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alp227

(32,027 posts)
Thu May 29, 2014, 06:27 PM May 2014

Cover Oregon: Kitzhaber says it's time to sue Oracle for health exchange disaster

Source: The Oregonian

Oregon's long-simmering feud with Oracle Corp. is about to break out into open warfare.

Gov. John Kitzhaber has asked Attorney General Ellen Rosenblum to initiate legal action against the giant information technology company for its central role in the state's bungled effort to build a health insurance exchange. The state has paid Oracle well over $130 million for the exchange, which never operated as intended.

"There is ample cause there to file a lawsuit," Kitzhaber said. "We were not delivered a product that worked and we certainly weren't delivered a product on time."

Kitzhaber also reached out to officials in Washington, D.C. asking them to act against Oracle. In a May 29 letter, he asked the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services to "levy the appropriate fines and penalties" against the company. He also asked Oregon's two U.S. senators, Ron Wyden and Jeff Merkley to use their clout against Oracle.

Read more: http://www.oregonlive.com/health/index.ssf/2014/05/cover_oregon_kitzhaber_says_it.html



Meanwhile, Portland TV station KATU (pronounced K-Two, since it's channel 2) had a Bill O'Reilly-style ambushing of the Guv last week regarding Cover Oregon.
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Cover Oregon: Kitzhaber says it's time to sue Oracle for health exchange disaster (Original Post) alp227 May 2014 OP
Oracle CEO? billhicks76 May 2014 #1
Oracle is the company that owns defacto7 May 2014 #4
Larry Ellison's Oracle? billhicks76 May 2014 #5
Yep defacto7 May 2014 #6
Oracle bought out Sun Microsystems long ago. That is how they got java and solaris olddad56 May 2014 #8
Yep but not that long ago. defacto7 May 2014 #15
neither was I olddad56 May 2014 #16
Uhhhhhhhh....DUH! SoapBox May 2014 #2
This is the one thing I'm worried about in terms of the governor's race here in Oregon davidpdx May 2014 #3
Oracle has blown so many large projects in the public sector that this one is small potatoes.. olddad56 May 2014 #9
Agree, money on Oracle. defacto7 May 2014 #14
Oracle is a major software company. defacto7 May 2014 #10
That is bad news davidpdx May 2014 #17
Just a little more to add depth for those interested... jtuck004 May 2014 #7
Good point of view. defacto7 May 2014 #12
there is a book entitled "The Difference Between God and Larry Ellison". olddad56 May 2014 #11
Hear, Hear! defacto7 May 2014 #13
Do it! Do it! sinkingfeeling May 2014 #18

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
4. Oracle is the company that owns
Thu May 29, 2014, 09:10 PM
May 2014

Java. They bought out several open source groups and turned them into non-free versions. I think they are the company that bought out OpenOffice. I changed to LibreOffice anyway. They also own the Solaris operating system.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
15. Yep but not that long ago.
Fri May 30, 2014, 01:21 AM
May 2014

The buyout concluded in 2010.

on edit: contract signed April 2009 - concluded transaction Jan. 2010.

I remember, I was not happy about it at all.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
3. This is the one thing I'm worried about in terms of the governor's race here in Oregon
Thu May 29, 2014, 09:08 PM
May 2014

The governor needs to come up with a better explanation of what happened. Oracle may have done a crappy job, but in the end him blaming Oracle and Oracle blaming him is not going to wash really well. I sure as hell don't want Urination Richardson for governor.

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
9. Oracle has blown so many large projects in the public sector that this one is small potatoes..
Fri May 30, 2014, 01:00 AM
May 2014

for Oracle. Oracle consulting services does not have a good reputation in the public sector. But what they do have are attorneys that are sharp and write ironclad contracts. If the state of Oregon sues Oracle, I will put my money on Oracle prevailing.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
14. Agree, money on Oracle.
Fri May 30, 2014, 01:17 AM
May 2014

It's the game and Oregon is a lucrative target. Lawyers and Ellison are the only players and they don't even need to know how to turn the computer on.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
10. Oracle is a major software company.
Fri May 30, 2014, 01:01 AM
May 2014

along with Larry Ellison.

I would have to conclude (subjectively) that Oracle purposefully undermined the project. They couldn't possibly have been that bad at writing script. More likely Ellison has an ax to grind with Oregon. I wouldn't doubt the likes of him would be happy to have a suit for the publicity of a corporation taking on a state.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
12. Good point of view.
Fri May 30, 2014, 01:13 AM
May 2014

A little stabilizing of blame throwing may be in order including mine above. But it ceases to amaze me how a corporate project could go so awry considering Oracle's resources? How could a state take technical charge of anything of that magnitude without technical resources to match? Why would a company like Oracle want to let this project slide?

Dunno.

I'll be reticent, reticent I say!

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
11. there is a book entitled "The Difference Between God and Larry Ellison".
Fri May 30, 2014, 01:03 AM
May 2014

I would recommend any CEO of any company read that book before entering into a long term contract with the Oracle Corporation.

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