-freeze" - it, btw, is in thousands of products, including many kinds of makeup. Most cars come with ethylene glycol-based anti-freeze, which is the kind that kills animals when they drink it. "Propylene" is generally considered safe, so much so that when you have a colonoscopy the doctor may well prescribe it for you to drink instead of food. Oh joy.
Flavoring/perfume - Usually an alchohol-based scent, from a place like "Perfumers Apprentice"
nicotine - varying strengths. I mentioned that I quit smoking when I got my first bottle of the 36mg. About the time I went to look for my second bottle I found I was able to reduce the nicotine, and went to a 24 mg. Now I am using 6 and 8mg, and probably will do away with nicotine completely one of these days, though I suspect I will keep using the pipe for a while. (It has been months since I touched a tobacco cig, but after 42 years there are still some triggers that exist, and I will find myself reaching in my pocket for them (talk about part of you). Then I get my vaping pipe, and that's over.
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Now, all that said, I don't recommend e-cigs to anyone because ex-smokers need the flexibility of a vaping pipe.
And know up front that you will spend more than you think, but far less than analog cigs in the long run. When I quit it wasn't unusual to see cigs at $9/pack, so about $75 week or $300/mo.
(This is like anything new - you HAVE to try it to learn how it fits with you, so you will likely make some purchase that later you will find laying around as they are replaced with other things. No big deal - remember - this is to keep you from dying early. Sounds cheaper already, doesn't it? You could easily spend $100 to $200 the first month, but after that it could easily drop to $30 or $40 total, and that is if you don't blend your own e-juice or rebuild your elements, which could take the cost under $10 a month.)
All that said, my journey...after the e-cigs I first bought an Ego-C kit, which gave me two complete pipes, batteries, charger for about $70 or so. I bought it because it was all black and unobtrusive, but it turned out to be a good first purchase. At first it is clumsy using one of these, but easy to learn to use, just stay with it.
Replacing the elements, however was $5 a pop. So I started looking at ebay, and found Vapingtown.
I bought a Mini-Protank 2 and the batteries from my Ego-C fit (510 thread - just remember it). The elements for this are less than $2.
But the batteries, 650 ma, 900 ma, and 1400 ma only last for a few hours and then have to be recharged. You wind up with a pocket full of $20 batteries so you aren't caught without them.
The solution for that is to get a "mod", one of those big handle-looking things that hold a big battery, and also usually have some kind of LED display which shows you the volts and amps on the battery, and the resistance of your coil - that last one is very handy for rebuilders.
I told you before I bought a Mini Protank 2 (I like the smaller tanks so I can fiddle with my fluids for taste - some people like larger ones). Anyway, the threads on the Kager Pro Tanks fit these "handles" or mods - 520 thread. So I bought an Itazte MVP 2.0. The batteries in that last for days. <-- $40 at Vapingtown (link above) so about the cost of two of the smaller batteries, but it lasts much longer and gives a much better result, imvo. (in my vaper's opinion).
Here is a tutorial video about mods, and there are others in the right column - you should watch a selection for best results. (Some of those people are really entertaining. And some aren't 
Some people like the "handle" style, but it's just a different shape:
My favorite juices so far: (I have at least half a dozen vials that I don't like, but you can mix a little of them with others and use them up that way (I'm just hate waste)
Bananna Nut Bread - Cyber brand, but sold at a local store http://www.sublime-vapor.com/
Orange cream at http://www.vaporlounge.com/
Pure USP VG and Distilled Water 15ml (ECOmix) with mixing bottle - https://www.cignot.com/product_p/liq-vgh-15m.htm
(I use this VG/Water mix to dilute juice if it is too strong, or when empty I use a few puffs of this to clean the tank before I start with a new flavor)
I no longer vape it, but the 36mg juice from bestciggys, link above, is what got me off the cigs to start with.
So, I have rambled enough, but you should know this little study of mine is a work in progress, so I have more to learn too. I need coffee.
Anyone have questions? Jeers? Want to throw a shoe?
I've ever had the pleasure to be part and parcel of, actually.
There are used car salespeople, but between youtube and the others you will meet and talk to, for whom this is a mission, as well as this being such a personal experience, they have less influence than people might think
You will be surprised the first time you smell someone who is still smoking analog cigarettes. You should come back and tell us about it.
and still vaping. I phased out slowly, over the course of a year (vaping while reducing # of cigs/day) after smoking 2 packs a day for 30 years before then.
Per what others posted, when you first start off, go for the bigger batts like the eGo or equivalent (and even consider mods as you get adjusted) in order to get a sensation closer to that of smoking...but also make sure you drink plenty of water during the day while vaping as it can dry you out.
Good luck! 
1) This isn't a study. It is just an article. This guy didn't test anything.
2) "Funding for this work was provided by The Consumer Advocates for Smoke-free Alternatives Association (CASAA)
Research Fund"
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